Starting FFXI.

[Kiwifernz]

Hello, first of all I used to play on Levithan, I had a 50 War/25 Sam and a 30 Monk - I was Elvaan - Played late 2003/2004.

What I have been doing is playing WoW for a while, finished end game content in the new Expansion and the gear is given out I find far to fast and easily to basically noobs, the skill of the game is gone, which really is lame, but thats how it is.

I have a fried of mine who is intersted in starting the game too with me, which will make leveling quite fun, I picked up playing two years ago again, but the lack of being in a Link Shell that was not English, lack of players, I found leveling really hard to get to level 10, alot harder then what it used to be.

I would like to know are there any Australian LS, what server is High Population and also what is it like getting a sub job to 40 and a main job to level 75? I will be only starting out with the Original and first expansion if I decided to play, along with my mate, but we would deff. be looking for a LS that have pretty active and reliable people in it (We're both mid 20's but you can't tell that from my Grammar can ya =P ).

Also what would two classes be that would be good to level up together with? Perhaps a Tank and a Healer to reduce down time in forming groups?
Also what are the better end game Tanks? Pally/War? Nin/War? War/Mnk?

Any help would be great =D

[Juib]

uhhh lvl cap is still 75 bud

[Kiwifernz]

uhhh lvl cap is still 75 bud

Sorry I will edit that, too much WoW...

[Souj]

considering you played WoW mainly more than FF11, statistically and most probably, you'll end up quitting for WoW in the not too distant future.
I dont have answers to any of your questions just thought I'd let you know. guess i'll through in a positive "prove me wrong" and good luck though.
If you get up to level 55 and still wanting to play, I'd suggest getting the WotG , and TAU(must must get). TAU has so much better exp camps than zilart areas it could cut your exp time in more than half. and Campaign is nice for a couple thousand exp here and there.

[Lordwafik]

If you're after a somewhat slower/calmly paced game, I know someone who came to FFXI from WoW and enjoy it more - however they did come with some friends so that helped a lot.

Before, like 2-3 years ago, the game was really hard for low/mid level people, but now it's much more feasable to log in, get 300-600 xp in a 20-30 minutes (pre lvl50) by doing feilds of valour, and then logging out.


Now in regards to Australian LS's, while a bunch of us play, we're very spread out amongst all the servers, and server transfers are a very recent thing to this game so people aren't really willing to break the bonds they made over 2-3 years with their current LSs. The only server I heard of having an AU LS was Odin, but Odin is an extremely congested server and I'd reccomend against joining that server.

[Izzy]

What I have been doing is playing WoW for a while, finished end game content in the new Expansion and the gear is given out I find far to fast and easily to basically noobs, the skill of the game is gone, which really is lame, but thats how it is.

If this upsets you, then FFXI will upset you even more. It's not hard to get anything in FFXI now.

[Souj]

one more tip:
BG is a bad place to try and get motivated to play FF11.
It's a mostly jaded community.

[Kohan]

one more tip:
BG is a bad place to try and get motivated to play FF11.
It's a mostly jaded community.

Don't say that, they'll run away to a place like Allakhazam or the FFXIclopedia boards. Even if people are jaded here, they're better than a lot of the "enthusiastic" players there.

Also: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...tips-ffxi.html

[Hyan]

Well, Alla at least has some newer players who might have started only few months ago, thus giving a better opinion than cynic 4+ years in endgame "why did SE make FoV instead of Salvage2 Q_Q" player.. Although it might be more realistic here than Alla's "you don't have to lfp anymore, gear is given to you and everyone is so nice ingame ;D" *rateuprateuprateup* comments.

Anyway, 1 of my buddies started XI after playing WoW, and I think he likes this one more.. He's not the ordinary guy tho, what he finds good in the game is cool musics and epic story.. not so much the gameplay >_> 2 of my other friends started XI too but they had never played WoW except on a private server so Idk.. they say they like the "bigger accomplishment" part of XI or so they say although they've taken like a month's breaks before because they can't stand the slow gameplay. They always come back though, to my surprise.

