MMM findings

[Mellema]

Just got a Goblin Stew in the hoardbox , anyone have a clue what it does? BGwiki and otherWiki just have the item listed, no other info. FFXIAH shows that it's only been AHed on 5 other servers.

We did a couple numbers runs in the last few days. Spawns 6 chests. I think perhaps more than the usual 2 can be up at any given time though? Maybe not. Hard to tell what the marble bonus was because slightly longer runs offset the velocity bonus (and because I didn't make a note of it and don't remember what we got lol)

All three papeteries are up at the start. I'll often skip the first one I see if I know I have to pass it on the way back. That way it won't weigh me down as long.

[Suiram]

Are you sure? What I'm saying is 2 are up at start, opening either of those causes a 3rd to spawn. I could have sworn that it's happened to where a chest wasn't up until one was opened and it spawned in a place that had already been checked, but now you're making me doubt myself and I've done like 30 of these runs in the last week and they're all bleeding together now lol

[Mellema]

Are you sure? What I'm saying is 2 are up at start, opening either of those causes a 3rd to spawn. I could have sworn that it's happened to where a chest wasn't up until one was opened and it spawned in a place that had already been checked, but now you're making me doubt myself and I've done like 30 of these runs in the last week and they're all bleeding together now lol

I've seen all 3 up for sure. I usually run across the bridge first and scan below. I've had all 3 visible from there a couple times.

I did have 2 stacked on top of each other before though, so that it looks like it respawns in same spot. I know that it doesn't actually respawn though because I've had ??? and chests on top of each other before, and you can't open one of them until the other was opened first. That was a pain because I couldn't open a chest once until I took a item first, and that slowed me down even more in a bad spot. I kind of wish you could toss the temp items sometimes, but they won't let you.

[Khamsin]

Well, got two Ermine Tail drops from Purushamriga with only Might, Elemental, Enfeebling and MND as extra runes. So job rune is not a necessity, although may still help.

Do the Vermin section of NMs drop anything? I can't find any information on their drops, or even about what those fights are like. Are there MMM weapons with Plantoid Killer and has the hidden effect of making you a Vermin, and such?

[Wolfknight]

Well, got two Ermine Tail drops from Purushamriga with only Might, Elemental, Enfeebling and MND as extra runes. So job rune is not a necessity, although may still help.

Do the Vermin section of NMs drop anything? I can't find any information on their drops, or even about what those fights are like. Are there MMM weapons with Plantoid Killer and has the hidden effect of making you a Vermin, and such?

yes, assumedly these 4 items:
Barkborer - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more
Eventreuse - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more
Antica Band - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more
Antica Ring - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

I assume no1 really gone for them since no of them seem that great or anything special.

[Gergall]

I kind of wish you could toss the temp items sometimes, but they won't let you.

Huh?? I have dropped temp items on many occasions. They appear as a ??? on the ground near where you dropped them.

I hit Control+I to open up my items menu, scroll up to the temp items at the top, highlight the one to drop, hit enter, and choose drop.

[Arcanesoul]

Do the Vermin section of NMs drop anything? I can't find any information on their drops, or even about what those fights are like. Are there MMM weapons with Plantoid Killer and has the hidden effect of making you a Vermin, and such?

Well, I included the possible drops on my guide I made for my linkshell a page or so back, although there's no confirmation.
However Iyamoopo (Crawler - 006,013,015) should drop both the Barkborer and Eventreuse,
and Atlas Beetle (006,014,016) should drop both the Antica Band and Antica Ring.

I haven't looked back through the thread, but I'm sure Lordwafik posted a screenshot of him joining in on some shout group fights with Yellow Pillywiggin (drops either band or ring). There may be more related screenshots too.

I think no one really wants the items though except bst for the Barkborer if they like spending time in the tree. I have no idea if the Eventreuse is any good for War, although it does look like a decent, it seems there are easier and better weapons available like the Fourth Division Toporok if campaign a lot (although this will probably mess up peoples x-hit builds), and Byakko's Axe, and Perdu Voulge aren't that hard either. The Antica band seems to fall short of Iota Ring since it has no acc, and I believe that no one wants the Antica Ring, because +" ninjutsu skill is more or less useless, and +2 blue magic leaves it short of breaking into a new tier of dmg.

