Smoking Pot in Public?

[arus2001]

Also, trying to say a mental addiction is bad is a very very bad area to go into. Mental addictions occur because something is fun or pleasurable. Weed is just as much a mental addiction as playing video games, or hanging out with your buddies, or reading a book. I'm addicted to the euphoria of beating a game. I'm addicted to the euphoria of getting involved in an amazing storyline either through text or graphics. I must need serious help, all these damned addictions.

I figured this'd come up when people started mentioning physical and psychological addictions. In this sense, me playing my gameboy on a park bench won't overwhelm others with the smell of gaming. I won't have to change my clothes. I won't have to wash up or spritz some cologne. Indeed, you wouldn't be the wiser if you saw me later unless the red plastic was peeking out of my pocket. I'm not ingesting my gameboy (in before some DS gimmick where you shove the stylus down your throat...), and different people playing the same games won't have nearly the same uniform effects as weed upon the brain.

Nonetheless, all hobbies are subject to addiction and the pitfalls that come with it. I won't debate that one at all. Just definitely not a fan of chemically altering your body state for fun.

[Xajii]

no one smokes to the point of retardedness that you'd forget something like having to pick up a family member at the airport

Not that I'm not on your side here, but this isn't really true.

Weed pretty much amplifies your mood, your tendencies, etc. If you're stupid to begin with, then you're going to be stupider when you're high.

And yes, I have known people dumb enough to forget shit like that. But then, they'd probably have forgotten sober, too.

[Lavik]

well then doesnt that bring us back to the argument of people needing to be personally responsible for their actions?

[Xajii]

well then doesnt that bring us back to the argument of people needing to be personally responsible for their actions?

Which is the same thing on both sides... if you smoke weed you should be responsible for what you do during and after. If you don't smoke weed you should be responsible for keeping yourself away from what bothers you so horribly.

I don't do heroin so I don't hang around heroin addicts and therefore that part of life doesn't affect me. SHOCKING, isn't it

[Zhais]

I figured this'd come up when people started mentioning physical and psychological addictions. In this sense, me playing my gameboy on a park bench won't overwhelm others with the smell of gaming. I won't have to change my clothes. I won't have to wash up or spritz some cologne. Indeed, you wouldn't be the wiser if you saw me later unless the red plastic was peeking out of my pocket. I'm not ingesting my gameboy (in before some DS gimmick where you shove the stylus down your throat...), and different people playing the same games won't have nearly the same uniform effects as weed upon the brain.

Nonetheless, all hobbies are subject to addiction and the pitfalls that come with it. I won't debate that one at all. Just definitely not a fan of chemically altering your body state for fun.

And the old lady that is sitting behind you on an opposing park bench may find your gameboy to be noise pollution. What does this mean? Nothing in terms of laws/legislation. Just because something bothers you does not mean in any way shape or form that there should be legislation regarding the limitation of it.

You still are just stuck in the negative stereotypes of it all, with no thought of your own as to how there can be any different scenario. While it is true that the stupid people tend to be the stereotype, and can ruin it for everyone... all it takes is some common sense to see past it and realize the stereotype can quite easily be the minority.

[shihei]

If ya don't like someone smoking around you then move away or ask them to stop? Or take the stick out of your ass...

It doesn't all smell the same anyway, and I like to think the possibilities are endless!...but besides that, its dumb to assume anything. Ever.

Everyone's habits vary and so do their purpose for using some ganja. There is just too much knowledge needing to be dropped on the subject and a lot left to learn.

It's like...different strokes for different folks. Different strains can affect people differently and its really dumb to just label people potheads like some generic wasted tired group of darwinism waiting to happen, it opens doors for people...makes some people this and makes some people that. Gets some people creative, gets some people pumped. Some people use it to help relax themselves and some to kill pain.

Besides THC, it has plenty of various cannabinoids which all have different properties and are eerily similar to our own endocannabinoid system... This kind of stuff has big medicinal value.


Smoking isn't really the best thing for anyone though. But alas there is other ways to ingest that miracle plant as well

[arus2001]

And the old lady that is sitting behind you on an opposing park bench may find your gameboy to be noise pollution. What does this mean? Nothing in terms of laws/legislation. Just because something bothers you does not mean in any way shape or form that there should be legislation regarding the limitation of it.

You still are just stuck in the negative stereotypes of it all, with no thought of your own as to how there can be any different scenario. While it is true that the stupid people tend to be the stereotype, and can ruin it for everyone... all it takes is some common sense to see past it and realize the stereotype can quite easily be the minority.

