MMM findings

[Bakthi]

If you add a summoner, the same maze can be done with stillness added(pretty sure you need tabula M01 though) for a chance at mamool ja earring.. summoner simply spams nether blast at timer and keeps BP:Ward ready in case spring water is needed for awful eye. If awful eye goes off, BLM will be tanking for a bit.

Was the RDM meleeing for hate? If not, you could just not face the mob, and Awful Eye, along with associated petrification and hate loss, won't be a problem. I can 2box a 47 WHM for Stona, but I think avoiding that issue and hate reset altogether would be better.

Thanks for posting this, btw. Hoping to try this today as BLM RDM BRD (I figure having me along for Elegy and March will be safer than as a 2nd BLM). This is exciting, because we usually do this when most of the LS is not on, since the 3 of us have odd work schedules.

Edit: oh, and it's still M03 for Stillness so that you can resonate Stillness on water.

[Thorny]

Was the RDM meleeing for hate? If not, you could just not face the mob, and Awful Eye, along with associated petrification and hate loss, won't be a problem. I can 2box a 47 WHM for Stona, but I think avoiding that issue and hate reset altogether would be better.

Thanks for posting this, btw. Hoping to try this today as BLM RDM BRD (I figure having me along for Elegy and March will be safer than as a 2nd BLM). This is exciting, because we usually do this when most of the LS is not on, since the 3 of us have odd work schedules.

Edit: oh, and it's still M03 for Stillness so that you can resonate Stillness on water.

Wow. I'm going to go kill myself now, thanks ._. Could probably duo with stillness, you do not melee for hate.. wasn't really thinking I guess, lol.

[Bakthi]

I am now 1/2 on Mamool Ja Earring, and you are my hero.

We did it with RDM/NIN, BLM/NIN, BRD, and 2boxed SMN. Awful Eye never hit, but Nether Blast is still nice consistent damage. Our RDM died to Tusk with it at 9%, and we made an epic finish.

I have only had THF, WHM, and Healing Magic drop for me, so I used M03 with:

Lizard
Great Warrior
Might
Supreme Might
Stillness (resonated)
Force of Will (for the lulz since you had it, I doubt it changed much with no magic rune in mine)

Edit2: nvm about edit 1.

[Valisk]

WTF Thorny, how long have I been in your sig? lol

[Sady]

I hate you Bakthi and your retarded playtimes... It seems the student has become the master! I'm so jealous lol =)

About how long did it take per fight with such a minimalist setup?

Also, very intersting that you got a Koggle without resonating GW. It seems there's more to it then the simple "resonating this rune can make these items drop" theory.

[Bakthi]

I hate you Bakthi and your retarded playtimes... It seems the student has become the master! I'm so jealous lol =)

About how long did it take per fight with such a minimalist setup?

We got the rumble the first time when it was around 10% HP, but we were being cautious and I needed to Nether Blast more often. I didn't really time it after that, but no rumbles. I'll keep better track next time. I'm also wondering how viable the other mobs would be. I think the Dhalmel and Goobbue might be okay, but the rabbit...maybe not.

Also, very intersting that you got a Koggle without resonating GW. It seems there's more to it then the simple "resonating this rune can make these items drop" theory.

Yeah, just...pretend I didn't say that. There isn't >.>

[Thorny]

I hate you Bakthi and your retarded playtimes... It seems the student has become the master! I'm so jealous lol =)

About how long did it take per fight with such a minimalist setup?

Also, very intersting that you got a Koggle without resonating GW. It seems there's more to it then the simple "resonating this rune can make these items drop" theory.

26 min duo with RDM + BLM and aforementioned setup, also adding that the enfeebling magic was because divine never fucking drops not a strategy call

[Sady]

Oh, NM the bit about rune theory then lol.

I like the idea of using SMN as a DD for these, wish I'd thought of that...

It's nice to have see some finesse alternatives to the brute force setups I've been mostly using.

[Bakthi]

Seems it takes us just about 20 minutes per run. 0/3 today...got cockteased by a Maze Rune 90.

I think this setup will probably be fine for the Dhalmel (provided it doesn't spam Healing Breeze) and Goobbue as well. Rabbit, I'm not so sure.

[Yvonne]

Gonna have to take a break from MMM til the update. The drops are really bad, I just don't understand how people can walk away 1/2 or 1/1 on em. I just hope the drops will be adjusted or additional runes will be made to have fixed drop rates.

[Thorny]

Seems it takes us just about 20 minutes per run. 0/3 today...got cockteased by a Maze Rune 90.

