MMM findings

[Panthera]

tried MMM marble farm rune w/lvl 46, got half marbles, I think getting exp probably increases marble reward now.

Unfortunately, no. Marbles from exp mazes are even worse than before, only 5. Given all the new Tabulas and runes, SE really needs to readjust the marble reward.


RE: Manaburn Voucher 02: Might or might not work. The mobs might track you down no matter where you are, but they might go back and idle in the pit. Plus, they might come 1-3 mobs at a time, rapidly, not just one huge wave, so you'd have to have add control such that you're sleeping them close together. Manaburn Elementals might be the way to go.

Voucher 02 could be a lazy man's way of farming marbles. No need to run through 3 sets, they all come to you!

Also, there's various paths on the map, which might lead to a map 2, map 3 etc. Unsure if Sneak / invis will work to scout the place out. My LV1 mule has his work cut out for him . . . . .

[Flight_93]

All this talk of marble farming will be moot once Duplidoc gets stocked.

Sure, people may hold out on publishing their "rare" mazes, but it'll only be a matter of time until every useful combo shows up.

Kinda sucks for those of us who slaved to get our runes, but w/e.

[Panthera]

All this talk of marble farming will be moot once Duplidoc gets stocked.

Sure, people may hold out on publishing their "rare" mazes, but it'll only be a matter of time until every useful combo shows up.

Kinda sucks for those of us who slaved to get our runes, but w/e.

EXACTLY. Setting up an exp maze took A LOT of work. I like being able to share my maze with my friends and people i pick up so we can do back to back to back ad infintum exp mazes, but what's in it for me to make my EXP maze, or Kogglemander dropping boss maze avaible to everyone on the server? There is no compensation for it at all, and I'm the one that's gotta pay 20 marbles to make it available. A great man once said,"WTF?"

[Yugl]

EXACTLY. Setting up an exp maze took A LOT of work. I like being able to share my maze with my friends and people i pick up so we can do back to back to back ad infintum exp mazes, but what's in it for me to make my EXP maze, or Kogglemander dropping boss maze avaible to everyone on the server? There is no compensation for it at all, and I'm the one that's gotta pay 20 marbles to make it available. A great man once said,"WTF?"

Can they use the duplicated rune in a run with you so you can get Koggelmander? Increasing the amount of NM runs might have been SE's way of increasing the chance of drops.

[Panthera]

Can they use the duplicated rune in a run with you so you can get Koggelmander? Increasing the amount of NM runs might have been SE's way of increasing the chance of drops.

Yup. have your friends buy your EXP or boss maze, toss them lead and let them start MMM using their copy of your maze.

[Flight_93]

Yup. have your friends buy your EXP or boss maze, toss them lead and let them start MMM using their copy of your maze.

They shouldve let you create sell'able versions, or limit the times your maze can be purchased from Duplidoc.

Oh well.

[Karbuncle]

Ok all i see is talk about nerfed marble rates (Even though it was stated in the update notes they adjusted the amount of Marbles rewarded because of C.C System)

Has anyone had a Chance to Experience the C.C System? or is it too Soon

[Panthera]

too Soon

too busy trying out new mazes and runes to get reward for NOT doing maze...i can't think of another point system in this game where you get points for not doing anything.

[Gwynplaine]

Players will receive their first C.C. point 32 hours after the last time they exited a maze of their own design. Additional C.C. points will be awarded at a rate of one every 8 hours thereafter, up to a maximum of 6 points.

This wording bugs me. It is ambiguous whether or not that means using a tabula OR entering on someone else's turn who is using a maze YOU designed. I hope it only applies to when you use your tabula. If so then you could still be free to help others on a maze you duped.

[Flight_93]

i can't think of another point system in this game where you get points for not doing anything.

being an HNM LS leader?

[Suiram]

being an HNM LS leader?

being in any LS that awards points for camping 24h spawn NMs?