[Bakthi]

The Antica band seems to fall short of Iota Ring since it has no acc.

Also, it goes on your head. So it's really a level 72 Empress Hairpin with 5 attack instead of 10 evasion and -15 HP.

They've certainly left plenty of mob family runes to add more cool items, so I guess we'll see.

[Arcanesoul]

>.<

Thanks for catching that. Not sure why I kept thinking it was a ring..

[Mellema]

Did Tabula 3, voucher 6, runes 2, 9, 10, 11, 16, 73, 77, 79, and 103. 62 marbles and 200 XP. To get any higher, I guess we'd need to drop 16 but that makes it much harder. With out 16 the marble count would go to 65, then adding another rune could bump it up a couple more.

Did a test on mule with just rune 16 and 113. 36 marbles and 200 xp. So 113 gives a 1 marble penalty. Got another Goblin Stew on that maze, so may use that later to see if it does anything when inside a maze.

Second test was with rune 16 and 10. 41 marbles 200 xp. So rune 10 gives 4 marble boost.

Huh?? I have dropped temp items on many occasions. They appear as a ??? on the ground near where you dropped them.

I hit Control+I to open up my items menu, scroll up to the temp items at the top, highlight the one to drop, hit enter, and choose drop.

Just tried again on Silver beastcoin, Lancewood lumber, Orc liver, and Slime oil and it won't let me drop any of them. May be a bug on 360? Only way I know to get rid of treasure is to either trade it to the start NPC or to the NPC in jail.

[Gergall]

Just tried again on Silver beastcoin, Lancewood lumber, Orc liver, and Slime oil and it won't let me drop any of them. May be a bug on 360?

Can anyone on XBox 360 verify or deny that they can't drop temp items?

Mellema - can you drop temp items in other events such as Besieged or even just the ordinary temp items you get from the blue treasure crates that appear in Signet areas?

I sometimes drop items strategically. For example, lets say I have an Orcish Liver and I am still looking for the Sparkling Stone. If I am on the 2nd map and I am about to check the very long dead end on the west side of the map, I will drop my Orcish Liver so I can run faster. Then I pick it up again as I exit the dead end.

If you have a mob on you you can drop stuff to help outrun it (or perhaps run to a nearby satchel you saw earlier, cancel the aggro, then go back and get your stuff).

[Arcanesoul]

Only way I know to get rid of treasure is to either trade it to the start NPC or to the NPC in jail.

What does trading treasure to the npc in jail get you? Does this have some other effect on the treasure? Does it count?

Nice work on the marble counts.

Working on more assumptions and your marble values it may then be possible to get more marbles with
002, 009, 010, 011, 016, 074, 100, 103, 104 on tabula M01
This should come out to 40 + 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 -3 + 2 + 3 + 3 + 7 ? = 68 marbles?

Gonna have to try this out.

[Mellema]

Can anyone on XBox 360 verify or deny that they can't drop temp items?

Mellema - can you drop temp items in other events such as Besieged or even just the ordinary temp items you get from the blue treasure crates that appear in Signet areas?

I sometimes drop items strategically. For example, lets say I have an Orcish Liver and I am still looking for the Sparkling Stone. If I am on the 2nd map and I am about to check the very long dead end on the west side of the map, I will drop my Orcish Liver so I can run faster. Then I pick it up again as I exit the dead end.

If you have a mob on you you can drop stuff to help outrun it (or perhaps run to a nearby satchel you saw earlier, cancel the aggro, then go back and get your stuff).

I tried dropping items on my mule which I play on ps2 and it wouldn't let me either. I can't recall ever trying to drop temp items in besiege or from blue chests before, so unsure about that. I would love to be able to do like you described and leave them in safe spots while still searching.

