Lost: Season 5

[Insanecyclone]

Safe to say the Island is the Garden of Eden?

[AzazaelFenrir]

I kinda thought the shirt was purple. . .


I am really interested to see where this goes next year.

[Tits]

Safe to say the Island is the Garden of Eden?

No. Isaac (and by extension, Jacob and Esau) lived in Canaan. Jacob settled with his wives in Egypt.

If they follow a biblical theme, I'm guessing that everyone touched by Jacob is marked as one of the 12 (tribes/children.)

[Kupo-lox]

Did yall also notice that Jacob touched everyone he visited?

yeah, and everyone he touched wont die, IMHO. He didnt touch Syiad or Juliet.

I think Ben becomes "Jacob" was a great show, had me on the edge of the couch.

[Sheebs]

This alllll goes back to something I talked about pages ago that relates to the bible. Jacob had a brother. Maybe that is his brother. But there are different variations of the story. In one variation they were rivals, and they could not kill one another. They had to have somebody else kill them but not buy bribing or anything, the person that did it had to have wanted to kill him. So that is why he talked Ben into doing it and gave him reasons.

This could be a plausible explanation for the man in black and that rivarly they have going on.
Time frame may fit as well.

Notice the older clothing at the beginning, the egyptian hieroglyphs and the statue. BTW the statue is not Ra (the sun god) but looks like Anubis, which is the god of the underworld.....maybe they are all in purgatory..
Anubis link Anubis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think Richard is from the egyptian times, something about that eyeliner...

The ship seemed to be a later time period that Jacob and man in black were living in on the island. It seemed more of a columbus era ship.

I think this is creating a 12 monkeys type time loop... Jacob and man in black were discussing things like it all ends the same but Jacob said there was "progress". If the timeframe did reset and Jacob and man in black are old bilblical figures or demigods then they would have the previous knowledge on what to do or what not to do the next round.

What language was Richard and that woman speaking when she asked what lies in the shadow? Latin? Spanish?

[Tits]

I wonder how many times the producers have to explicitly state that it has nothing to do with Purgatory for people to actually believe it?

[Weltall]

Go watch the episode on ABCs website, If you dont think its blue before he sits down then you sir are the retard. Im not even saying the color has any significance. Only reason i brought it up was because a few people were confused about who "the man in black" was.

What this guy said ^

Xopher, you are the retard if you think it was black. Go watch the beginning of the show in HD, or whatever, and it is clearly blue/darkblue/purple/hauberk

[Karshe]

yeah, and everyone he touched wont die, IMHO. He didnt touch Syiad or Juliet.

He touched Sayid while asking for directions, while Nadia was standing in the intersection.

That said, I kinda hope he stays dead. I feel like Sayid (and Juliet, unfortunately) have both reached the end of their story arcs.

[KoalaTrap]

This could be a plausible explanation for the man in black and that rivarly they have going on.
Time frame may fit as well.

Notice the older clothing at the beginning, the egyptian hieroglyphs and the statue. BTW the statue is not Ra (the sun god) but looks like Anubis, which is the god of the underworld.....maybe they are all in purgatory..
Anubis link Anubis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As shown in the page previous. It's not Anubis because the statue has a crocodile snout, not a dog's. Taweret ~ Goddess of fertility

Blue/black it's no matter what it is. It's still dark clothing vs Jacob's light clothing and still fits into the dark/white contrasting theme.

[CaptainKacy]

I dont know if anyone has said anything about this yet, I havent read every post so far. But about jacob touching everyone, I kinda took it from the scene where lock fell that he might have been dead or about to die when jacob touched him. Looked like he wasnt breathing untill he was touched.

[Sheebs]

I wonder how many times the producers have to explicitly state that it has nothing to do with Purgatory for people to actually believe it?

I wasn't the person who put the eygptian god of the underworld as the most prominent feature on the island....

[KoalaTrap]

I dont know if anyone has said anything about this yet, I havent read every post so far. But about jacob touching everyone, I kinda took it from the scene where lock fell that he might have been dead or about to die when jacob touched him. Looked like he wasnt breathing untill he was touched.

Yeah it looked like Jacob revived him. It really seems like Jacob has been expecting this attack by his rival for a long time. If he didn't save John then it couldn't have happened. I guess we need more info to understand why Jacob visited all these characters at some point and what events he is trying to set in motion. Season 6 will tell all!

[Sheebs]

As shown in the page previous. It's not Anubis because the statue has a crocodile snout, not a dog's. Taweret ~ Goddess of fertility

Blue/black it's no matter what it is. It's still dark clothing vs Jacob's light clothing and still fits into the dark/white contrasting theme.

I saw 2 statues, 1 of anubis and 1 of another egyptian god. (fertility). I saw a front shot, and that is a dogs head, the skirt and ankh match anubis as well.

[Tits]

I wasn't the person who put the eygptian god of the underworld as the most prominent feature on the island....

But you are the one to interpret it to be Purgatory, a level of hell that exists in Christ-following religions. To the best of my knowledge, and after a few google searches, purgatory does not exist to the Egyptians.

[Sheebs]

But you are the one to interpret it to be Purgatory, a level of hell that exists in Christ-following religions. To the best of my knowledge, and after a few google searches, purgatory does not exist to the Egyptians.

True, death was an underworld, another realm. Purgatory is a later religious concept. But I think it is important to consider the egyptian symbology scattered all over the island, on the temples, in the statues and on the tapestry Jacob weaves.

I also don't think Taweret is the statue because Lostpedia says the statue has been referred to in masculine terms, and Taweret's defining feature is a swollen belly (hence the fertility).
Upon more research Sobek is a better fit for this statue, due to the lack of ears pointing to anubis. This explains the teeth and the dual ankhs.
Interesting read on Sobek http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/sobek.htm, notice the references in the mythology to "Horus".

[Arvin]

i just watched it for the 4th time




my mind is so blown

[Hitoshura]

So the man at the start talking with Jacob = smoke monster. That is awesome, so fucking awesome. I want to know more about him and how he came to be the monster. He said told Jacob he had no idea how badly he wanted to kill him and something about a loophole.

So does anybody know what the translation was when Richard answered "what lies beyond the shadow of the statue"?

[Insanecyclone]

[grantlogan]

So the man at the start talking with Jacob = smoke monster. That is awesome, so fucking awesome. I want to know more about him and how he came to be the monster. He said told Jacob he had no idea how badly he wanted to kill him and something about a loophole.

So does anybody know what the translation was when Richard answered "what lies beyond the shadow of the statue"?

Wait, what? When did MIB become the smoke monster?

[Hitoshura]

Wait, what? When did MIB become the smoke monster?

You are talking about the man with the grey hair at the beginning right? Well it isn't confirmed but that's what I think. He said he wanted to kill Jacob and something about a loophole, so why wouldn't he be the smoke monster?

Edit: Actually in that post right above you, click on that video and go to 19.