MMM findings

[Suiram]

On the other hand there's 2 weapons per killer effect, so Great Warrior could possible make it the one it's strong against, and tiny warrior makes it drop the one it's weak against.

I had a different, but related, thought. There are probably 16 items that drop from these, as has been discussed already, two weapons and two armors of each mob family. There are four similar 300 marble runes, each with the description "The maze will be populated with _____ foes," Great Warrior, Tiny Warrior, Motion, and Stillness. Perhaps each weapon/armor drop is linked to a specific class+population rune combination? For instance, Beast + Great Warrior would then be Ermine's Tail. Maybe Beast + Tiny Warrior would be Scheherazade, and Beast + Motion/Stillness would be Gnole or Mamool armor? This is in addition to Lost and Found which is probably required, and maybe Supreme Might or something is required, too.

[Kaylia]

Started doing this today, and I've a few questions. I'm sure I could find the answers to most of those if I look around and read every threads, but meh.


#1 Anyone figured the elemental effect when you use a matching rune?

#2 Is there any penalty when you add a rune to your maze (ie: supply gob, pearl one)? Or the only drawback is the space taken on the board?

#3 What's the effect on xp/marbles when you add something negative (ie: amnesia). Is the bonus worthwhile?

#4 Is there any way to store tabula, dont want to carry 2-3 around? And do I have to use rune only once for all tabula, or I need to reuse for each?

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#5 How the skill up works in crafting maze? is it a reward at the end, or it's a normal and rare skillup while you're crafting?

[Suiram]

#2: Some runes have a marble penalty, but I don't believe either of those do (aside from taking up space).

#3: Not sure on exact bonus, but it seems worthwhile if you are farming marbles. You can usually do Budget without any issues, and Velocity can't hurt if you can fit it. The others I guess it depends. Have done some V04s with Amnesia just because WSs aren't missed that much in that one with BLUs. Or you can stack them all and do V01 runs with Lv1s.

#4: If you get the other two tabulas, I think they take up inventory spaces individually. I'm told that using a rune or voucher once makes them usable in all of them, both by a poster here, and by someone in game I've been mongering with who has them all.

#5: Nobody knows how to get skillups yet, if it's even current content and not just future plans for the event. Maybe the conditioning rune?

[urat]

#1: Appears to double the effect of said rune.

IE putting the dexterity (dex is thunder right? Think so...) un a thunder spot, it will double the amoutn of dex the mobs get. There aren't many elemental runes atm, but I'm sure more will come...

[Lordwafik]

#5 - it's suspected you need rune 086-093 to be able to get skillups during synthesis.

[Kaylia]

Alright, pretty much clear up everything I was wondering. Thanks.

[tsaroth816]

I just got my Lost and Found rune tonight, so I'll start spamming Voucher 07 with Lizard Rune now. However, I only have Tabula M01 and not much else.

(Conspicous Behavior, Enfeebling Magic, Dark Magic, Lizard and Sustenance Contract are the only other runes in there- all I have, I could only fit one more 1x2 rune in there anyhow)

Do you know what Conspicuous Behavior does? I know it's unusable for V01. Wonder how it helps in V07

Also, did everyone get their Supreme Might runes randomly from V01 hordeboxes? Collected over 800 marbles, and never seen it drop :/

[Rocl]

Just doing some recent runs we've seen about 4-5 Supreme Might runes, I really wish one had dropped when I was farming for Lost and Found

And the only interesting thing I saw was that my monster, Rahu (a Raptor), cast Blindga when low on health. Earlier all it did was Dia 2, Poison 2, and Sleep 2. I don't know if Enfeebling Magic naturally gives them the ability to cast AoE however. So in short; no

[Falcoo]

I have a very important Question , how many inventory space I will loss when I star doing this >_>;

[Rocl]

One per tabula, all your runes and vouchers disappear upon use and are stored in your "maze monger pouch" key item

[Falcoo]

oh nice

thanks!