I think this setup will probably be fine for the Dhalmel (provided it doesn't spam Healing Breeze) and Goobbue as well. Rabbit, I'm not so sure.

dhalmel no, rabbit yes though notably harder than bugard(duo i mean.. trio might be able to do dhalmel with smn or an additional blm)

[Toshiko]

Just went 1/1 on MMJ earring

http://www.thelinkshell.org/toshi/MMM1.JPG

Rune setup as below

http://www.thelinkshell.org/toshi/MMM2.JPG

Lost and Found
Lizard
Great Warrior (resonating)
Might
Supreme Might
Elemental Magic (resonating)
Stillness (resonating)

RDM/NIN PLD/NIN BLM/RDM SMN/WHM SMN/WHM
Did it within 15 minutes I believe, got a little rough at the end when the blm pulled hate but otherwise was fine.

[Thorny]

dhalmel no, rabbit yes though notably harder than bugard(duo i mean.. trio might be able to do dhalmel with smn or an additional blm)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2165/...2ghoyusrev.jpg
Just tried dhalmel with 4(BLM RDM SMN + 2box BLM, all /nin except smn) and had very little difficulty, won in 11 min. 1/1 Ermine's, congratulations Seaku <3

Setup was the one I listed earlier for Tanihwa, with lizard rune changed to beast.

[Karbuncle]

Quick question. right now i have Tabula Mo3 with the following

Beast
Great Warrior (Resonating Earth
Enfeebling Magic (Resonating Darkness)
Lost and Found


I have at my Disposal Elemental Magic as well, But not Might and Supreme might. I should still be able to get say, Ermine's Tail with this set up, just at a low drop rate?

or is that something we haven't really "Figured out" yet i did go through the thread and noticed almost all drop set ups had Might/Supreme though.

[Thorny]

don't resonate the enfeebling magic, more than one resonated rune is bad supposedly.. there have been confirmed drops with no M or SM but they really don't make the fight that much worse so I would use them anyway.. enfeebling is easier to deal with than elemental in general and pretty sure it doesn't matter which magic you use since i got all my drops with enfeeb

[Yugl]

don't resonate the enfeebling magic, more than one resonated rune is bad supposedly.. there have been confirmed drops with no M or SM but they really don't make the fight that much worse so I would use them anyway.. enfeebling is easier to deal with than elemental in general and pretty sure it doesn't matter which magic you use since i got all my drops with enfeeb

Wtf? Enfeebling is wayyyyyy more difficult than elemental. At least with elemental you have time to stop the spell or gtfo, but Enfeebling -agas are fast and can screw your tank over badly.

[Thorny]

Wtf? Enfeebling is wayyyyyy more difficult than elemental. At least with elemental you have time to stop the spell or gtfo, but Enfeebling -agas are fast and can screw your tank over badly.

maybe if your tank sucks, i tank it fine on rdm without stuns.. with elemental your blms have to stop resting constantly to stun shit ._.

[Karbuncle]

Wtf? Enfeebling is wayyyyyy more difficult than elemental. At least with elemental you have time to stop the spell or gtfo, but Enfeebling -agas are fast and can screw your tank over badly.

I did my first run on M01 Tabula, cause i didn't have M03 (Just got it). but when i set Enfeebling Magic he only used Single Target Enfeebling Magic, Sleep II, Slow II, Poison II seemed to be his Favorite.

What conditions do they become -aga spells in?

[Thorny]

I did my first run on M01 Tabula, cause i didn't have M03 (Just got it). but when i set Enfeebling Magic he only used Single Target Enfeebling Magic, Sleep II, Slow II, Poison II seemed to be his Favorite.

What conditions do they become -aga spells in?

He has blindga and diaga, but they're used pretty infrequently and all in all I've had a much better experience with enfeebling rune than elemental.

[Bakthi]

Enhancing and Dark aren't too bad either. The only problem with Enhancing is that it erases debuffs, which is annoying since it does have some resistance, so you can't always get them back on right away. But the RDM is spamming Dispel on it anyway, so whatever it buffs itself with doesn't last long. Though once it did manage to time Shell IV perfectly to intercept an incoming nuke.

As only Healing will drop for me, I use no magic. >.> I don't use a job rune either, because the only two I have are WHM (obviously out) and THF, which mysteriously turns mobs into ravenous hellbeasts.

So far I believe we are 2/12 on earrings between the 3 of us, although one of those runs did not have SM (not one where something dropped), and one of them dropped a Koggelmander due to a misunderstanding.