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    BP is pretty worthless anyways(ignoring the fact that it's worthless to begin with), there's a method for never taking BP loss on a loss(not just the standard DC one), so you'll see lots of scrubs with 99% win rates and high BP ratings soon. I stopped playing ranked for this reason alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darus Grey View Post
    BP is pretty worthless anyways(ignoring the fact that it's worthless to begin with), there's a method for never taking BP loss on a loss(not just the standard DC one), so you'll see lots of scrubs with 99% win rates and high BP ratings soon. I stopped playing ranked for this reason alone.
    It's all about getting a few good matches in with friends anyways. People I play on SF4 will be people I play with for hours, not just acouple of matches.

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    This game seriously need lobbies that can hold more than 2 people... HD remix is great in this.

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    Championship update coming that will provide tournament style matches.

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    Does anyone wanna play that doesn't FUCKING LAG. I am fed up with this shit tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabubeezareel View Post
    Any other Zangief fans out there? I find the 360/720 motions ridiculously easy to pull off with the analog stick on the normal xbox controller, and his lariats seem to have crazy priority. I've barely played any SF game in years, but have gone like 20-5 in ranked matches since I started using him, with like 80% of those fights against shotos. Seems like every Ken user out there fights in the exact same, predictable style. Absolutely love blocking a hurricane kick from a mile away and countering it with a Final Atomic Buster.
    I've gone Zangeif main since SFII Turbo and never looked back. Hell, I've always use wrestler type characters in just about every fighting game I play. The Ken players are starting to thin out in the arcades, but the remaining ones are starting to improve. The only thing that bothers me is I'll go on a winning streak and get overconfident until I run into a good Ken or Ryu player.
    I play it smart against Chun-Li, Sagat, Rog, and the occasional Vega but Rufus and Viper seem to throw me off my game. I'm not used to them yet. Also, I'm tired of seeing Guile players that turtle, people need to get a clue and realize how much of a combo beast he is.

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    Wow, tonight playing for about 3 hours, I fought zero flowchart Kens! I think they might be finally going away ;o

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    I don't bother playing online anymore because I switched over from Sagat to Dhalsim and any bit of lag owns me because I am unable to instant air teleport effectively

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    I need some help here. Be patient since this is the first fighting game I'm trying to take semi-seriously.

    I'm still having trouble against players who just spam projectiles when playing as Viper. I understand that I'll have trouble with Sagat players already but it's getting under my skin when some people realize I'm a little threatening at close range and just stay far away. The only huge ground covering move I know of with her is EX Knuckles and it isn't like I can spam that. Does she have any moves like Boxer or Cammy that can go around fireballs? I've tried S.Hammer but I can't get the attack off before the thing hits me. I'm getting sick of being punished for jumping over them which I know isn't a good tactic anyway.

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    FADC fireballs -or- jump straight up to avoid them. Also you can do that ground pound move she has (dp motion?) while they are still in the Hadoken annimation. It hits low, and will surprise noobs. Dash forward and start your pressure game whenever you can score a knockdown. Try to avoid jumping into the inevitable shoryuken wake-up.

    If your fireball defense is good enough, most fireball spammers will get a heavy case of A.D.D. impatientce and come at you looking to mix it up close. This will be your chance.

    Props for maining Viper btw. need to see more of her, i hear shes still climbing up on the tier ladder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faxanadu View Post
    FADC fireballs -or- jump straight up to avoid them. Also you can do that ground pound move she has (dp motion?) while they are still in the Hadoken annimation. It hits low, and will surprise noobs. Dash forward and start your pressure game whenever you can score a knockdown. Try to avoid jumping into the inevitable shoryuken wake-up.

    If your fireball defense is good enough, most fireball spammers will get a heavy case of A.D.D. impatientce and come at you looking to mix it up close. This will be your chance.

    Props for maining Viper btw. need to see more of her, i hear shes still climbing up on the tier ladder.
    Yeah, at Final Round the top 10 was 3 Rufus and 2 Viper. Rufus has made his way to top tier already imo. He has triangle-isk type jump which is much, MUCH better than Cammy's garbage one. He also has extremely good anti-air.

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    I finally got brave enough to try out online play on my PS3...and oh man do I suck lol. Been so long since I religiously played fighters and it shows.

