Smoking Pot in Public?

[TheShadyMan]

Where the hell would you move to? Antarctica?

[Odon]

Salvia is in the process of becoming scheduled, and is already in some states.

[Kiro]

And while he wanders around, blinded by the snow, he stumbles upon a great marijuana plant the size of a redwood! He immediately takes shelter inside the great base of the plant. There he died a few hours later...


High off his fucking ass.

"If we're gonna die, we're gonna die high! YOPO!~"

[TheShadyMan]

I'll tell you what didn't kill him.
Smoking.

[TheShadyMan]

Kiro, why don't we talk more?

[Kohan]

I for one can't stand to be around anyone who is high. If that was ever legalized where I'm from I honestly would move away.

The most amusing thing about this statement is that you've likely run into plenty of people in your lifetime who had recently smoked, and you didn't even know it.

Not every person who smokes pot is a pothead. The same thing applies to alcoholic beverages. If you drink a wine cooler, are you a drunk? No. You're not going to reek of booze, you won't be stumbling around like an idiot, and you'll be perfectly presentable in practically any situation.

Just as well, someone who smokes a bowl of indica isn't going to behave like a stereotypical pothead, as they're likely using sativa. Indica is the type patients use for medical ailments, as it does not create the mental high, but rather, a soothing body high. I'm betting you didn't know that if you could make such a statement.

As for the smell stuff mentioned on the first page, I do agree that good stuff has a very strong smell, but if you're in a ventilated area, it's still a "background odor". It's not unrelentingly in your face unless -- as aforementioned -- someone specifically blows it at you.

Also:

Grow up with a condition that puts you in the hospital on days where the polution gets even remotely bad and come back and tell me how 'unobtrusive' any kind of smoke is.

I'd be willing to wager that marijuana smoke will not affect you in the same way. Pollution and weed smoke are very, very different things.

[TheShadyMan]

If I recall, I think weed smoke is less harmful than tobacco, but I'm not sure how much so. Using a water bong/vaporizer makes it better (Or more accurately, less bad) than smoking it straight from a joint/cigarette.

EDIT: Wiki to the rescue:
However, recent studies have shown that using a vaporizer for cannabis consumption appears to eliminate almost all of the health problems and objections related to cannabis use.[21][22][23][24][25]

See that, there are FIVE sources, so you know its hella true.

[Kohan]

If I recall, I think weed smoke is less harmful than tobacco, but I'm not sure how much so. Using a water bong/vaporizer makes it better (Or more accurately, less bad) than smoking it straight from a joint/cigarette.

This is something I wrote on another forum a while back, and it might be of interest to you:

It does pose a threat to yourself since anytime you inhale the smoke from something there is carbon residue in the form of tar in it. Tar kills the cilia in your thoat that allow you to expell mucus and foreign substances, and also flattens and damages the alveolar sacs that are necessary in the procces of oxidation of the blood. Because your body then has to repair the lung tissue it causes cell growth, and increases the likleyhood of mistakes and cancerous growths.

However, another noteworthy difference between cigarettes and marijuana is the presence of THC. Stating that both cigarettes and marijuana contain tar is not in fact a proper way to present such an argument, mostly because the pharmacological actions of the two are so very different.

Despite the significantly higher amount of tar in marijuana, THC and the way the body reacts to it overall can actually have the opposite effect of cigarettes (which also contain fillers while marijuana does not). There have been various studies done which show that THC actually deters cancerous growths by protecting the cells within the body. Meanwhile, the chemicals within cigarettes, particularly the tobacco-native nicotine, only violates and therefore opens the doors for cancer to come right in.

In fact, your not mentioning nicotine at all is a gross oversight, because that separates tobacco and marijuana even further than the THC argument does.

Marijuana and cigarettes (and unprocessed tobacco) are not in the same league at all when it comes to damage done to the human body. If you are interested in this from a scientific point of view, you should be aware of that, instead of making it sound like they are similarly damaging when they are not.

There have been no worthwhile scientific studies which prove marijuana to be harmful, and the vast majority of news releases which try to say such are utterly silly (particularly that recent one about marijuana being bad for depressed folks). The sheer opposite is true. There is bountiful information everywhere which details how marijuana, whether smoked or otherwise consumed, can benefit the human body without leaving any negative effects behind.

If someone smokes marijuana chronically, that is on them, since it does not contain any addictive chemicals. It's the same as being a chronic eater, or chronically picking your nose, or whatever you might be addicted to doing simply because you don't have the will power to make a change.

To reiterate, marijuana and cigarettes are not in the same league at all.

True there are no carcenogenic substances in marijuana, but tobaco doesn't have any either. Cigaretes are chocked full of carcenogenics that are involved with the production of cigarete chopped tobaco.
If you want to be really safe use a vaporizer so that you get the drugs, but no burn.

