Time and Date Discussion

[Kuya]

I thought there was an attempt to make Esperanto the universal language but it didn't catch on.

[Zeb]

I hate the US system mostly because of our base units. In Metric, the basic units are length, time, mass, and temperature. But in the US our base units are length, time, force, and temperature. Mass is a derived unit. I wouldn't really care but since I'm an engineer, when using anything that involves mass you have to double check your units whenever mass is involved and it gets pretty annoying.

Also, slugs are idiotic.

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[Katlan]

this thread is so proof that general is the new spam

[Xfaustx]

You really need to stop acting like you're center of the world. You seem to be ignorant of the fact that countries like China can obliterate all of america in a heartbeat simply because of the difference in manpower. Then again, big country = plenty of stupid people.

I guess that makes china fucking retarded. OP is annoying. Obviously you know everything about the world. China obliterate America militarily? okeedoo. yes there's a lot of ignorant people but your heads in your ass and you're obviously as ignorant as the rest of us.

Edit- and yes I realize you're defending someone but this newthread is way outta context and makes you sound dumb. Shoulda kept this crap in the original thread. And no I don't hate china you just said big country = dumb people. /end rant

[Cerb]

this thread is so proof that general is the new spam

ur spam

[Rocl]

This is the best fucking thread ever, let me change the OP so it says "Date and Time" Discussion because everyone knows Date goes first, Kuya you get to be the mod who reports the people posting in Time-Date and moving the posts this time

[BRP]

Once again the America is being oppressed by the many nations of the world. When will the injustice end? Why do you hate us because we are different?

[Kaylia]

I thought there was an attempt to make Esperanto the universal language but it didn't catch on.

Yes it failled. People arent willing to drop their language (cultural reason I guess) for this...

[Khamsin]

It'd make more sense to use an established language that already has a large following to reduce the number of people that have to sacrifice their old language, rather than attempting to introduce a new one that requires everybody to sacrifice.

[Jodwahh]

Is this thread really 3 pages long on 24/12/2008?

[Headspace]

Is this thread really 3 pages long on 24/12/2008?

Why yes it is, and it's just past 12:41 AM on the Eastern time zone, which is the best time zone.

[Baha]

Imperial is fucking annoying and horrible, but that's mostly UK's fault, US just helps to keep it supported. ;p For distances and speeds I've gotten used to eyeball-converting to metric, but volume and mass I really need a converter for.

The date system usually isn't a big problem, it's only a pain in the ass when it's written numerically (and thus it's annoying on forms and in databases). I hate filling in forms where they don't add DDMMYY or such in the description.
24-12 makes sense to me because of the way I'd pronounce the date in Dutch (and often say 24th of December in English as a result).
12-24 makes sense in English because it's common to say December the 24th.

Standards would be nice, but the MMDDYY date notation system isn't clearly inferior (like imperial measurements are), so you can't really call it stupid. One argument for the DDMMYY form is that it's linear from smallest to biggest unit, just like you would write down most measurements (albeit you'd go from biggest to smallest, but hell, I could live with YYMMDD).

AM/PM vs 24hr system is meh. I still learnt to read a clock on an analog (gogo AM/PM), but 99% of the time I check the time it's digital (gogo 24hr), but I'll always say 2'o clock, and never 1400hours (until I go enlist amirite!), so who gives a shit.

It'd make more sense to use an established language that already has a large following to reduce the number of people that have to sacrifice their old language, rather than attempting to introduce a new one that requires everybody to sacrifice.

Sacrificing old languages might be a step too far, but I do agree that you'd have to use an existing language over a wholly new one. English's probably the language that fills the "if you learn to speak any language as your second one, study this one" role, so it'd be most logical for it to be the universal language as well. Maybe a little ironing to weed out the tougher grammatical bits, and there you go.