    Wish I had the money to drop on a good stick because the D-Pad is far to inconsistent and slow. Not that it will magically make me better, but it sure isn't helping my cause when I pull off the wrong move or completely fail it or am too late for it to be effective.

    Right now I've been maining Sakura. I always played Ryu and Chun Li a lot back in the SFII days and she seems to be a good mix in between the two. Hopefully I can start to be somewhat competitive online in the future, but still having fun trying to basically re-train myself from scratch.

    PSN is ndtex07 is anyone is interested in beating the crap outta me. Donno how much it'll be worth it around here though, seeing as most people posting have a good BP rating and mine is uh...0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stiker View Post
    I finally got brave enough to try out online play on my PS3...and oh man do I suck lol. Been so long since I religiously played fighters and it shows.

    Wish I had the money to drop on a good stick because the D-Pad is far to inconsistent and slow. Not that it will magically make me better, but it sure isn't helping my cause when I pull off the wrong move or completely fail it or am too late for it to be effective.

    Right now I've been maining Sakura. I always played Ryu and Chun Li a lot back in the SFII days and she seems to be a good mix in between the two. Hopefully I can start to be somewhat competitive online in the future, but still having fun trying to basically re-train myself from scratch.

    PSN is ndtex07 is anyone is interested in beating the crap outta me. Donno how much it'll be worth it around here though, seeing as most people posting have a good BP rating and mine is uh...0.
    You have to play good people to get better. I'll play with you tonight since I play Sakura too you may learn a bit. Is there a time you would like to set to play some?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    Yeah, at Final Round the top 10 was 3 Rufus and 2 Viper. Rufus has made his way to top tier already imo. He has triangle-isk type jump which is much, MUCH better than Cammy's garbage one. He also has extremely good anti-air.
    Well thats the only way Cammy can cross up reliably, her s.k. is mostly luck based on wether it crosses up or completly whiffs. I mostly use it as a surprise move, or to try to combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    You have to play good people to get better. I'll play with you tonight since I play Sakura too you may learn a bit. Is there a time you would like to set to play some?
    Sadly I don't think I'll have any set time until maybe Saturday or Sunday.

    I did however notice a clear line between some fighters. Fought a TON of flowchart Ken's for instance, but faced one guy that really knew what he was doing with Ken and I couldn't even make it a match lol. I did fight one Sakura that was solid and I got pretty well spanked.

    I started to fight a bit better as the night went on. I tend to fly in with reckless abandon too much. Still trying to learn how to counter certain strategies and such. Doesn't help that my defense is God-awful most of the time too. More often than not, I'll mistime counters, drop my guard and end up getting smacked.

    Like I said, it is a lot of retraining my reflexes and timing right now. Reminds me of playing in the arcades when I was younger. Thankfully this time, I'm not wasting as much money losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faxanadu View Post
    Well thats the only way Cammy can cross up reliably, her s.k. is mostly luck based on wether it crosses up or completly whiffs. I mostly use it as a surprise move, or to try to combo.
    Yes, but I like how Rufus' triangle forces opponent to block low where you can either grab, LP, or overhead. It opens up a lot of options. Heck, you could also just spam 2-3 of the triangles in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octopus View Post
    Wow, tonight playing for about 3 hours, I fought zero flowchart Kens! I think they might be finally going away ;o
    Replying to myself!

    So HD Remix was apparently patched two days ago. I guess maybe they all went that way ;o

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    I blame Daigo for all the Ken's in SF4...... he is garbage on 4 imo.

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    If Ken had his SF3 Super (or Ultra as the case may be in this game) combo, he'd be soooooo much better, but he's still one of my preferential characters.

    Mostly a tossup between Ken/Bison/Zangief for me atm, but Zangief is dangerous with all the people who like to play Sagat, since he's fucking trash against him. I find myself sticking to Bison alot more lately, because most of the playerbase seems to have real issues dealing with his Devil Press.

    I guess I forgot to tack it on, but my PSN is Krandor311 if anyone wants to play with me.

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    True that everyone new to the scene uses Ken purely out of the epicness that Daigo wielded in EVO, most of the vids I've seen Daigo use Ryu though since hes powerful yet more defensive, which you have to have since the introduction of the revenge meter. Most of the other vids I've seen though the tourneys participants avoid using shotos, is it to show more skill or just to avoid shoto bs talk?

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