I guess a lot depends on if you can get a good social LS that can help ya on your journey. To make leveling easier I'd definitely have one of you level a tank (Paladin) and the other one a buffer/refresher (BRD, COR, RDM, "DNC") or a healer (WHM, SMN, SCH). That way you 2 could duo some Fields of Valor if there's not enough peeps lfg or you don't have enough time to party. (My suggestion is PLD+DNC, but lots of combo's work).

[Vigilia]

Also what would two classes be that would be good to level up together with? Perhaps a Tank and a Healer to reduce down time in forming groups?
Also what are the better end game Tanks? Pally/War? Nin/War? War/Mnk?

Any help would be great =D

For leveling up, PLD/WAR is the standard combination. At end-game, PLD/RDM or PLD/NIN are the other required alternatives.
The others already answered your other questions above, PLD+healer/buffer is a good duo, but if your friend aims to do end-game I'd advice against PLD+DNC. PLD with RDM or BRD or COR would be a safer bet, as DNC job is now it has very little use in end-game play. It does depend on how you define end-game too though, FFXI has two sides to it.

There are the more casual end-game aspects like Dynamis, Salvage, Assaults/Nyzul, Limbus, Einherjar etc. where any job and group can do well if they have half a brain. These events can be done fairly easily with small static groups or even by pickups although less commonly and they can all be scheduled to a time that suits you. In general, any solid players who know their job(s) are welcomed in these groups. Then there are the HNMs, the big wyrms, kings and behemoths and such that require specific strategies, effort to camp and the right group setups to be defeated and the linkshells who regularly go after such monsters are nowadays relatively picky about their new applicants and the jobs they can offer. DNC as the job is now would lose out big time if you want to go for the big monsters.

Not trying to put you off from coming back, best of luck with new adventures but just figured I'd give you a heads-up on what may come at the very end.

[Syntex]

I just recently quit WoW to come back to FFXI with some friends for the same reason, the content in wow just became too easy.

When I can heal Naxx in all 70 holy paladin gear from sunwell and do better then people in full dungeon epics it really just begged the question of "why bother", also going from the hardcoreness of a sunwell guild who cleared it where you needed every ounce of skill to heal through things otherwise its a wipe to being afk half the fight and still killing it in record time put a bad taste in my mouth.

That and since I quit(FFXI) almost 2 years ago I have never found something as enjoyable to play as my RDM.

Either case I picked it up 2 weeks ago and am loving every minute of it, there is so much more depth in this game then in wow with story and people since wow is 95% a solo game you don't connect with people like you do in FFXI and on top of that the game feels better since you get more down to earth feeling then the flashy effects of wow and all its pretty colors ect.

If you want come join us on Ifrit, could use some more people over here :D

[Baha]

If you're set on endgame and levelling together, tank and support or mage is the way to go.

PLD or NIN with
RDM BRD or COR, but WHM is ok too

BRD or COR are usually harder to find than a healer, and while they're not essential to have, they make partying a fuckton faster and more enjoyable. DNC debuffs are somewhat along the same line, butthose don't have the impact that the BRD and COR buffs do (and BRD has elegy on top of that, slowing down the enemy a lot, probably best debuff to have, especially if you're playing NIN).

Maybe it's me being jaded, but a lot of people say FFXI has become more accessible, or even "solo-friendly". I don't really agree, I thought campaign was about as much fun as besieged, just with better xp. Haven't done fields of valor, but 600xp for 30mins doesn't exactly sound like a viable solo levelling pace either.

But! It may still be party-centric (so you'll have to deal with mouth-breathing retards as you level), but with a friend, it can be really fun. (and you have someone to complain to!) It's kinda like groups in WoW for instances, when it's good, it's great, but when it's bad, it's awfuuuul. The whole dynamic in parties is much better in FFXI than in WoW though, need to coordinate more things to do well.
Engame however, *has* become more accessible, with things like assaults, nyzul and salvage being doable by 6ish people viably, for great gear.

