Lost: Season 5

[SubzeroDiabolos]

Ya I agree she's pretty but she's kinda got a wierd face, when she's smiling you're wondering if she's "smiling" or giving you a "wtf are you talking about" face lol.

[Revitozu]

- Sayid shot ben, opening 2983457 questions and possibilities.

I quote myself. I've thought for a few bits about this, and reduces it to 1194 possibilities! Remember in season3, YouTube - Flashes Before Your Eyes / Ms Hawking & Desmond, when Eloise Hawking said "the universe has a way of course-correcting itself"? How she could warn a man not to do walk under a scafulding, but he'd be hit by a Taxi the next day.

I think that'll be what is going on with Ben being shot. Although, it's slightly different. Sayid tried to change the course of history, but the universe will 'course correct' itself into being 'correct'. :X

Aside from the episodes being awesome, anyone notice Juliet is looking especially gorgeous in E09 and E10? Good lord...

I've always thought she was gorgeous. Probably just more so because she's living in the baracks again, can take regular showers and all.

[ZarakiKujata]

Anyone else feel this episode didn't have much in it? Aside from the obvious ending, that is.

Three 'big' things happened.
- We learned how Sayid ended up in handcuffs.
- We learned a bit on the lady who PUT him in handcuffs.
- Sayid shot ben, opening 2983457 questions and possibilities.

There wasn't any "Oh, woah, did you see that?" like there has been in previous episodes. Maybe I'm just a fan of that.

Favourite part went something like...
Ben: "John Locke is dead."
Sayid: "How?"
Ben: "I don't know, I think he was murdered."

Most Lost episodes not written by CC/DL are like this with fewer "HOLY FUCKING SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT" moments, and they need to have a few slower character development episodes that keep that the part of the fanbase just interested in that hooked(like my Grandma who has been bitchin up a storm about this season so far lol). But I'd disagree we learned some interesting tidbits imo (some of which were probably obvious but its nice when shits spelled out)
#1 Why Sayid was angry at Ben when he came back to LA after Locke's death
#2 Who specifically the people Sayid killed for Ben were (I dont remember them saying they were Widmore's men in "The Economist") + Why didn't he order Sayid to kill Widmore/Penny?
#3 Someone ordered the female bounty hunter to specifically put Sayid on that flight (leaving it open that shes really working for Widmore or Ben since I would think they are the only ones to know he killed Avellino and not his family..)
#4 Development of Kate in the Kate/Jack/Juliet/Sawyer love square/circle
#5 When Sayid was confessing and started talking about stuff he mentions the incident, I felt like it had already happened since no Dharma people asked what incident.
But yeah, CC/DL said this season would have 3 major arcs, this is just the character development in Dharma times when until they start building to the finale climax

[0ni0n]

Last night's episode was progressing in a way that I knew Sayid would shoot Ben before he actually did so, especially when he told the bounty hunter that Ben is a manipulative sob who committed crimes equivalent to genocide.

The episode ended on an interesting note. The fact that Sayid didn't disappear right after shooting Ben insinuates two possibilities. One, the young Ben isn't dead yet, and was saved by some amulet or pocket watch that he had on him. Second, if Ben was indeed killed by that shot, Sayid, Jack and others who time-traveled back to 1977 are on a different timeline, otherwise the grand-father paradox regarding the space and time will have been triggered. That said, everyone who was brought back to the island by Ben would have disappeared right at the moment Ben was shot and killed because he never had the chance to grow up to 2008 and do what he had done with everyone.

[ZarakiKujata]

Spoiler: show

He's not dead yet.. next episode is about Kate trying to convince Jack to save his life I assume for all the pime taradox issues his death would raise

[0ni0n]

Spoiler: show

He's not dead yet.. next episode is about Kate trying to convince Jack to save his life I assume for all the pime taradox issues his death would raise

Sayid didn't finish up Ben off must have meant that he felt ambivalent about killing Ben. He wanted to kill him but the act of getting rid of him would have deprived of much meaning from his own life since frankly, killing is what Sayid is good at and he just spent much of the last 3 years killing people for Ben. Without Ben, his life would have been much more lackadaisical. At the end, he walked up to Ben who lay bleeding and didn't finish him off could be indicative of Sayid leaving it to fate. Should Ben die from his wounds, destiny wields it and everything ends there. Should he somehow be saved, Sayid would become the tool of the devil, but in the absent of guilt and self-blame because he did shoot Ben with the intention of killing him. He's an interesting character to say the least.

[Dimmauk]

I wanna try what they gave Sayid. I thought it was a great episode. Ben isnt dead.

