MMM findings

[Kang]

It seems that from the recent developers interview that Lost and Found is only important for unlocking the extra runes (jobs and crafting). We're gonna try some runs tomorrow without Lost and Found and more stuff resonating and report our results. I'm gonna try a BLM Nimble Nelson (Beast/Tiny Warrior resonating wind), Dark Magic, Fire (resonating), Dexterity (resonating Lightning), and Enhancing Magic (resonating Light) (also with Might and Supreme Might).

Have you tried this yet?

Would like to know how it went. I just got a double rune drop again and no koggel and I'm starting to think the same about Lost and Found only affecting rune drops.

[Lordwafik]

LordWafik, if you'd be willing to share, what was your Rune setup for Ermine's Tail?

Wasn't my tabula sorry, I don't know what the guy used, he basically told me "Want a dagger for your thf?" and when I said yes, he told me to come along. I think some people in this thread already got it?

[Yugl]

The set up should be the same for all NMs except you change the species and whether its great or tiny warrior. After that just boost the toughness of the NM (And resonating elements) to increase the drop rate.

[gamez]

Wasn't my tabula sorry, I don't know what the guy used, he basically told me "Want a dagger for your thf?" and when I said yes, he told me to come along. I think some people in this thread already got it?

Dear Wafik, you just broke my heart due to grinding for dagger to no end without luck of getting that blm rune I require.



Signed, Princess Jasmine.

[Kaelia]

Dear Wafik, you just broke my heart due to grinding for dagger to no end without luck of getting that blm rune I require.



Signed, Princess Jasmine.

BLM rune isn't the only one that works, is it?

[Arthars]

i got 1 blm rune and like 6 war runes....

i lost the blm rune lot......

so yea, i will be pissed if blm is the only workable rune lol

but that will be corny

[Kerberoz]

Pretty sure job/magic type doesn't matter at all, as long as you have a job and a magic. I've gotten drops without BLM.

Elemental is nice though because it takes so long to cast. Especially when the rape bunny of doom casts flare or something and gives you time for extra nukes before it whirl claws your face.

[Arthars]

yea <3 elemental magic runes

my other 2 mules no luck on that so they settling with divine magic

[bunz]

Not sure if it was confirmed earlier, but a job rune isn't needed to get drops (at least for accessory).

This rune set up is for Mamool Ja Earring. M03 Voucher 07-- I went 1/2 after adding Elemental Magic. Resonated only Stillness for the earring.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...olearring2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../voucher07.jpg

[Arthars]

so the highest chance is resonate only 1 rune that will drop equips

i believe i saw a SS of weapon + armor

did they resonate 2 equip runes?

[tsola]

I resonated Great Warrior and Stillness. BLM job rune, no magic rune of any kind. Supreme might/might/lost and found.

First run dropped a mamool ja earring, the second a koggelmander.

[Arthars]

yea so its possible to drop either or even both with 2 resonating equipment runes

PS: equipment runes means those runes that have proven to drop equipments. confirmed so far: Stillness, motion, great warrior, tiny warrior

[Lauzian]

More updates from our group.

Here are the last batches of runs we did and probably the last runs we will do for a while. Although our drop rate wasn't as great as our earlier ones but we still got drops.


Mamool Ja Mantle
- resonated tiny warrior
- included Might/Supreme Might/Lost and Found/BLM/Elemental Magic
- 1/7 on mantle; the mantle dropped off our last run which had MNK because the person didn't have BLM
- we then tried to use MNK again the next day and got another drop and later on a 3rd mantle
- so we went 1/7 then 2/9 all drops were on MNK mazes


So we then thought maybe the reason it was dropping was because of the MNK rune and maybe a melee job rune will increase melee equipment drop rate, seems correct since we used mage job rune to make the mage equipment drop. It could just be that MNK is considered harder and it increased the drop rate or it could mean alot of things but still a theory we like to test.

Mamool Ja Earring
- resonated stillness
- included Might/Supreme Might/Lost and Found/BLM/Elemental Magic
- 2/8 on earring then 1/11
- we then tried this again w/o lost and found due to information that lost and found wasn't needed to make equipment drop and we went 0/11; We didn't prove that lost and found isn't required yet and we might try to confirm it later on if it hasn't already by then


We decided to test if our theory about melee runes is true and decided to go for the polearm which in the pass we haven't have any luck on.

Zaide
- resonate great warrior
- included Might/Supreme Might/Lost and Found/MNK/Elemental Magic
- 2/9 on polearm


We went to further test the melee rune theory again on the dagger.

Ermine's Tail
- resonate great warrior
- included Might/Supreme Might/Lost and Found/MNK/Elemental Magic
- 2/7 on dagger


We haven't proven yet that our melee rune theory is correct but it seems to have a better drop rate for us. Who knows, maybe it's just placebo but if it works we will use it to get other drops and as long as we get drops we will continue to use the setup.

I'm assuming people haven't gotten much drops because they can't defeat the NMs which I can understand because these NMs aren't a joke at all. But because my groups setup and experience we kill these NMs with ease. We use PLD/SAM/COR/BLM/RDM/BRD most of the time and it's definately easier with COR because warlock's roll makes debuff alot easier to land and rolls themselves are so powerful it makes our fights alot quicker and easier. This also explains that the harder the mob the better the drop rate for us at least. The devil bunny is pretty much easy for us although it can get messy at times but the worst NMs we have killed would be the funguar. I wouldn't advise killing the funguar unless you're up for a challenge because that mob is a monster especially if paired up with BLM or elemental magic.


And just to make it clear, you probably do not need job/magic to get drops but it does make the NM harder and as SE stated the harder the NM the better the drop rate. You can probably put in any of the other runes maybe even harder runes like rapid strike and such instead but we haven't tried it yet. Job and magic runes has gotten us drops so we continue to us it.

[montgomery]

Just a question for me, would this set up be able to put out Koggelmander and/or the mamool ja earring?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/jayrodtm/mmm.jpg

Or would I need to set a different job, or supreme might? Group just started doing nm, o/2 so far with that set up, and it seemed people on here had a better grasp of what makes items drop than I do.

[Wolfknight]

Just a question for me, would this set up be able to put out Koggelmander and/or the mamool ja earring?

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/jayrodtm/mmm.jpg

Or would I need to set a different job, or supreme might? Group just started doing nm, o/2 so far with that set up, and it seemed people on here had a better grasp of what makes items drop than I do.

could drop the sword not earring[need stillness for it I think] while it might drop it, it seems w/o SM + M the drop rate is much lower.

[Arcanesoul]

Do the runes that increase marbles for Voucher 01, increase the chance of an armour/weapon dropping by that amount (e.g. Trial by velocity 0-9 marbles- increase drop rate by ???)?

[Xno Kappa]

Is it necessary to have a job rune to drop Koggel?

[Wolfknight]

Is it necessary to have a job rune to drop Koggel?

no, but I've yet to see it drop from a set-up that had job nor magic in it so I'd guess one of the two is needed.

[Xno Kappa]

Current setup is M03=Lizard/Great Warrior/Supreme Might/Dark Magic/Stillness, all resonating minus 05 obviously. Yet to see anything from it so was starting to get doubtful. Using friends characters at the moment to farm marbles in order to get Might and L&F, hopefully those will boost my luck.

[Durden]

no, but I've yet to see it drop from a set-up that had job nor magic in it so I'd guess one of the two is needed.

About 50 Taniwhas ago I got Zonure with no magic or job rune