Windower for FFXI?

[Syntex]

Who uses it?

Does SE still have a Banhammer policy on those caught using it?

I have also seen a few new changes to windower, what has been added/removed?

Thought I ask as I might need the unlimited macro option when I start on RDM.

[Kainsin]

I make use of it, mainly for Spellcast.

I haven't actually heard of a legitimate claim for being banned because of Windower. As far as I'm aware, there's no way for SE to know that you are using it unless you tell someone you are in-game.

For your RDM you'll find Spellcast to be quite an invaluable tool, especially at later levels.

[Tenbroya]

Distance is extremely useful when pulling.
YarnBall is invaluable to any RDM or BRD.

Those are the only two plugins that I use a lot. On top of that you have the ability to make much longer macros which are very useful when swapping large amounts of equipment.

[Vigilia]

Who uses it?

Windower [Windower.net]
251610 total downloads according to frontpage.

Does SE still have a Banhammer policy on those caught using it?

I wasn't aware they ever banned peeps for using Windower, especially since they've now released their own Windowed mode it's not exactly a big deal to be using basic windower. It's the other apps and bots that can be ran alongside windower that get you into trouble if you choose to use them so stay away from them.

Never forget first and second rule of the Fight Club.

I have also seen a few new changes to windower, what has been added/removed?

I have no idea what you'd consider new so best you check their website?

[The Blackrose]

I wasn't aware they ever banned peeps for using Windower...

There has been the occasional oddball claim where someone has cried up and down that they were banned because Windower (via the third party app clause in the ToS). Usually later on it's found out that the idiot was either using something else (FFXIApp) or decided to spill the beans in a logged form of communication.

However, FFXI does not have an equivalent to WoW's Warden. If something like that existed, we'd know about it relatively quickly.

[Ragns]

People don't get banned because they use the Windower, they get banned because they're morons. End of story.

[cdgreg]

Who uses it?

Does SE still have a Banhammer policy on those caught using it?

I have also seen a few new changes to windower, what has been added/removed?

Thought I ask as I might need the unlimited macro option when I start on RDM.

Most

Never

See website

Yes

[Silenka]

Like I keep saying even SE employees use windower (at home) XD
As long as you're not using a plugin to give yourself a trackable unfair advantage (which I don't know if windower even has) you can't get banned for it.

I've heard maybe 3 or 4 claims that people were talking about windower in /tell or pt or whatever and got banned, but I don't really believe it. They can barely get off their asses to ban legitimately fraudulent activities. I've talked about windower in tells and ls before (not often) and I use IME regularly and I've never even had a warning on my account.

Not to say it couldn't happen, but like others said, don't talk about fight club and you're fine.

The plugins I use are drawdistance, IME (I speak Japanese), distance, recast, XPwatch occasionally, and TParty. That's it. Tried spellcast but all of my macros are subtarget and spellcast didn't work with subtarget when I tried it so I'm not even going to bother messing with it.

I still want a plugin that will let me tell it where to go and have my chocobo run there while I afk. =(

[Rasantath]

I still want a plugin that will let me tell it where to go and have my chocobo run there while I afk. =(

its being worked on, apparently.
Hermes (conceptual) [Windower.net]

when you load Infobar you can see your current coordinates. with that information i'm sure waypointing is possible, at least within the current area.

[Azkarin2]

Anyone able to get Windower to work on 64bit Vista?

[_chuchu]

There should be a windower + vista guide on the tech forum

[BIGSTIC]

Anyone able to get Windower to work on 64bit Vista?

I use it on my 64bit laptop with no problems. I used the same guide I did with my 32bit desktop that i found on their forums. Its stickied on the top of one of their pages.

[Silenka]

its being worked on, apparently.
Hermes (conceptual) [Windower.net]

when you load Infobar you can see your current coordinates. with that information i'm sure waypointing is possible, at least within the current area.

Yeah I saw that before, but I'm not sure how it will actually work. Plus I'd be afraid of getting the banhammer for it.

[Mojo]

It would probably use some kind of pathfinding system, all done locally and undetectable as usual.

[Sonomaa]

if you talk about something that isnt against the rules you get banned for it. Every windower related ban has been because some idiot was chatting about it. Its Alec Baldwin, you cant get banned for talking about alec. (official windwer is steven baldwin)

[Khamsin]

its being worked on, apparently.
Hermes (conceptual) [Windower.net]

when you load Infobar you can see your current coordinates. with that information i'm sure waypointing is possible, at least within the current area.

I imagine there'll be a lot of issues to iron out with that, to determine where to go to avoid aggressive mobs, or when to use sneak/invis, etc. when going through dangerous territory. Or even, say, going from a city to jeuno as a level 1 on autopilot. But it'll be interesting to see it take me from Whitegate to Jormungand on it's own.

[Tubbers]

Hermes is a really difficult thing to create at the level of performance they are going for. It isn't very difficult to give a set of waypoints (co-ordinates) and have your character run to each one in succession, but it is quite difficult to say "run here" and have the best route seamlessly planned out for you. The program needs to know all of the maps and terrain, and obstacles like enemies.

It has been a conceptual design for a while now, and probably will be for a while. If it ever gets finished I'll be extremely impressed.

[Ragns]

If it ever gets finished I'll be extremely impressed.

The problem is that windower devs play FFXI.

[Silenka]

I just want chocobo auto-pilot, I'd prefer to do on-foot all myself. I could see RMT abusing the Hermes program to get their mules to jeuno and whatnot without actually having to be there. =(

[Devek]

RMT should start a service where they wait at every zoneline, and for a small amount of gil you can follow them to where you want to go.

For once people wouldn't mind them.