[Kaylia]

I kinda thought Sayid might die this episode. Looks like they are going with flashbacks for the rest of the season? It was just bouncing from the two groups up until now I think.

First 7 episodes told the story of oceanic 6 people through flashback >_>. The only real flashback was the one with kid Sayid.

I think that'll be what is going on with Ben being shot. Although, it's slightly different. Sayid tried to change the course of history, but the universe will 'course correct' itself into being 'correct'. :X

+ Ben get a bonus "dream-like" memories.

[Karshe]

Definitely my least favorite episode of the season... but I'm not a big fan of Sayid.

I feel like his story has reached its conclusion... he's a killer, we get it. We got it several seasons ago. The only part of his story I'm even remotely interested in now is the events involving Nadia's death.

I was half expecting Sayid to die last night. Sacrifice himself in order to maintain the secret of his friends.

[SubzeroDiabolos]

I'm not sure Sayid could die considering he's in the past, if he dies that means he's not gonna return to the island 30 years later, won't know about it's existence, won't leave it and won't return try to return to it.

[Lordwafik]

Poor baby ben, I really like ben's character overall, and seeing innocent child ben getting shot just made me go

[Revitozu]

Most Lost episodes not written by CC/DL are like this with fewer "HOLY FUCKING SHIT DID YOU SEE THAT" moments, and they need to have a few slower character development episodes that keep that the part of the fanbase just interested in that hooked(like my Grandma who has been bitchin up a storm about this season so far lol). But I'd disagree we learned some interesting tidbits imo (some of which were probably obvious but its nice when shits spelled out)

I suppose you're right, they need to balance out the mythological crazy part of the island with the character story and development.

Still really curious about this 'journey' Christian Shepherd tells Sun she needs to go on. =O

[Epical]

Poor baby ben, I really like ben's character overall, and seeing innocent child ben getting shot just made me go

It was more the fact that he was so good-natured too. Had good intentions, true innocence. Between this and his father, I can see this being the thing that turned him into the scheming man he is today.

[Auspice]

I'm not sure Sayid could die considering he's in the past, if he dies that means he's not gonna return to the island 30 years later, won't know about it's existence, won't leave it and won't return try to return to it.

Huh? He's already crashed on the island; just because he moved back in time doesn't mean he hasn't already spent his time on the island when the show started.

[Hitoshura]

It was more the fact that he was so good-natured too. Had good intentions, true innocence. Between this and his father, I can see this being the thing that turned him into the scheming man he is today.

Yeah it was another one of those heart sinking moments. He really didn't deserve that.. after getting blamed for his mother's death by his father and getting abused. It was really sad to see him drop dead, but good to know that apparently he isn't. >.>

I am never going to read a spoiler again. I don't see how you guys could heh, even though I am a spoiler.

[Tomiko]

Some notes from the official podcast.

LOST Spoilers: Official ABC Podcast and Video

Stuff to expect this season: (Shouldn't be too spoilerish)

Spoiler: show

We'll see the four-toed statue from the front this season.
Ben will explain explicitly why he killed Locke.
Miles will reveal why Ben wanted $3.2 million this season.
Whatever Happened, Happened contains Kate flashbacks

[Epical]

Some notes from the official podcast.

LOST Spoilers: Official ABC Podcast and Video

Stuff to expect this season: (Shouldn't be too spoilerish)

Spoiler: show

We'll see the four-toed statue from the front this season.
Ben will explain explicitly why he killed Locke.
Miles will reveal why Ben wanted $3.2 million this season.
Whatever Happened, Happened contains Kate flashbacks

See I like reading little insightful things like this, they make me look forward to the rest of the season even more. =D

[Jer]

I kinda thought Sayid might die this episode. Looks like they are going with flashbacks for the rest of the season? It was just bouncing from the two groups up until now I think.

I guess it would make sense for the time being. When they started doing the flash-forwards they were all in the time leading up to their return to The Island, and now they are back.

That is not to say they are finished with the flash-forwards altogether.

[Null]

Btw, that image of Sun in the Cabin and there being a women in the background was a mistake according to the show. They themselves said they were trying to figure out who it was because a crew member must've still been in the shot.

[Epical]

Btw, that image of Sun in the Cabin and there being a women in the background was a mistake according to the show. They themselves said they were trying to figure out who it was because a crew member must've still been in the shot.

The way she flipped her head around made it look like she was trying to be all creepy/hidden. Also they way she was laid out in the camera angle looked like a typical JJ shot where you're supposed to pick up on something that isn't the center of attention. Not calling them liars, but it's extremely believable heh...