The endgame is pretty satisfying to do, it's just the road to that payoff is a bit bumpy. Then again, I really really enjoyed levelling my first few jobs, only got jaded about it later on, so your mileage may vary.

[Psion]

FoV really isnt 600 exp an hour, its 600 exp + whatever exp you make from soloing mobs in that hour. >.> Its basically a free emperor band that stacks with your emperor band! Oh, and a little gil. But considering EP-DC mobs give you like 60-110 exp a pop now, it's rather easy to combine FoV with solo and get about 2-3k exp an hour or more, depending on job. (DRG/BLU has it easy ;p)

As far as what you want to level, if you don't care about what you play, tank + healer or buffer combo works well for getting exp and useful in endgame... but if you want to enjoy the game, play whatever damn job you please. People tell me I'm a dumbass for leveling a worthless job like pup to 75 and quitting rdm and blm... then Oniwaka pulls off a 870 damage blizzard IV on a statue in dynamis that nearly one shots it and they start to shut up. I have an open-minded dynamis/linbus shell that does other stuff on occasion, and they let me go pup to everything becuase they know I'm real useful anywhere, whether I'm providing low hate nuke damage that makes blms envious, or having Oniwaka hit HNMs that normal melees can barely dent and have him hit it like it was a wild rabbit, or just shredding weaker mobs up with the combined damage of me and my automaton on sharpshot. I love my job, and because I love it, I do very well in it and have even inspired other people who thought pup was useless to start leveling it themselves... many have fallen in love with it too!

I hated endgame because I found it boring to play blm or refresh whore for hours, making me wonder why I was even bothering to do HNMs if the gear I could get for it was for jobs I didnt enjoy. Whatever job you play, make sure it is the job you can level and have fun in, and take pride in. That is the job you should level, in my opinion.

[Vaxx]

I agree with the other posters here, Tank + Support/Mage are probably one the best combinations to start with to form exp parties, get to 75, and jump into endgame, other than 2 x Support/Mage.

One good example if you plan on starting from scratch:

1) Pld main, level War and Nin subjobs together, OR
Nin main, level War and Drk subjobs together.

2) Rdm main, level Blm and Whm subjobs together, OR
Brd main, Level Whm and Nin subjobs together.

I have a friend who recently came back also for good hopefully after being away for a few years. He has 75 Pld, and was looking for a job to be more useful to help in being accepted to my LS. He was thinking Rdm next, which is what I would have suggested.

Good luck!

[orson]

Not matter what anyone says I'd still say FFXI is way more fun and immersive than WoW. It certainly has it's flaws but the scope of the story lines and your direct inclusion in them makes you feel much more like a part of Vana'diel as opposed to usually being an observer of events in WoW. That's really what I love about FFXI. Needless to say also is the group of people I play with some of whom I've known for many years.

[Okan]

Coming back from WoW myself, some of the few things I enjoyed in FFXI over WoW was the ability to just change your class/job. So your friend can level DNC at his own pace, but also level BRD/COR while he's partied with you.

Also you don't have to make a new character to play those jobs -- that also means all the items and money you've acquired on that character stay. This is one thing that killed me in WoW when I leveled an alt. I did not want to farm 6k gold for mounts. And then have all this gear on one character that could be viable for another class (Say Warrior with Hunter alt) and now my awesome rings and swords are completely unusable on my alt.

And don't get me wrong. WoW had tons more things I preferred over FFXI, but I'm just wanting to see the new content of FFXI since I quit just before ToAU expac release.

[Corruption]

Hello, first of all I used to play on Levithan, I had a 50 War/25 Sam and a 30 Monk - I was Elvaan - Played late 2003/2004.

