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  1. #1
    Relic Weapons
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    What is the usual wait time for suspensions?

    I have a few friends that have been jailed now for almost two weeks. They only get the usual "you are under investigation and cannot make GM calls etc." crap from read me NPC, they have never been GM'd before, and have been unable to get any information on what they did wrong. They suspect it may be from duping cells (only cells, not gear) in salvage.

    Does anyone have any experience with being jailed for about 2 weeks without getting any information? Any thoughts on whaqt they can do to try and get some info?

    Any help would be appreciated.

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    King of the Jews
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    here it comes...

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    *popcorn*

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    Quote Originally Posted by rath View Post
    I have a few friends that have been jailed now for almost two weeks. They only get the usual "you are under investigation and cannot make GM calls etc." crap from read me NPC, they have never been GM'd before, and have been unable to get any information on what they did wrong. They suspect it may be from duping cells (only cells, not gear) in salvage.

    Does anyone have any experience with being jailed for about 2 weeks without getting any information? Any thoughts on whaqt they can do to try and get some info?

    Any help would be appreciated.
    I haven't heard of that yet, but honestly, "I only duped cells, not gear" sounds an awful lot like "I only used windower, I never hacked."

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    Sea Torques
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    *popcorn*
    my first big laugh of the day

    thx

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    Salvage Bans
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    Quote Originally Posted by rath View Post
    I have a few friends that have been jailed now for almost two weeks. They only get the usual "you are under investigation and cannot make GM calls etc." crap from read me NPC, they have never been GM'd before, and have been unable to get any information on what they did wrong. They suspect it may be from duping cells (only cells, not gear) in salvage.

    Does anyone have any experience with being jailed for about 2 weeks without getting any information? Any thoughts on whaqt they can do to try and get some info?

    Any help would be appreciated.
    If you say since 2 weeks it sounds like the Auto-Jail thing catched him? Probably pos/flee hack, fishbotting etc. Or simply a mistake. Did he contact the service center? Usual wait time is 24 or 72hrs.

    (3)Auto-Jailer
    This is a feature that automatically jails characters involved in illegal activities.
    Up until now, we had investigated the logs of characters involved in illegal activities and then dealt with them the next day, but considering that RMT activities recently take place in a 24-hour period, we introduced this feature to immediately deal with the characters.


    After testing the auto-jailer and confirming multiple times that the function will not interfere with regular gameplay, we set it up in all Worlds at December 17.

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    Sea Torques
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    its part of the auto jail for speed/posing. your account should be shut off within a month

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    Fake Numbers
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    wow if this is true then this is awesome. Good riddance to your cheating friends~

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    Banned.

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    If you're banned for more than 72 hours, it's permanent, I have never seen anything contradict this personally.

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    Clever and witty, all together the ladies love the Nekura
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    Kinda weird that they're logging into jail and not the Content ID stopped or whatever screen, though.

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    matter of time

    tell them to enjoy their last moments in FFXI

    its a chance to bid farewell before you cant even log in and hi2u LM17

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    Sephiroth_Owa 13
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    Ok stupid question here but I don't know anything about what happens to accounts when one char is jailed but can't they get on a mule to make a GM call and find out some info, or do all the chars get jailed?
    Just a question and suggestion.

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    Formerly Raitoken
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    I haven't heard of that yet, but honestly, "I only duped cells, not gear" sounds an awful lot like "I only used windower, I never hacked."
    Windower isn't really in the same ballpark if you think about it.

    Sure you could be technical and say it is but there are thousands of people who use windower but only a few hundred who flee hack or pos hack.

    And just curious, how does one dupe items in this game, reminds me of Diablo II all over again...

  14. #14
    E. Body
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    ...the post was referring to people who swear up and down they were not hacking, just using Windower and got banned for that, then later it's discovered that they were indeed hacking.

    Also, you're very new to BG (with a very little talkative ls) if you did not catch the Salvage duping trick they fixed in a very recent patch. Basically, people could dupe Salvage drops by dissolving the alliance after entering. Everyone would see treasure pools as if they were still in alliance. It was a very well-kept secret while it worked, but was EVERYWHERE after it was revealed they fixed it. Some people got butthurt others knew about it while they didn't, some people got on a moral high horse and screamed about cheating, and some people were disappointed they knew about it but didn't actually dupe anything of value since the trick still required 35s to drop.

    This no longer works.

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    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth_Owa 13 View Post
    Ok stupid question here but I don't know anything about what happens to accounts when one char is jailed but can't they get on a mule to make a GM call and find out some info, or do all the chars get jailed?
    Just a question and suggestion.
    All chars that have shared info in the past and CC#'s get canned with it. Former linkshell leader got banned by mistake on SE's part. Long story short, he got his account back but he was already quitting


    User was infracted for this post.

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    Formerly Raitoken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuyu View Post
    All chars that have shared info in the past and CC#'s get canned with it. Former linkshell leader got banned by mistake on SE's part. Long story short, he got his account back but he was already quitting
    Thats really dumb if they do that. Why should I be banned if my brother does something stupid and I so happen to pay for his account.

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    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raitoken View Post
    Thats really dumb if they do that. Why should I be banned if my brother does something stupid and I so happen to pay for his account.
    With SE, its sort of a "guilty by association" kinda thing when it comes to info. Seen someone use their old address on a new account with a different CC# and it was only a matter of time when SE caught up with them. They had finally gotten sea the night before on their new acct

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    Yoshi P
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    Have you actually made a GM call?
    My ToAU mule got jailed for nothing with that GM NPC inside. I called a GM, he basically said there have been some mistake, asked me to check my system for errors and make sure its not overclocked yada yada. Then released me right after.

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    Chram
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    I guess this is a newb question, but wow does overclocking your CPU affect their detection systems? It's like having to compromise something they can't ban you for...

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    Yoshi P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuyu View Post
    I guess this is a newb question, but wow does overclocking your CPU affect their detection systems? It's like having to compromise something they can't ban you for...
    "such hardware settings and programs can cause conflicts with the information between FFXI and the world servers." were his exact words. They were probably testing auto-jail at that time I suppose.

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