USA to split in 2010?

[Kiro]

I wonder what this country would be like if we were still under British control.

[Zilong]

We'd have robots and invade japan.

[Hellfury]

2012 is the end of mayan calendar iirc, had nothing to do with nostradamus and his bullshit.

PS: It's obvious that US will collapse and reformed as the Holy Empire of Brittania.

well, the empire of britain did(does) exist, and a fair bunch of them jumped the boat for assorted reasons and ganged up with a bunch of others to colonize america! I'm starting to see a bad pattern here!

[Zilong]

I'm gonna have to call a whoosh on that one.

[Elvis]

I concur, definitely whoosh.

[ferigor]

I wonder what this country would be like if we were still under British control.

Freedom fries would be called "chips".

[Qalbert]

who the fuck calls them freedom fries

[Zilong]

Rednecks

[Kuya]

2010 seems too early, but the forecast for the US (and pretty much the rest of the world) has been very grim. Funny enough, in Puerto Rico it's been forecasted by a quite famous political analyst that PR will become a republic, earliest by 2010.

[Zilong]

The forecast of the world has been grim for the past few thousand years now.

I blame religious belief of the coming of end of days.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Why America Is Still Awesome | Cracked.com

First things first: Don't freak out about the title. I know things look bleak. You're stocking up on shotgun shells and Dinty Moore Beef Stew, dreading the day you inevitably have to pitchfork-fight a hobo over the last piece of firewood in the Hooverville. Hell, you might even be thinking that Kanye West was wrong for once: maybe "The Good Life" isn't all that. Maybe the mass pursuit of diamond-spackled grills, champagne Jacuzzis and McMansions the size of Vatican City was not actually the happiness we totally had the right to pursue.

This past year, we learned that karma is a bitch. That Wall Street is run by Hamburglars. The government is basically too many pigs at too small a trough. That we're broke, at war(s) and, instead of dealing with it, we've chosen to watch celebrities dance, dance, dance for the bloodthirsty hordes. We torture to make ourselves feel safer, cheat each other to make ourselves richer and have generally behaved like raging assholes.

I get all that, and still I say with total and utter conviction: America is awesome. And we're awesome because we are batshit, out of our minds crazy. The French are intellectuals, the Russians are brooders and the Chinese are hard workers. Americans are crazy. Our optimism, ambition, and self-interest verges on the manic.

Think about it - we're a country of over 300 million people, and each of us is told, and honestly, earnestly believes that we're special. That we have a right to pursue happiness. There's no guarantee that happiness will ever happen. We're just cleared to chase, lunge and claw after that happiness, like an eternal dangling carrot. Our dreams matter. This is pounded into us. It is part of our collective DNA. Everyone is special. We believe it, even if it isn't true.

When we succeed, we succeed big (see: the Empire State Building, Moon landing, cheese-stuffed pizza crust). When we fail, we fail big (see: the Great Depression, Slavery, Spider-man 3). We lurch and strive and aspire to greatness. Other countries fear us (not just because we have over 7,000 tactical nukes, though how utterly crazy is that?). They fear us, mainly, because we are an experiment, and experiments can explode. Or they can go on a rampage, like Frankenstein's monster.

Frankenstien might actually be the closest cultural predecessor. America isn't a democracy where majority rules. We're an anti-tyranny-ocracy. We're terrified of tyranny, no matter what form it takes: the government, the free market, your neighbors. The mob can never fully be trusted. Don't tread on me. Get off my lawn. The forefathers had total faith in two things: "freedom" and "people are jerks." They knew that power corrupts, and so they created a system where power is like a bacon-grease slathered football: slippery.

Checks and balances, filibusters and the rule of law. Eventually, the person who's got the power will drop it. And then there's a madcap, sometimes vicious scramble. Then someone has the football again. Repeat.

I like to think of myself as a Patriot. I know that's kind of cheesy, but I've OD'd on snark recently. Sorry internet, but pure, uncut ironic disaffection has become an inadequate coping mechanism. I am not a bible-thumping, jingoistic redneck with the stars and stripes tattooed over generous man boobs. Nor am I an effete, pseudo-intellectual hipster with smooth, manicured hands who blames America for inventing cancer, earthquakes and human vices. But I am a Patriot, because this country gives me the right to be off my rocker.

Let me define my Patriotism: I think America is awesome the way the Whos in Whoville think Christmas is awesome. A Grinch can steal all the accouterments of patrio-eroticism --the flag, the eagle, the Statue of Liberty. And like the Whos, who didn't require gifts or a tree to celebrate Christmas, I will happily salute the idea that defines "America."