I normally play with the volume low in public or even use headphones, but I wouldn't pitch a fit if I was asked to turn it down. Ask a smoker to put out their light? That can go either way considering the addictive, social, and financial ramifications.

Anyway, for those reading between the lines, the person left at the airport because his sister decided to spend the night before getting stoned was me. Yeah, yeah, she should've left me there, I'm sure. Was nice getting home after an 8 hour flight 9 hours after I intended to. I've got plenty of stories about people I know being stupid with drinking and weed. They don't matter to anyone here because it's nothing that hits a national newspaper or isn't supportive. I've already conceded on medical applications, though. Of course, I'm not exactly singing the praises of the FDA or other drugs, either.

[Kohan]

I've got plenty of stories about people I know being stupid with drinking and weed. They don't matter to anyone here because it's nothing that hits a national newspaper or isn't supportive.

They don't matter to anyone here because no one cares that you have idiotic friends. I guess it's more comfortable for you to hang out with your own kind.

I've already conceded on medical applications, though. Of course, I'm not exactly singing the praises of the FDA or other drugs, either.

You haven't conceded because you're completely ignorant in relation to the subject. Every single "pot pill" in existence is garbage. You're pushing for something that does not work. You've likely read into some worthless propaganda that says it's the solution to having marijuana available for smoking, but guess what? It's not. It's yet another artificially manufactured pharmaceutical that isn't nearly as effective. Guess what else? Taking THC in a highly concentrated form is unsafe and potentially dangerous to your health, unlike smoking it.

As aforementioned, you're a moron. What you want is driven by your selfish opinion and the fact that you aren't even enough of a "friend" to these people you know to help them with their addictions, you'd rather sit back and bitch about them and make life harder for people who need help, or who are more responsible.

Way to be a lazy, ignorant, worthless fuck. Is it time for me to congratulate you again?

[tonyg]

They don't matter to anyone here because no one cares that you have idiotic friends. I guess it's more comfortable for you to hang out with your own kind.



You haven't conceded because you're completely ignorant in relation to the subject. Every single "pot pill" in existence is garbage. You're pushing for something that does not work. You've likely read into some worthless propaganda that says it's the solution to having marijuana available for smoking, but guess what? It's not. It's yet another artificially manufactured pharmaceutical that isn't nearly as effective. Guess what else? Taking THC in a highly concentrated form is unsafe and potentially dangerous to your health, unlike smoking it.

As aforementioned, you're a moron. What you want is driven by your selfish opinion and the fact that you aren't even enough of a "friend" to these people you know to help them with their addictions, you'd rather sit back and bitch about them and make life harder for people who need help, or who are more responsible.

Way to be a lazy, ignorant, worthless fuck. Is it time for me to congratulate you again?

Holy mother of cock you owned him so hard I bet he's crying in a corner now

[Azkarin2]

Quick question, how long does weed last? Bought my first ounce (I think?) in late October and still haven't finished it all. It has dried out and shrunk a lot? Good? Bad? Smoke it anyways?

[arus2001]

They don't matter to anyone here because no one cares that you have idiotic friends. I guess it's more comfortable for you to hang out with your own kind.

You assume a bit much, there. Co-workers? Possibly. Friends? Hardly. I have no interest babysitting them or cleaning up after their messes. Unfortunately, I can't do a thing about being related to my dipshit sister or her defaulting on the one favor I asked of her in over a decade.

You haven't conceded because you're completely ignorant in relation to the subject. Every single "pot pill" in existence is garbage. You're pushing for something that does not work. You've likely read into some worthless propaganda that says it's the solution to having marijuana available for smoking, but guess what? It's not. It's yet another artificially manufactured pharmaceutical that isn't nearly as effective. Guess what else? Taking THC in a highly concentrated form is unsafe and potentially dangerous to your health, unlike smoking it.

They don't work for now. Hell, I'd extend pill form to an inhaler if gaseous consumption proves the most effective route. Scientists will find a way, assuming anyone's really trying. Hell, I'd be for a portion of fines collected on pot going toward legitimate research on the matter if some don't already.

As aforementioned, you're a moron. What you want is driven by your selfish opinion and the fact that you aren't even enough of a "friend" to these people you know to help them with their addictions, you'd rather sit back and bitch about them and make life harder for people who need help, or who are more responsible.