I agree with using a vaporizer if at all possible, simply because it's a much more pleasant experience. And there's really no point in burning your throat up if you can avoid it.

[TheShadyMan]

Yeah, I've read shit like that here and there, but being a pot user, my short term memory goes boink every once and a while. Another thing I recall is being told the worst part of the cigarette for you is the filter. Validity?

Edit: Also kudos on blowing his pseudo science out of the fucking water.

[Kohan]

Yeah, I've read shit like that here and there, but being a pot user, my short term memory goes boink every once and a while. Another thing I recall is being told the worst part of the cigarette for you is the filter. Validity?

Edit: Also kudos on blowing his pseudo science out of the fucking water.

Although I haven't heard anything on the filter being the worst part, I don't believe that's true. I did try to Google about it just now, and didn't really find anything like that, either, except for the fact that some filters contained asbestos way back when. The ingredients of a cigarette filter are actually pretty simplistic, mostly consisting of a plastic that's used in clothing -- it's what creates the cotton-like appearance of a filter.

Nonetheless, these may be interesting reads, as they'll at least help to educate on filters a bit:

HowStuffWorks "What does the filter on a cigarette do?"

Cigarette Litter --Filters

Considering the former link, I'd say that you could argue that a filter is harmful simply because of what it doesn't do -- it doesn't protect you.

And thank you for the compliment.

[TheShadyMan]

Well I do know that Marlboro and Camel use different types of filters, Camel's are purely cotton, but Marlboros/cheaper brands supposedly use fiber glass for theirs. Quick google confirmed this. I guess the thought of smoking through fiber glass would cause people to jump to conclusions.

Also I wish someone would call bullshit on 'light' and 'ultra light' cigarettes, if I have one more high horse riding fag telling me that he isn't as bad of a smoker as I am because he smokes ultra lights, I'll fucking snap. The worst part is, they taste SO BAD. It's like health companies jumping on the bandwagon and making terrible tasting 'health supplements'. People don't know shit about shit and start sniping people down from their ivory towers when they have no fucking clue what they're putting in their body. I smoke, but at least I don't try to bitch out around it, if I'm gonna put cancer in my body, I'm not gonna do it by gagging away on some trailer trash Marlboro Ultra Light.

[Kohan]

Also I wish someone would call bullshit on 'light' and 'ultra light' cigarettes, if I have one more high horse riding fag telling me that he isn't as bad of a smoker as I am because he smokes ultra lights, I'll fucking snap. The worst part is, they taste SO BAD. It's like health companies jumping on the bandwagon and making terrible tasting 'health supplements'. People don't know shit about shit and start sniping people down from their ivory towers when they have no fucking clue what they're putting in their body. I smoke, but at least I don't try to bitch out around it, if I'm gonna put cancer in my body, I'm not gonna do it by gagging away on some trailer trash Marlboro Ultra Light.

Indeed, light cigarettes and their kin are total BS. As mentioned in the first article, they're just letting you suck in more air. They're still as unhealthy, specifically because the smoker will consume as much nicotine as they need (unless they're disciplined enough to resist).

I've never smoked, but my significant other used to, and would voice similar complaints to yours.

[TheShadyMan]

Those seem like a pretty nice cash cow for Big Tobacco though, don't they? Not as much Nicotine in a pack, so they consume more. I've got to hand it to the corps, they do one of the best jobs of systematically raping their clients I've seen since the Mongols.

[tonyg]

Quick question, if I use a vaporizer, can I smoke inside my house without the smell going everywhere? I understand that there should be no smoke, but does the THC released have a smell?

[Norelco]

I'd tell him to pass that shit or i'll call da five-o

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[Colm]

Quick question, if I use a vaporizer, can I smoke inside my house without the smell going everywhere? I understand that there should be no smoke, but does the THC released have a smell?

It smells a little in the immediate area, but not extremely strong. Bear in mind this was in a large, well-ventilated room.

[Kiro]

Still smells some with a vapo. Not nearly as much as other ways of smoking though. Plus you can take the weed you used in the vapo and smoke it again later. :O ZOMG RECYCLING~

[greenhills]

Still smells some with a vapo. Not nearly as much as other ways of smoking though. Plus you can take the weed you used in the vapo and smoke it again later. :O ZOMG RECYCLING~

I normally just read and don't post but... don't smoke it, get a crock pot and simmer that used bud in some butter for a bit. kinda tastes bad once its been vap'ed, but cookies are always tasty

[archibaldcrane]

I smoked some weed that had previously been vaporized for the first time a couple weeks ago. It was one of the harshest hits (and this was out of a nice dual-chamber bong) that I'd ever had.

That being said, I got pretty fucking high.

[Plow]

If you're getting high off weed you've vapo'd your vapo is failing you.