[Falcoo]

seeing form wiki a total of 3 tabula , so 3 inventory space max

i gess i can live with it :/

[Kaylia]

Two more questions

#1 Is there any benefit to equip the title you receive? I got the feeling I just wasted 10 marbles on something useless. <_<


#2 Did a liquidation team (voucher #7), fought a single elemental and ended up with 10 marbles and 200 xp. Is there any way to make those BC worthwhile, because I don't see the benefit of doing this over a normal Voucher #01.

[VZX]

#1 Is there any benefit to equip the title you receive? I got the feeling I just wasted 10 marbles on something useless. <_<

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#2 Did a liquidation team (voucher #7), fought a single elemental and ended up with 10 marbles and 200 xp. Is there any way to make those BC worthwhile, because I don't see the benefit of doing this over a normal Voucher #01.

For marble farming, voucher 01 and voucher 04 will give you a better return.
Voucher 01 + all 5 trials rune and supreme might rune can give you 45 marbles
Voucher 04 will give you 35 marbles on default setting. But you can take a longer time to finish compared to voucher 01.

[Rocl]

#2 Did a liquidation team (voucher #7), fought a single elemental and ended up with 10 marbles and 200 xp. Is there any way to make those BC worthwhile, because I don't see the benefit of doing this over a normal Voucher #01.

The eventual reward is gear, not marbles. Assuming we nail down what makes it drop :d

[Kaylia]

Guess I will wait to get better rune before trying Voucher 07 again...there has to be something worthwhile to do with it eventually.

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The eventual reward is gear, not marbles. Assuming we nail down what makes it drop :d

Hopefully, it will have better drop rate than assault's item.

Anyway, where is the list of the missing gears from last update? I know it was posted somewhere, but cant find it.


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nvm

Ermine's Tail "Lizard Killer"
Scheherazade "Lizard Killer"
Zonure "Vermin Killer"
Koggelmander "Vermin Killer"
Barkborer "Plantoid Killer"
Eventreuse "Plantoid Killer"
Zaide "Beast Killer"
Onishibari "Beast Killer"

Mamool Ja Earring
Mamool Ja Mantle
Antica Band
Antica Ring
Gnole Crown
Gnole Torque
Lycopodium Sash
Lycopodium Earring

[Suiram]

That's mostly been the topic of conversation the last half of this thread up to now. Someone got the dagger to drop, middle of p13, if you missed it.

[Lordwafik]

Kaylia, if you do not equip either one of : Vermin / Lizard / Beast / Plantoid , you will always get an elemental according to day of the week for Liquidation. Liquidation's marbles blow ass so you're not doing that for the points. Best if you're doing liquidation with a strong LS party or something is to add the trial by budget to counter lost and found's penalty (dunno who said it doesn't have a penalty , but my tabula always comes out negative than expected with it equipped).

[Midnightjade]

I had a Demon rune drop last night in an MMM farming run. If the Killer Effect weapons drop from the Beast/Lizard/Vermin/Plantoid NMs, does anyone have an idea of what the Aquan/Amorph/Bird, Demon/Dragon, and Undead/Arcana runes are connected with?

Presumably all four ecosystems must have a connection to something, it's unlikely that SE would link one of them into the loot pool without including the others.

EDIT: I can also confirm that unlike Nyzul Isle, the mobs in MMM that should be charmable by a BST are indeed charmable, and playing BST was a lot of fun in there.

[EdgeMoragan]

I had a Demon rune drop last night in an MMM farming run. If the Killer Effect weapons drop from the Beast/Lizard/Vermin/Plantoid NMs, does anyone have an idea of what the Aquan/Amorph/Bird, Demon/Dragon, and Undead/Arcana runes are connected with?

Presumably all four ecosystems must have a connection to something, it's unlikely that SE would link one of them into the loot pool without including the others.

EDIT: I can also confirm that unlike Nyzul Isle, the mobs in MMM that should be charmable by a BST are indeed charmable, and playing BST was a lot of fun in there.

I have demon and it wont plug in to bosskill voucher. So boss runs seem currently restricted mostly to the species that are involved with the weapons. I kind of wonder if there is an eventual higher purpose to the non applicable runes... Or if they're there just to be cool.