MMM findings

[BerenTebogo]

Asked in RQT but I doubt I'll get a good answer. This is current MMJ ear / koggel setup. 0/85 or more now since last drop of any kind (and last drop was on different maze)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...304_234249.jpg

PLEASE tell me what is wrong, if anything, or if I'm just having shitfuck luck.

[Windfoxster]

Asked in RQT but I doubt I'll get a good answer. This is current MMJ ear / koggel setup. 0/85 or more now since last drop of any kind (and last drop was on different maze)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...304_234249.jpg

PLEASE tell me what is wrong, if anything, or if I'm just having shitfuck luck.

Not a MMM pro but should have enough knowledge for this maze though. Are you resonating Great Warrior and Stillness?You can try my setup instead, just noticed L&F is rune 94 not 95. About 1/10 drop rate on either earring or sword.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/sho...postcount=2083

Edit: Went to wiki those runes, it seems you are putting the runes randomly on the tabula.

[BerenTebogo]

What should touching what? It isn't my maze, it's that Darth guys' so if you can be specific so I can be specific to him that'd help a ton.

Edit:

Lizard is | in upper left and square below it
Dark Magic is --- top row
Elemental magic is --- below Dark Magic
L&F is + in bottom right
Might is | in lower left
Great Warrior is _ in bottom row in between might and bottom of L&F

[Windfoxster]

What should touching what? It isn't my maze, it's that Darth guys' so if you can be specific so I can be specific to him that'd help a ton.

Edit:

Lizard is | in upper left and square below it
Dark Magic is --- top row
Elemental magic is --- below Dark Magic
L&F is + in bottom right
Might is | in lower left
Great Warrior is _ in bottom row in between might and bottom of L&F

You saw those element icon on the tabula? Your Great Warrior (Earth) has to be placed onto the earth icon and you will see that rune vibrating. Stillness, you place it on top of the water icon.

[BerenTebogo]

Doesn't have stillness in the maze as of now, are you telling me I just wasted like 4 weeks worth of runs?

[Windfoxster]

Doesn't have stillness in the maze as of now, are you telling me I just wasted like 4 weeks worth of runs?

Sadly yes unless someone can confirm otherwise. I only do MMM for 2weeks+ with the maze i have for the earring and i never touch MMM ever since, so i can't really say for sure. It seems that stillness is important and you have to resonate the runes too

[BerenTebogo]

God dammit

[Windfoxster]

Went to search my screenshots and found this, might be useful

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...oxster/MMM.png

This is the maze i use.

Maze Voucher 07
Rune 005 - Lizard
Rune 013 - Great Warrior
Rune 016 - Stillness
Rune 017 - Supreme Might
Rune 018 - Might
Rune 054 - Black Mage
Rune 094 - Lost & Found

[BerenTebogo]

I refuse to use supreme might because it becomes SUPER gay and I like to trio it.

[Windfoxster]

I refuse to use supreme might because it becomes SUPER gay and I like to trio it.

But i think the key is your lack of Stillness rune. You need to have it in your tabula, be it resonate or not. If you don't resonate stillness, then you can't get MJ earring but you can still get kogg as long you resonate your Great warrior. Without stillness, you can get neither.

[Arcanesoul]

But i think the key is your lack of Stillness rune. You need to have it in your tabula, be it resonate or not. If you don't resonate stillness, then you can't get MJ earring but you can still get kogg as long you resonate your Great warrior. Without stillness, you can get neither.

You just need stillness on the tabula somewhere to get the Mamool Ja Earring. You only need Great warrior to get Koggelmander (that is, Koggelmander should still drop regardless of having stillness on).
The table under liquidation team on FFXIclopedia is correct, so you have a choice of Lizard + stillness for Rahu, Lizard + tiny warrior + stillness for Tatzelwurm, and Lizard + great warrior + stillness for Taniwha, of which all 3 layouts should drop Mamool Ja Earring, and the last two dropping Mamool Ja Mantle, and Koggelmander respectively.

Resonating the runes is supposed to increase the runes effect theoretically making the maze harder and supposedly upping the drop rate.

As for what runes should touch what, I have no idea if that even has an effect. I've looked through all the maze setups posted in this thread to see if has an effect, and I've not really seen any correlation, but then not many have posted their layouts either, and there's no discerning chance from drop rate either since people won't farm after they have it.

Out of curiosity have you seen koggelmander at all from it? I've been using that exact rune set last year to try and get it and I've never seen Koggelmander drop in any of my mazes.