And that idea is basically that I get to say this: I am John DeVore and you are not. I am a right wing pinko, a militant centrist, a control freak anarchist. I believe in gun rights and gay rights. I want gays to experience the joys of divorce, and I want them to be well armed. I am a Texan, which means I'm the American equivalent of a Klingon. But I live in Queens, New York, one of the most ethnically diverse places on Earth. My local dive bar is the United Nations. I'm a half-Mexican/half-redneck, who was raised both a Catholic and a Baptist. How many countries does that happen in? It happens here like ... all the time. I'm not even the weirdest multicultural mutt out there - we elected one for president.

I have dreams, and I work my ass off stumbling in the general direction of those dreams. And all I ask is this: If I tell you to get off my lawn, get off my lawn. If I don't tell you to get off my lawn, come on in! Let's drink beer and play Xbox. I am one of approximately 301,139,947 other people who all think they are special. Are we all really special? Who knows. Probably not. It's a savage world and life is cheap. But we think we are. That's what counts.

I'm not excusing our excesses and mistakes. Actions have consequences, and even America is not immune to that fundamental fact of nature. We all go down together. But we're still awesome, not down for the count. It is a dark time for the rebel alliance. But our adaptability and individuality will succeed. Each of us will succeed, alone and together. We can't count on politicians because, let's face it, they are glorified sanitation workers. Count, instead, on the Awesomeness of America: our pursuit will not be deterred or delayed. Don't call it a comeback.

Winston Churchill once wrote "Always count on America to do the right thing, after they've exhausted every other option." Well we've done everything except the right thing for a nice long stretch of time and we're, if nothing else, exhausted. Looks like we're well on our way ladies and gents!

Relevantish and awesome

[Izzy]

The forecast of the world has been grim for the past few thousand years now.

I blame religious belief of the coming of end of days.

QUICK SOMEONE LIGHT THE NEOSUTRA SIGNAL!!!!!!!!

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9575/neowb5.jpg

[Kuya]

The forecast of the world has been grim for the past few thousand years now.

I blame religious belief of the coming of end of days.

I was referring to the recent financial crisis.

[Hellfury]

I am/was well aware of your intent, my emphasis/point was to draw the line from further back, via your statement to the future, but phrased myself very poorly.
(can I play the 3rd language card?)

[Zilong]

I was referring to the recent financial crisis.

I lived in Indonesia for like 13 years.

I've seen dollars went from 2k rupiah to 16k rupiah during the Asian Monetary crisis like 9 years ago. We had a corrupt military dictatorial government until it was overthrown (Then again I haven't kept with indonesian politics since I left, so who knows, maybe it's still that). It caused one hell of a economical and political unrest.

Despite all that, nothing really changes over the next 9 years beside the secession of east timor of the indonesian provinces, and those people has been secessionist long before all that anyway.

Now, that is a 3rd world country, with worse economical and political state than the U.S. would ever be within my lifetime, yet they didn't break down or anything.

Which lead me to believe, that the notion the U.S. will break down by 2010 is just a crackpot theory. I'd find the forecast that Uwe Boll will be making good movies in 2010 more believable.

[LD]

Everyone involved with our current system of government is far too comfortable with it to change anything, especially this drastically. There are far too many deterrents, penalties and benefits in place to maintain the status quo and funnel money into the higher levels of government that an entire state, much less multiple states, would attempt to break off simply by saying 'No.'


That isn't to say America will never fall, I'm just saying when it happens, we'll all go down.

[bebeci]

Hah, so Alaska will go back to Russia, even tho Canada is right there, physically connected to it.
Then you want Canada to absorb the northern US.

Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay...

[Kuya]

I lived in Indonesia for like 13 years.

I've seen dollars went from 2k rupiah to 16k rupiah during the Asian Monetary crisis like 9 years ago. We had a corrupt military dictatorial government until it was overthrown (Then again I haven't kept with indonesian politics since I left, so who knows, maybe it's still that). It caused one hell of a economical and political unrest.

Despite all that, nothing really changes over the next 9 years beside the secession of east timor of the indonesian provinces, and those people has been secessionist long before all that anyway.

Now, that is a 3rd world country, with worse economical and political state than the U.S. would ever be within my lifetime, yet they didn't break down or anything.

Which lead me to believe, that the notion the U.S. will break down by 2010 is just a crackpot theory. I'd find the forecast that Uwe Boll will be making good movies in 2010 more believable.

Maybe not, but 2009 will not be a better year than 2008.

[Zilong]

We'll manage somehow, beside we have more than enough nuke to hold the world hostage for one million dollars if it comes down to that.

http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_...as_Dr_Evil.jpg

[Mizango]

QUICK SOMEONE LIGHT THE NEOSUTRA SIGNAL!!!!!!!!

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9575/neowb5.jpg

HAHA I have to admit that was fucking bad ass Izzy.

Neo aggro inc..