Magic Damage Reduction

[Suiram]

No known cap to MDB. Look at it this way, if you could have magic damage taken -100%, you'd take 0 damage from all magic. If you had MDB+100, you'd take 50% damage, so there doesn't need to be a cap for it in the way there needs to be one for damage taken.

[Thorny]

Enhancing skill affects the duration of Shell and Protect, not it's effectiveness.

actually, it doesn't.. 30 min flat regardless, and aren't you a career whm?

[Kriz]

actually, it doesn't.. 30 min flat regardless, and aren't you a career whm?

Lessen your target isn't of the appropriate level. Easily seen when a 74 or lower gets Shellra V'd, it wears like 30 seconds before. Hmm, seems like that'd be something I'd like to know more about, if there is a relationship between levels under and time (like, levels under 75 x 30 seconds) for when I get super bored...

[Ultimagi]

Magic Defense Bonus caps at +50 and Magic Damage Taken caps at -50%.

[Pendulum]

Magic Defense Bonus caps at +50

Although I can't seem to find a job that can reach +50 MDB with gear and traits (highest I can make on ffxigear.kicks-ass.org is a whm with 23 gear and 16 trait for +39).

I've never heard of a cap on MDB from people I trust on magic dmg (Suiram and Valyana), so I doubt it.

[Ultimagi]

Saline Coat.

[Kriz]

Although I can't seem to find a job that can reach +50 MDB with gear and traits (highest I can make on ffxigear.kicks-ass.org is a whm with 23 gear and 16 trait for +39).

I've never heard of a cap on MDB from people I trust on magic dmg (Suiram and Valyana), so I doubt it.

A quick hit up of FFXIAH Power Search shows you can almost hit it if you were some kind of insane obsessed WHM.

16 Trait
Dalmatica+1, Ataratic Solea, Storm Turban (6+4+2) for 12
or Goliard set (wiki has as 10, pretty sure this was verified)
Static Earring, Resolute Belt, Grammary Cape (2+2+2) for 6
Volunteer's Ring and Unfettered (3+2) for 5
Kebbie staff for 5
Shadow Ring for 10 on Darksdays (hah)

Not something most people will end up having access to. Everything except the Shadow Ring and the Dalm/Solea/Turban aren't impossible to get, though. So you could scrimp together ~42 if you wanted to.

[Thorny]

Lessen your target isn't of the appropriate level. Easily seen when a 74 or lower gets Shellra V'd, it wears like 30 seconds before. Hmm, seems like that'd be something I'd like to know more about, if there is a relationship between levels under and time (like, levels under 75 x 30 seconds) for when I get super bored...

I was actually under the impression that didn't apply to shellra/protectra 5, I used shellra while PLing on a level 15 before and it stuck >_> positive phalanx2 was full duration too, also used while PLing.. but lower protects/shells, haste, and refresh definitely have a cut duration.

[Indalecia]

Also, Barspells aren't MDB per se, only just when using Blessed Briault or if you have the merits do you get the MDB bonus.

[Xanthe]

Lessen your target isn't of the appropriate level. Easily seen when a 74 or lower gets Shellra V'd, it wears like 30 seconds before. Hmm, seems like that'd be something I'd like to know more about, if there is a relationship between levels under and time (like, levels under 75 x 30 seconds) for when I get super bored...

Duration of any enhancing spell for targets under the spell level is (Character Level)/(Spell Level) * (Spell Duration). So a level 74 character would lose the effect of Shellra V 24 seconds earlier than a level 75 character.

I was actually under the impression that didn't apply to shellra/protectra 5, I used shellra while PLing on a level 15 before and it stuck >_> positive phalanx2 was full duration too, also used while PLing.. but lower protects/shells, haste, and refresh definitely have a cut duration.

Shellra V would last exactly 6 minutes on a level 15 character.

[Ultimagi]

(Character Level)/(Spell Level)

You forgot to mention that this ratio caps at 1.

[Xanthe]

You forgot to mention that this ratio caps at 1.

Duration of any enhancing spell for targets under the spell level

Actually I didn't.

[Valyana]

I've never heard of a cap on MDB before, and don't see a reason to have one since it already gives decreasing returns. SE has done stupider things, but I'd want to see tests.

[Linktri]

Shell and Protect have reduced durations based on (iirc) the target's level and the caster's Enhancing Magic skill level. I've even seen Shellra V and Protectra V wear off of my merit party a few moments (not lag) prior to it wearing on me with no level difference.

If a level 20 WHM with 0 Enhancing skill casts Protect I on a level 75 toon it should wear prior to the same level 20 WHM with capped Enhancing skill casting Protect I on the same level 75 toon.

It doesn't really matter much though since I don't think I've ever heard of a lower level WHM with ludicrously poor Enfeebling skill casting buffs on a higher level player.

[Suiram]

I've never heard of a cap on MDB before, and don't see a reason to have one since it already gives decreasing returns. SE has done stupider things, but I'd want to see tests.

As far as I know there's no known cap. Ultimagi says there is, but he also says it's MDB+50 along with something cryptic about Saline Coat, meanwhile VZX has posted CB damage screenshots with MDB+60 (job trait + saline coat) where the damage works out mathematically on the assumption that there is no such cap. So I'm inclined to believe that Ultimagi is mistaken.

[matt4684]

A quick hit up of FFXIAH Power Search shows you can almost hit it if you were some kind of insane obsessed WHM.

16 Trait
Dalmatica+1, Ataratic Solea, Storm Turban (6+4+2) for 12
or Goliard set (wiki has as 10, pretty sure this was verified)
Static Earring, Resolute Belt, Grammary Cape (2+2+2) for 6
Volunteer's Ring and Unfettered (3+2) for 5
Kebbie staff for 5
Shadow Ring for 10 on Darksdays (hah)

Not something most people will end up having access to. Everything except the Shadow Ring and the Dalm/Solea/Turban aren't impossible to get, though. So you could scrimp together ~42 if you wanted to.

I'm 0/11 on that damn turban. I have a good magic damage taken set planned out but I can't find crap for neck or legs (preferably with no -enm due to some weird desire to try to tank a magic spammy mob as whm) other than prudence torque for the massive effect 5 INT has on MDT from nukes. Any ideas for either slot?

Set (ambitious version) is here:
- FFXIAH.com

[Shinryuu]

I think you should focus a bit more on magic damage taken -% and less on magic defense bonus; the first one caps at 50% and you'll get -27% or so from Shellra V.

Honestly though, no clue how much MDT a WHM can feasibly get.

[matt4684]

Other than a pair of merman's rings which are, admittedly, infinitely easier to get than shadow ring and volunteer's, I can't really come up with any other MDT items equippable as a WHM

[Suiram]

Assuming you use one merman's earring in the list you mentioned, and have shell 5 5/5, you should take 14% less damage if you replace the two rings you named with merman's, the static with merman's, and the resolute belt with lieutenant's sash.

If you use shadow coat it'd be even better, and obviously defending/minerva ring, which WHM can also equip, but I left all of those out because I didn't know if you did Einherjar, and I assume you are unlikely to get those rings.

[Shinryuu]

Yuck, you're right. Shadow/Valkyrie coat, Defending ring, Minerva's ring... ouch.