Edit- OK figured out the problem. I was always useing temp items by clicking on myself and scrolling down to "Items". By opening the command menu and going to items from there it will let me drop the temp items.

What does trading treasure to the npc in jail get you? Does this have some other effect on the treasure? Does it count?

There are 3 ways to get out of jail. You can wait a couple seconds for the gigas to turn the other way and run down the tunnel to the well there. If you hit the red glowing device (forgot it's proper name) within the last 30 seconds, or if someone else in maze hits it for you, you can use the well of humility that's down the tunnel to your right when you get sent to jail. If you have treasure, you can trade it to the NPC in jail and he'll open the well behind him. It pulls up a list of treasure you have and you pick which one to give. You lose the treasure, so it's not turned into the starting NPC.

All 3 exit to the same spot, so no reason to really waste treasure. And remember when you exit to check the ladder, if you are short either sachet it will give you another.

[Suiram]

Oh something I meant to mention yesterday. In case others here are like me and didn't even think to check, one of the people I V06 with noticed yesterday that the Goblin Digger is regular (non-true) sight. Since he mentioned it we've invised past him a few times without aggro, so it's held up so far.

[Arcanesoul]

Oh something I meant to mention yesterday. In case others here are like me and didn't even think to check, one of the people I V06 with noticed yesterday that the Goblin Digger is regular (non-true) sight. Since he mentioned it we've invised past him a few times without aggro, so it's held up so far.

Yeah, Gergall's already mentioned this a few pages back. Comes in quite handy, until you need to use both the costume and invis. Got caught with the bug costume on and the Gobbie bound me in the middle of a doll and two flans...

Thanks for the jail info Mellema

[Suiram]

Did a run where we tried to get as many additional items as possible. To make it easier, didn't set any mob families, velocity, or budget. Runes 16, 73, 74, 76, 94, and 113 were used. Aside from a couple unused pickaxes, we turned in every item in the maze including irksome chest item and 2 buried treasures. We opened the chest 25min in, anticipating a bounty of rare and exciting treasures, and were met with 37 marbles and a broken composite fishing rod. I now have absolutely no guess as to what turning in extra items will do lol

[Mellema]

Another test run. Tabula 3, voucher 6, runes 2, 9, 72, 73, 74, 76, 77, and 78. 60 marbles. 2 and 9 are worth 4 marbles, so each of the 70's was worth 2 each.

[Arcanesoul]

Did 002, 009, 010, 011, 016, 072, 074, 100, 103 and barely finished ( I got the 5 min warning), and got 60 marbles, so no velocity bonus at all. I did hand in a couple extra stuff near the entrance too, and all I got in the hoardbox was a Goblin Stew.

There doesn't seem to be a wiki entry on Goblin Stew, but from a google search I got it has -4 Agi and a def boost of 15.6% when eaten and lasts 3hrs (off KI), however FFreceipe (JP version) has -4 Dex + 15.5% atk and +15.5% rng. atk.

[Mellema]

Did 002, 009, 010, 011, 016, 072, 074, 100, 103 and barely finished ( I got the 5 min warning), and got 60 marbles, so no velocity bonus at all. I did hand in a couple extra stuff near the entrance too, and all I got in the hoardbox was a Goblin Stew.

There doesn't seem to be a wiki entry on Goblin Stew, but from a google search I got it has -4 Agi and a def boost of 15.6% when eaten and lasts 3hrs (off KI), however FFreceipe (JP version) has -4 Dex + 15.5% atk and +15.5% rng. atk.

I tried trading the stew to all the goblin NPCs in town and in the maze, none would take it. Used it in maze and got the -4 dex and 15.8% attack, didn't notice anything else.

[Arcanesoul]

Yeah. I tried something similar, and tried trading the Stew to various Goblins. I even tried Leadavox (Vunkerl) mentioned in the Vandiel Tribune, and got nothing. Gonna see if I can come up with any more ideas before I get rid of it.

I notice the wiki entry for Goblin Stew got updated shortly after I posted too lol.