MMM findings

[Yvonne]

0/2 On Koogle today. No go so far.

Edit: Thanks Rik, I'll give that layout a try tomorrow, although I might have to sub Warrior with Red Mage. Keep us updated if it drops again tomorrow.

[VZX]

Got my koggelmander from the setup I posted yesterday, going to edit with pic of the runes position after we finish some farming runs.

Edit:



http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9...1548nk8.th.jpg

Tabula M03

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8127/tabulanh3.jpg

05: Lizard
13: Great warrior (resonating on earth element)
17: Supreme might
18: Might
43: Enhancing Magic
51: Warrior (job)
94: Lost and found

I think this can rule out the need for 2 runes to be placed on the correct element as it was just Great Warrior on earth for me.
Btw the reward was 10 marbles, possibly having to add runes to counter the -marbles from lost&found has something to do with it? Before this attempt most of my boss mazes gave 8-9 marbles after opening the box (though this was also my first win with might+supreme might)

Thanks for the layout Rik. As, I thought, it is a Gladius model.

I think we already disposed the requirement of "need 2 runes to be placed on appropriate block" when they got Koggelmander and Ermine's Tail with just Great Warrior put on the earth block.

We tried peon + weakness, peon, and no level runes at all to see if they can drop something to day, but we didn't get any drop. Easily trioable though.

EDIT:
Idk what's the specific setup Ela used, but from the layout of your tabula and Auburn's setup that drops Ermine's tail. All the elemental block is covered by rune, and at least 1 of the rune is placed on the appropriate element block.

[VZX]

Just checked JP wiki beast MMM subpage.
- M03
- Beast, Great Warrior, Might, Mysticism (they wrote MP here), Enfeebling, Elemental, Lost and Found
- Great Warrior and Mysticism were placed on the appropriate elemental block
- Drop Ermine's Tail.

I guess that eliminates the theory you need both Supreme Might and Might in order to get weapon drop. Except, we don't know if placing both can increase the chance of the weapon dropping or not.

Also, they added entry for Koggelmander:
- M03
- Lizard, Great Warrior, Might, Supreme might, Stillness, Enfeebling, Evasion, Lost and Found.
- Great Warrior (earth) and Stillness (water) were placed on the appropriate elemental block.
- Drop Koggelmander

[Tarubaby]

Zonure Found!

Did another run with the exact same settings as yesterday (my post is above).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ihwaZonure.jpg

Zonure to Nauq, congratulations!

[vagus]

Just got Maze Rune 093. The rune reads "Master Chef. Cooking skill will be enhanced when syntheizing as a party. Gonna try this tommorow. Not sure how this is gonna work when my alchemy is at 100. Lol.

[Alistaire]

Has there been any confirmation of the details on "enchantment: reraise" on Mamool Ja Earring? 1/1 with 24hr recharge would be nice but I doubt it's that generous.

[Woufi]

Has there been any confirmation of the details on "enchantment: reraise" on Mamool Ja Earring? 1/1 with 24hr recharge would be nice but I doubt it's that generous.

According to the dats files:

30 charges, 12h recast.

[VZX]

1/3 Koggel for us. Same setup and layout as Rik's except we were using Elemental instead of enhancing magic.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?i...6123421jc1.jpghttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9...3421jc1.th.jpg

200 exp 10 marbles, if anyone wondering

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?i...6123421jc1.jpg

[Pergatory]

Zonure Found!

Did another run with the exact same settings as yesterday (my post is above).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ihwaZonure.jpg

Zonure to Nauq, congratulations!

Congrats! Have you gotten Koggelmander from that setup yet? Or would it appear that M02+Lizard = Zonure, and M03+Lizard = Koggelmander? (Yes I know there are various other runes required, at least 094 and maybe others, but I'm leaning toward those affecting drop rate only, if anything.)

[Yvonne]

0/3 ;o;

[Mural725]

1/3 Koggel for us. Same setup and layout as Rik's except we were using Elemental instead of enhancing magic.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?i...6123421jc1.jpghttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9...3421jc1.th.jpg

200 exp 10 marbles, if anyone wondering

http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?i...6123421jc1.jpg

Mind if I ask what job is the 6th? PLD? o.o

[Kang]

Grats on the drop guys.

I'm going to try to pop the bugard for the first time tomorrow with my ls.

I don't have enough marbles for might nor have i gotten supreme might (I've only gotten peon lol). But I do have a lot of magic runes.

Going to put them all on to see if maybe koggel can drop from that.

Setup will be M03, lizard, great warrior on earth block, lost and found, elemental magic on dark block, divine magic and enhancing magic.

if it doesn't drop we'll at least have a nuke happy bugard lol.

[Kaylia]

Was there any extensive testing done with 500 marbles stats rune. I never see them on people's tabula?

[VZX]

Mind if I ask what job is the 6th? PLD? o.o

BRD (I dualboxed it) and RDM for max recast on melee and PLD
SCH for max protection.
DRK PLD and SAM for melee.

[Phraust]

Maybe this was answered and I am completely Blind/retarded, but to those that have done this, what do you think the 'minimum' settup would be to kill that NM? Possible for a group of say 3 to do it if they were the best geared/etc jobs? Sam/Thf/Whm, Thf/Whm/Rdm, Thf/Whm/Blu, or something?

[Mural725]

Maybe this was answered and I am completely Blind/retarded, but to those that have done this, what do you think the 'minimum' settup would be to kill that NM? Possible for a group of say 3 to do it if they were the best geared/etc jobs? Sam/Thf/Whm, Thf/Whm/Rdm, Thf/Whm/Blu, or something?

I have done this fight a few times. With Might and Supreme Might, melees will hit for 0 most of the time. So it'll be hard for a THF to get hate. Plus the NM hits pretty hard so I'd recommend a tank. Also, depending on which magic rune (if any) you use, you might want a stunner as well. I'd recommend having a SCH as main healer, since they're pretty self-sustaining and their DoTs can be very effective as well. Just my 2 cents.

I should have mentioned, last time I tried the fight (Lizard, Great Warrior, Might, Supreme Might, Elemental Magic, Healing Magic, Lost and Found) with PLD, SAM, DRK, BLM, BRD, SCH, we almost ran out of time too.

[Yvonne]

I recommend a PLD/NIN over a NIN mainly because it's TP move can one shot if shadows are down. As I posted earlier, average PLDs will eat about 100+ w/shields and 200+ w/o shield blocks. Melee will generally hit yellow HP after one love tap.

I wouldn't recommend any other DDs sides DRK/THF or SAM/THF. Sushi or Pizza is recommended due to it's evasion and high DEF.

[Rocl]

I don't know if anyone's really tested the elemental runes, but after putting an Ice Rune on the Ice Block of my Tabula, my Bugard became extremely resistant to Ice Magic. Paralyze was very difficult to land in my full magic accuracy/skill gear and I heard from the Black Magics Blizzard was performing subpar as well.

No drop again, btw

[ronin sparthos]

Hm, how did everyone who is farming the NMs get marbles so fast? Were you just going in groups since day 1 or are people cycling in others for maximum marbles?

[jimbobsonofgod]

A mix of cycling in people + Adding Runes like trial by budget,trial by numbers etc .. and you can get 45 on a kill all with a level 1 in about a minute.
Guy in my ls has like 5 mules+ with that set up lol.