Anyway did another V04 today, this time with 106 set but last synth blew up and we were just duo so we timed out. Picked Journeyman again. I never did any V04s pre-patch using a L&F crafting rune, so I don't know if this is from that or if this is new, but did you always get the option for what craft level (novice through journeyman) that you wanted the final item to be? If not maybe the level you pick influences chance to break.

[Wolfknight]

I wonder if it's possible to ultimately get the same amount of marbles you would have had farming them over the period if you save up the full C.C. points? (hahaha! Optimism)

SE didn't mention extra marbles though on CC points and if this is the case it's fucking retarded so terrible reasoning by them if so and I am glad I got almost the useful runes already.

[Yugl]

If so then you could still be free to help others on a maze you duped.

But duping is illegal!

Has anyone tried the NMs post update? I thought they mentioned these would be easier along with the Wings Mobs nerf.

[Myriads]

Any one see any new runes as drops?

My group has seen around 8 drop since the update, under Lost & Found and without, and nothing new. Five new runes is not the 'many' that the patch notes seemed to indicate...

[Wolfknight]

But duping is illegal!

Has anyone tried the NMs post update? I thought they mentioned these would be easier along with the Wings Mobs nerf.

I waiting til max'd on CC points to try boss atm now.

[Panthera]

VOUCHER 03 EXP PT ATTEMPT:...

Used the usual exp runes, 03, 14, 17, 18, 102 and 108. Setup was 74-75 brd rdm rng war nin drk. There is no map.

The first level had two rooms opposite one another. One had 2 IT imps, the other had 3. We defeated them, and the ladder appeared. options were given to "Advance" or "exit." we chose to advance.

2nd level had 2 rooms of IT Coeurls, grouped in 2 and 3. Not too hard.

3rd level had 2 IT Malboros! They weren't too bad. Killed them and moved on.

4th level had 2 rooms of Skeleton type mobs, about 4 total. The ranger was not happy.

5th level had 7-10 Hecteyes. Other than -aga spells, they weren't too difficult. They were spaced out a bit though in a large room.

We defeated the Hecteyes with 5 minutes left. The Maze Pearl said there were more mobs left, but we chose to exit. The room we exited to had the chest. We popped it and got 4400 exp off the chest alone.

The maze pearl seems to tell you how many mobs there are per floor, though this didn't seem to be the case on the hecteyes level.

The advantage to this one is it's not "all or nothing" like Voucher 01, you can stop and get exp for what you've done so long as you beat the current floor. The disadvantages are the lack of control over mob selection, and there is more running around and zoning that takes up time and does not make for good high chains, where it's possible to chain all of Voucher 01.

What remains to be seen is 1) if the layout is the same every time, or is it like Nyzul Ilse and it's random floor progression, and 2) if the mob are completely random every time or if it's a static imps > coeurls > marlboro progression.


On a side note, what pickups are enjoying about MMM is that the camp is entirely your own and no one can attempt to steal it; no frantic running around amongst 2-3 PTs attempting to claim on pop virgin Greater Colibri. People like seeing all that exp all at once, 5-10k off the chest especially the first time after getting only 50 exp per kill. The only thing about MMM is that it's like any other camp. You're still depending on players to have good gear, and know what they're doing. Sometimes, it seems players get a bad impression of MMM, when really there might be a PT setup / player issue.

[Deband]

That sounds pretty good, shame i spent my last 300 on a cool looking hat yesterday lol

[Flight_93]

Anyone know if C.C. is reset upon maintenance? I know Duplidoc gets wiped.

[Wolfknight]

Anyone know if C.C. is reset upon maintenance? I know Duplidoc gets wiped.

it better not going to be very annoyed if it does I'll check after besieged ends and so GG SE making us waste more marbles -.-

[Gergall]

what's in it for me to make my EXP maze, or Kogglemander dropping boss maze avaible to everyone on the server? There is no compensation for it at all, and I'm the one that's gotta pay 20 marbles to make it available.

Apparently it can eventually get you into a "Hall of Fame" which might be cool (if it doesn't erase on server resets).

If you know someone is going to put up the best XP configuration sooner or later anyway, it may as well be you so you can be the famous one