As I said, I don't keep them as friends. Apparently I have no right to tell them what to do, so I don't. I avoid it all when I can, but sometimes you just can't. When we start talking legislation about what they can freely do around me, then I do care. The content of the OP sets precedent of tolerance where misinterpretation of the law can escalate into future attempts at legalization because they think it should be a certain way. My beef is that support won't be coming from a medical majority, but the recreational crowd who thinks it'd be cool and cites medicinal values when you call 'em out on their bad habits. Like it or not, the herd mentality goes both ways here.

[Kohan]

You assume a bit much, there. Co-workers? Possibly. Friends? Hardly. I have no interest babysitting them or cleaning up after their messes. Unfortunately, I can't do a thing about being related to my dipshit sister or her defaulting on the one favor I asked of her in over a decade.

Wait, so you mean you're bitching about a select few people you don't know personally, who are obviously irresponsible and the worst example possible, and are therefore your entire reason for being against a potentially beneficial and -- even during recreational use -- relatively harmless substance?

You shouldn't have explained yourself, you would've sounded like less of an idiot if you said they really were your friends. Instead, you're proud of a detached example of a few people who you've noted have other problems, namely alcoholism. It's as if there's no end to the stupidity in the shit you spout.

They don't work for now. Hell, I'd extend pill form to an inhaler if gaseous consumption proves the most effective route. Scientists will find a way, assuming anyone's really trying. Hell, I'd be for a portion of fines collected on pot going toward legitimate research on the matter if some don't already.

And in the interim, anyone who needs it for medicinal purposes can go ahead and suffer, people using it for recreational reasons can risk getting shot for wanting one of the most harmless drugs out there, and you won't stand up for the illegalization of legitimately harmful substances or removing terrible pharmaceuticals from society?

Newsflash, those assholes you kinda know but don't really are going to be stupid fuckers whether they get their stuff illegally or legitimately, and you're still going to be a selfish ignorant shit. You might as well support something for the people who legitimately need it and will be relatively responsible about using it, then go find something less important to uselessly bitch about.

My beef is that support won't be coming from a medical majority, but the recreational crowd who thinks it'd be cool and cites medicinal values when you call 'em out on their bad habits. Like it or not, the herd mentality goes both ways here.

This garbage doesn't go both ways. People who are irresponsible are going to be regardless of whether marijuana is legal or not. The medicinal uses and the benefits even for recreational users of legalization far outweigh your petty little war against the people who annoy you personally.

You're a heartless fucker, like you said. You won't support this for clearly selfish reasons, you don't care about the facts, you're in it for you.

Go fuck yourself.

[arus2001]

Now you're sounding like my sister with all the fuck this, fuck that.

[TheShadyMan]

What an intelligent response.

[arus2001]

Well, I thought about talking about how you don't need to be best friends with a person to know them, their habits, and their behavior, but Kohan labeling me as he had served as a delightful contradiction of his earlier point to the contrary. He sees into my soul, I tell you. My turgid, wretched soul.

[Kiro]

KILL THIS CUNT NAOW


(i didn't read anything but it seemed like the right thing to say)

[TheShadyMan]

What contradiction was that again, because from facts presented, you're still hella wrong.

[arus2001]

What contradiction was that again, because from facts presented, you're still hella wrong.

Basing opinion off people I don't know intimately, and am therefore an idiot because of it. Yet, he knows nothing of me beyond my stance on pot and has formed his own visibly negative opinion.

Anyway, the topic's run its usual cycle. No need to put my head on a pike, as I'll bow out of the thread. Go toke a bowl in celebration.

[Azkarin2]

Quick question, how long does weed last? Bought my first ounce (I think?) in late October and still haven't finished it all. It has dried out and shrunk a lot? Good? Bad? Smoke it anyways?

Sorry to rebump, I didn't think a new thread would be appropriate. Seems like I could easily find the answer in here but it got lost amongst all the back and forth above....

[Ruiner]

I normally play with the volume low in public or even use headphones, but I wouldn't pitch a fit if I was asked to turn it down. Ask a smoker to put out their light? That can go either way considering the addictive, social, and financial ramifications.

What if the old lady told you your Gameboy use was wrong and immoral, and told you to shut it off? There you go, now you've created a proper analogy.

Well, I thought about talking about how you don't need to be best friends with a person to know them, their habits, and their behavior, but Kohan labeling me as he had served as a delightful contradiction of his earlier point to the contrary. He sees into my soul, I tell you. My turgid, wretched soul.

Kind of like you make blanket statements about weed smokers without anything to back it up whatsoever?