Edit. When you add stillness to Darth's current maze setup, it's defense will shoot up, and will get the Nightmare Bugard moves (aoe stun, aweful eye petrification + hate reset, Tusk with knockback, etc), which will make trioing harder. I tried Nightmare Tanihwa (Lizard, Lost + Found, Great Warrior (res), Stillness (res), Elemental magic (res), and Dark Magic) the other day without SM, or M on it with 4 people (whm/blm, sam/nin, dnc/nin, blu/nin) and it was still relatively hard (we're not decked out either by any sense too, but gear is ok). The sam got killed a few times because he's not used to tanking on sam at all. I was hitting for 0's a lot when it used Scutum, and Blank Gaze was resisted any time I tried to dispel it (not sure how Geist wall works, but might work better since Dispel has never been resisted). Blank Gaze did get rid of dread spikes though which I found a little odd.

I also tried soloing Taniwha (no stillness) with Peon and Weakness on Sch/rdm and promptly got my ass handed to me because gravity, bind, and sleep were all resisted, and it still hit to hard for phalanx and stoneskin to handle, with cheviot (hit during daytime), Patronus, and Terra's staff on.

[BerenTebogo]

We have been doing either RDM + BLU + BLU or RDM + Brovura + BLU and sometimes SAM/DNC thrown in and sometimes we get a WHM.

SAM/NIN + Bravura + BLU/NIN + WHM + RDM might be better to try stillness first time, I'll look into it.

[Gergall]

Can anyone confirm if this is a good XP maze, or if something can be improved?

Tabula M02
003 Bird
014 Tiny (Resonated)
017 SM
018 M
102 Numbers
108 Conditioning

Depending on how I arrange the runes, I can add in either 100 (Velocity, no real benefit to XP but it doesn't hurt) or even 099 (Replenishment, causes more Forcers to appear, mages can break these open for meds).

Am I missing anything?

[Karbuncle]

IF you're putting M/SM on any exp party before level 55/60 is going to be forced to unsync with even the slightest thing going wrong.

SM would probably be best, especially if you're doing a low level (20~40) PL maze.

But if you're above 55/60 or have a rather solid set up thats great

[Amok]

A few questions:
Does resonating Tiny Warrior still (on occasion) give you Cockatrice or Greater Birds when combo'd with Bird rune? I can't confirm atm, but I believe the replicated tabula we used for exp had this happen a few times.

Can you get two chambers with the same mob family?

If so, does adding an Aquan and/or Demon rune to your Tiny Warrior tabula give you a smaller chance at getting larger/undesirable?

[Karbuncle]

A few questions:
Does resonating Tiny Warrior still (on occasion) give you Cockatrice or Greater Birds when combo'd with Bird rune? I can't confirm atm, but I believe the replicated tabula we used for exp had this happen a few times.

Can you get two chambers with the same mob family?

If so, does adding an Aquan and/or Demon rune to your Tiny Warrior tabula give you a smaller chance at getting larger/undesirable?

Large mobs can still appear with Tiny Warrior, Resonating or not... of which are for birds are Cockatrice, Rocs, and Hippogryphs.

You can get 2 of the same Family yes, like for instance Bat > Vulture > Bat is possible... i've never seen a triplicate.

Adding more families will increases the likelihood of getting Small enemies but only because you'd have more to choose from, and in the same way you'd have a more Large mobs as well, so it'd still boil down to luck except now you'd have Krakens and Minotaurs to choose from as well

[Gergall]

IF you're putting M/SM on any exp party before level 55/60 is going to be forced to unsync with even the slightest thing going wrong.

SM would probably be best, especially if you're doing a low level (20~40) PL maze.

But if you're above 55/60 or have a rather solid set up thats great

Sorry, what I meant to ask is if the maze I posted is good for merits.

Any comments?

[Karbuncle]

Sorry, what I meant to ask is if the maze I posted is good for merits.

Any comments?

Thats pretty much the nail on the head for Merits

[Fisban]

A couple of my friends and I have been messing around and trying to get a good exp rune for leveling our subjobs to 50. Our setup last night was DRG, WAR, WAR, BRD, RDM, and PL

What would be a good rune combo for 37-50?

Thanks!

[Katoke]

A couple of my friends and I have been messing around and trying to get a good exp rune for leveling our subjobs to 50. Our setup last night was DRG, WAR, WAR, BRD, RDM, and PL

What would be a good rune combo for 37-50?

Thanks!

Someone on your server should have the standard weak to piercing maze copiable, it's under Alpha Team Sanitization or what have you, should be the one with the most popularity. Will earn you 6k+ a run, which should level you up about each run.

Not sure if there is anything that is 'better' for exp though.