So!
Metric for everything but football
YYMMDD to keep in line with hh:mm:ss, 5feet9, 5m10cm etc!
15:24 or 3:24 PM
Everyone learns English, no more shitty dubs and slow EU game releases thanks to France/Germany/Spain.

[Khamsin]

I think we should put the minute first in time, just like people are proposing we do with dates.

The 24th minute of the 15th hour. Makes sense. 24:15

By the way, how did the second-minute-hour convention make it into the metric system? Why aren't metric time units centered around a 100 hour day with 100 minutes each and 100 seconds per minute, with a metric second being a lot smaller than the imperial second?

[Kaylia]

It'd make more sense to use an established language that already has a large following to reduce the number of people that have to sacrifice their old language, rather than attempting to introduce a new one that requires everybody to sacrifice.

We dont want to speak chinese I think. This language sound like a pain to learn.

While I wouldnt mind teaching english to my kids, I don't think many people would be willing to give up on their old language to teach someone else language. Something like Esperanto would be the best, and wouldn't cause any "pride" issue for anyone.

Beside, that language was meant to be easy to learn. No more shitty grammar and old artifact that often appears in old language.

[JigglyJam]

I could live with YYYY-MM-DD.

DD-MM-YYYY is wierd as hell though.
That's going through time in reverse or some shit I don't know.


That's like having time recorded as 56:04:01. So it'd be the 56th hour of the day and not 1:04 am. WE DON'T HAVE 56 HOURS IN A DAY WHAT THE SHIT.

[Khamsin]

We dont want to speak chinese I think. This language sound like a pain to learn.

While I wouldnt mind teaching english to my kids, I don't think many people would be willing to give up on their old language to teach someone else language. Something like Esperanto would be the best, and wouldn't cause any "pride" issue for anyone.

Beside, that language was meant to be easy to learn. No more shitty grammar and old artifact that often appears in old language.

Actually, Korean would be good. That was made specifically for the illiterate uneducated masses of medieval Korea and designed to be easy to learn, speak, write, and understand. And apparently it worked, and dramatically increased literacy in Korea to all-time highs at the time.

[Lordwafik]

I don't care which format is used, so long as DD/MM/YYYY or MM/DD/YYYY is stated also if the form that it's being used on is important. If it is aimed at a global audience I like them to use words too, like "5th December 2005" or "December 5th 2005". Numerically it can get annoying depending on the website, there have been times when I fill out a form on a website where I have to double check what country the website uses if they don't announce what format is being used.

Funnily enough, me and my mother's birthday are both 12/4 and 4/12 (as in 12th of April and 4th of December), if we went to usa then we'd have reverse birthdays.

[Baha]

I think we should put the minute first in time, just like people are proposing we do with dates.

The 24th minute of the 15th hour. Makes sense. 24:15

By the way, how did the second-minute-hour convention make it into the metric system? Why aren't metric time units centered around a 100 hour day with 100 minutes each and 100 seconds per minute, with a metric second being a lot smaller than the imperial second?

Think it was because there weren't any problems with regional units of time, an hour is the same anywhere really. Metric did seep in a bit when you go smaller than seconds. You never really notice how annoying the 60 subdivisions are until you start physics, or when you have to go into subdivisions of angles (also 60 minutes in a degree etc).

Well when I tried to make the argument that DDMMYY follows through from small to big logically, I immediately ran into hh:mm:ss and pretty much anything that you write down goes from biggest to smallest. DDMMYY isn't standard for anyone, so you get your standard without anyone forcing it on anyone else. ;p

If you were being sarcastic, I stand wooshed.

[Demosthenes11]

whoa whoa whoa, surely some of you aren't SERIOUS about a uniform language? I understand you don't think it would catch on, but would you actually want that?

And what church said, you don't like it? We'll fucking liberate your peoples

[Deftscythe]

I don't think anyone is going to give up their language, but ideally we'd all by bi-lingual, speaking one universal language(probably an existing one based on either simplicity or popularity) in addition to our regional language.