What I have been doing is playing WoW for a while, finished end game content in the new Expansion and the gear is given out I find far to fast and easily to basically noobs, the skill of the game is gone, which really is lame, but thats how it is.

I have a fried of mine who is intersted in starting the game too with me, which will make leveling quite fun, I picked up playing two years ago again, but the lack of being in a Link Shell that was not English, lack of players, I found leveling really hard to get to level 10, alot harder then what it used to be.

I would like to know are there any Australian LS, what server is High Population and also what is it like getting a sub job to 40 and a main job to level 75? I will be only starting out with the Original and first expansion if I decided to play, along with my mate, but we would deff. be looking for a LS that have pretty active and reliable people in it (We're both mid 20's but you can't tell that from my Grammar can ya =P ).

Also what would two classes be that would be good to level up together with? Perhaps a Tank and a Healer to reduce down time in forming groups?
Also what are the better end game Tanks? Pally/War? Nin/War? War/Mnk?

Any help would be great =D

Here is my 2 cents:

The job cap is still level 75 but I'm not sure if you were around when they added the Merit system (which if you fully merit would make you effectively in between level 76-77) and the sub job cap is still 37.

If you don't have the Chains of Promathia expansion you aren't missing a lot unless you get friends to help you go through the missions (then you get access to a lot of cool gear/areas), but I would say Treasures of Aht Urgan is essential for leveling anything past level 55 (even though you might get lucky with Level Sync).

Also Wings of the Goddess is kinda the same as CoP with the difference being that the missions are cake and the areas are not restricted like in Cop... Again if you don't have a good LS or friends to help you the best stuff found in the past is not going to be obtained lol.

I guess my best suggestion is that if you really want to get back into FFXI you should buy the 2009 aniversary edition of the game which is only like $20 so you can get all the expansions you are missing and you could even use the other codes to get a new character on the same server OR use as a temp mule on the free trial period.

Thats how I did it, as for the Australian population I couldn't tell you where they are but I will say that if you play since you are most likely in the same time zone as Asia and probably closer to Europe than USA, you should get an LS with those time zones unless you want to do events on odd times!

[Darwinion]

I guess my best suggestion is that if you really want to get back into FFXI you should buy the 2009 aniversary edition of the game which is only like $20 so you can get all the expansions you are missing and you could even use the other codes to get a new character on the same server OR use as a temp mule on the free trial period.

I bought the 2008 Anniversary edition for when I bought my new PC in the summer. I figured it would be best to buy the one DVD with all the updates (up to pressing the disc) than installing my original discs separately and downloading all the humungous updates.

Wrong! SE were really tight and simply put on this disc the original game and expansions as they were first released. So I still had the hours of downloading. All I got was a new box to gather dust on and a new content ID. (as yet unused)

[Sumy]

I bought the 2008 Anniversary edition for when I bought my new PC in the summer. I figured it would be best to buy the one DVD with all the updates (up to pressing the disc) than installing my original discs separately and downloading all the humungous updates.

Wrong! SE were really tight and simply put on this disc the original game and expansions as they were first released. So I still had the hours of downloading. All I got was a new box to gather dust on and a new content ID. (as yet unused)

you must have gotten an old disc then... when I bought my new computer I too also decided to get the collection, 2009. Only needed to download 1400 files after install which was the 3rd WoTG update.

[Corruption]

I bought the 2008 Anniversary edition for when I bought my new PC in the summer. I figured it would be best to buy the one DVD with all the updates (up to pressing the disc) than installing my original discs separately and downloading all the humungous updates.

Wrong! SE were really tight and simply put on this disc the original game and expansions as they were first released. So I still had the hours of downloading. All I got was a new box to gather dust on and a new content ID. (as yet unused)

Oh yeah I know it sucks you still have to go through the whole process of doing each individual update but what I was saying was to use the codes on the back for the expansions for his existing character causes its actually a bit cheaper than buying them individually getting access to ToA and CoP for example.