MMM findings

[Hyan]

Maybe it was just signet kicking in though

[BRP]

Is there any way to expand the soundtrack?

[Valkrish]

i'm curious about expanding the soundtrack, its all fun and great that one person always picks "Fishing" everytime but c'mon

any other choices than 'free' soundtracks?

[Rik]

Liquidation voucher + supreme might rune + vermin rune spawned a spider nm, high defense and high attack, hit for about 300ish on a pld, I got oneshotted from a 1900+ sickle slash. The fight lasted for about 10-15mins with a couple of deaths, got 12 marbles and 200 limit from chest.

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[Kaslo]

i find it unlikely that the crit-family weapons (koggelmander, etc.) come from MMM... it's possible, but keep in mind that those are fairly good pieces... and the dev in charge has stated repeatedly that the goal was not to grant useful or endgame gear, but useless town gear...

None of the gear is outstanding enough to be endgame gear. Also, where all would it come from if not MMM. Also, SE said we could get stuff from completing the mazes not just from using our marbles.

[Jkun]

I'm guessing purchasing titles might unlock soundtracks that in turn will cost marbles to set. Since the current list has (Free) next to it, any more will be nothing but a scam! :/

[BRP]

Unfortunately it seems harder monsters might be only for the challenge. Could have at least reward more marbles.

[Jingseng]

None of the gear is outstanding enough to be endgame gear. Also, where all would it come from if not MMM. Also, SE said we could get stuff from completing the mazes not just from using our marbles.

swarm, or even somewhere else. it may not even be implemented yet.

I certainly can't agree that none of the gear is outstanding... Koggelmander is considered hands down to be the best sword available for blu (short of perhaps mythic, but that' debatable these days). I doubt most of the jobs that can wield it and DO use swords would say no to str+4 and dex+4, even for off hand.

As for the others, not entirely stellar, but not necessarily out either. Zaide has a very high base damage...1 less than thalassocrat. Makes it a viable alternative for drg's too cheap to farm for gil, etc. Also makes it viable for drakesbane if you happen to know you will be fighting beasts for a while.

Compare that with the gear available at the outset from M3: Lv1 eyepatch with chr+1 and lv1 shoes with eva+1. This is what they mean by unique, neat looking gear, but not useful (it's possible there might be hidden effects, particularly while under a m3 title and/or within m3... even so...) (keep in mind that the weapons in question are lv72 and not equippable by all... as opposed to lv1, all jobs... difficult for everyone to enjoy gear that requires a job at lv72)

Kind of a gulf of difference. I'd hardly put str+4 dex+4 or atk+8 or eva+8 or str+3 atk+8 in the same class. Not even the weaker gear now known to be available from caskets are of the type from m3... even their low utility is too useful.

So to me, the chance that it comes from m3 strikes me as being very low. It's possible, but I think highly unlikely. I think you can find just as tenuous a link to swarm as is put forth for m3. Swarm is a pest infestation... and the weapons involve beast, vermin, lizard, and plants... all things which can be considered pests (rats, roaches, snakes, and weeds). Since you are tasked with killing large numbers of weak mobs in a few families, the reward would directly would flow from the activity and benefit future attempts.

I think it's simply a case that someone first said "zomg m3 lets you set mob families... those weapons have mobs on them... MUST BE M3" (btw, you can set far more families than those weapons involve... so explain that inconsistency...) particularly because we all seem to feel that an activity must have a substantial reward. SE devs have flat out said that isn't true in this case. It's not as though pankration (ha guyz! that involves selecting mob from family too!) has some kind of reward (on a similar level of substantiality) for a large number of wins... or for winning king of the hill... etc.

[GaelWanderling]

I see jingseng mention the swarm a few times as a possibility but isn't it just a Fanfest BC? none of the fanfest BCs have any sort of reward besides a title and a fun fight so i believe this crit weapons simply have not been implemented.

[Altanass]

lol it really sucks that you can only make one maze a day x_x

i need 15,000 more marbles to buy all the runes available from the npc ;_;

[Alistaire]

Maybe it was just signet kicking in though

Yes, and "outside nation's areas" items work here too.

[Kaslo]

Wall of Argument

Except here is some things, the items you listed (eyepatch and shoes) are things that can be purchased with marbles which is totally different.

Second, the Boss mobs are the only set that don't adjust to the level of the lowest level party member. Meaning it needs a party of 70+ characters, which seems to say to me that there can be a greater reward from that, like really really rare gear/weapon drops. I just don't want us to dismiss the possibility that stuff drops from these just because 3-5 runs have yielded nothing.

As has been stated Swarm is the fanfest BC which generally doesn't involve rewards like this.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Also, the weapons, in a sense, don't look that great. Koggelmander has what BLUs want, but STR+4 DEX+4 isn't worth it for any other job. It's the kind of thing that has the right stats in the right place but isn't largely impressive. They make sense in a more "Casual" event like this.

[Altanass]

leader just used voucher 7 with one starter rune, brought us to NM ventus (air elemental), easy enough fight, chest had nothing in it except 200xp and 10 marbles -_-

[Finea]

Okay, been doing MMM a lot over the last few days (10+, maybe lot "a lot", hah). But, went to my Mog House today, checked the D.box... wait... what? No, seriously, what?

That's the MMM NPC's name, Goldagrix. This has got me and my friends seriously stumped.

No, not called a GM or what-not, yet, at least - Friends have suggested that though. Figured I'd throw it up here, been reading the MMM thread since it got posted, yet to see anything like this though...

[Septimus]

Okay, been doing MMM a lot over the last few days (10+, maybe lot "a lot", hah). But, went to my Mog House today, checked the D.box... wait... what? No, seriously, what?

That's the MMM NPC's name, Goldagrix. This has got me and my friends seriously stumped.

No, not called a GM or what-not, yet, at least - Friends have suggested that though. Figured I'd throw it up here, been reading the MMM thread since it got posted, yet to see anything like this though...

FINAL FANTASY XI Official Web Site

This is a fix to when the goblins were stealing everyone's gil. This is how much you were overcharged when you did it on the first day.

[Finea]

Hah~ No way. I never noticed any gil go down, well, that solves that - Serves me right for never reading the official page :3

Cheers~ <3

[Khiinroye]

Mobs don't scale on materialization. Went with 3, failed first group synth, suceeded 2nd...then needed 2 more of the cloth and 3 other crafted things, resulting in failure.

Mobs take about 2 T4 nukes to kill, but we were getting the items we were actually short on about every other kill.

[HarleyM]

For the people saying mobs dont scale in materialization/liquidation...do you mean to the lowest member (because that was established yesterday) or at all? I'm inclined to think if the highest member was 50, they would scale to a level 50 party (as i believe all are meant to... the moblin in the junk shop says they scale to the highest member)

[el_tio]

People seem a lot more concerned about getting money in their d.box than they should lol. Just take it and don't say anything D:

So MMM findings--bought aquan to try with voucher 7 since dragons didn't work. Aquan didn't either. Ugh I just want a Mega Boss run without elementals, but I hear lizard will work so maybe I'll save for that.

Did Supreme Might with Aquans and Dragons on it, normal tabula. The mobs were all VT (lowest member 75), only gave around 90 xp each. Seemed like they were higher level than the xp they gave, seems this way for all maps. Aquans dragons disappointingly gave only dragons, so I guess it randomly selects between the two. Run gave 1900 xp when popped, very nice.

Haven't seen any dragon runs with anything except Dahak and Wivre. I guess wyrms would be overkill tho lol.

Bought a new tabula since I understand putting runes on the elemental squares affects them. Going to test Supreme Might on an elemental square to see if it makes them harder.