Street Fighter IV

[Weltall]

If you are playing as Chun and having problems against Sagat the only thing you should have to do is Focus his fireballs and then he should completly stop throwing them because of Chun's Ultra. If he decides to continue to throw them then just Ultra him?

I personally think he is one of the better matchups for Chun. If you play a good Seth or Bison with Chun you got no chance.

[Balb]

^ Yea from a Chun perspective, a good Seth and Bison are scarier than a Sagat. For me, it's really just Seth, partly because I rarely play the matchup. But when you can get in on Seth and make him whiff, ohhhhhh you can punish him handily and enjoy it. The problem of course, is getting in...

Bison block strings make him really tough once inside. Devil's Reverse is a non factor when Chun has ultra. If you can successfully mitigate the close up game, you have a fighting chance, if not, like Welt said goodbye lol...

[richardd]

i hate a good seth with blanka, i feel so useless fighting against him. dictator still gives me a lot of trouble with any character i play, and boxer seems to be a bad matchup with blanka too, imo. oh and i hate blanka/blanka mirror matches to the BONE. UGH.

the characters i dont mind, are sakura, cammy, and ken's.

the characters i get scared against right away with are dhalsim, el fuerte and if i KNOW the guy is skilled, akuma or sagat as well.

[Ryko]

No one likes dittos in any game, truefax.

[richardd]

No one likes dittos in any game, truefax.

iono, i dont mind ryu dittos lol.


blanka is a pain because we're both playing dirty tricks on each other (if the other one is equally/more skilled than me) and he catches me with my own tricks. i know its my fault, but it makes me feel good to blame someone else. amirite?!

[MisterBob]

Yeah, Sagat is a cakewalk. Bison and Blanka give me the most trouble as Chun. To a lesser extent, Honda can be rough when in the hands of a skilled player as well.

[Weltall]

I absolutely hate playing Blanka or Vega. I feel like I am the only person who has problems with Vega......

[Balb]

Maaan I can hold my own against Sagat and all, but I'm not THAT confident enough yet to throw around the term "cakewalk", specially with Chun lol... lower skilled players yea, but skilled sagats know what to look for and avoid. They won't random/wakeup tiger knee/dp unless they're in a hit confirm situation like they should, so they normally can't be baited like noobs.

And no Welt, I have trouble as well. It's prolly the one loss I seriously rage over, because I know I shouldn't lose. The dive/air suplex mixups is what gets me. I know the dive is coming, so I'll try to just block it and tag em with a low roundhouse. But I don't account for the throw, and that's where i'll lose. It's my fault really, I haven't really researched the differences in either move to know which one is coming to react well enough to it. I'm just gonna jump roundhouse it regardless lol...

[Damane]

oh yeah Fuerte, he's such a skittish little bastard.

I actually like playing Claw characters now, they all seem to follow somewhat predictable patterns and don't really adapt at all like a lot of other characters usually do.

Maining Chunners I really like playing (most) shoto characters, can almost always get my ultimate off against them unless they've played against chunners before which apparently isn't that often because i don't see chun players at all really =/

except for Leisli (i forgot your username on bg =/), Leisli's chun wipes the floor with me everytime I play em >_> i'll win eventually

Leisli would be me ^^

you have a hard time against me, because I usually change my tactis often when things start to vade and throw in suddenly some throws etc. This gets you off the guard and confuses you which opens again some possibility to use olde tactics.

I Main Chun. She is the only one. I play sometimes other characters when I see my oponent has big problems going on against my Chun, just for training, thats then usually viper/sakura/shotos.

I hate playing against:
Dhalsims...
fuck that, good Dhalsims that know how to use Spacing at their advantage and can keep you off hurt me the most. I encountered one where I had big problems to even get in, may it be with jumps, kikoken walk behind, focus attack cancels etc. The match was close but man I needed to work to get around there and in the end lost 2 of 3 matches close. Worst nightmare ever for me.

Blankas:
I had first big problems but I am used to them now and can counter most of their attacks, noob blankas that only do roll attacks and electricity are cake, however there are some good blankas out there that play sick mindgames. Now I am not so much worried against blanks, cross-ups usually take very well care of them + their low Stun resistance. Dont give them time to think or even breath, attack attack attack, cross-ups, throws, they wont know what hit them.

Chuns:
Believe it or not, but fighting against a good chun that knows and uses the same playtactis as you is ugh.... you can predict most moves as can your opponent and know all weak spots as knows your opponent. Theese fights usually end in a who focus cancel dash combos best poke festival ¬.¬

Gen:
good Gen players can fuck you hard, nough said (thats mostly also because I counter little to no Gens, but still have a hard time against them).

easiest match up I haves are against:
Zangiefs, That jump up hard kick does wonders on them lol, and keeping them of bay is fucking easy with chun

Bison (Dicator), Air throw against his charge down-up Special moves is the perfect counter and hurts them big, + crossups make them big problems

Vega (Claw), all his air Special moves are so easy to counter with air-throws or focus attack cancels.


Sagat lies between, omg so easy to win ----> omg hard fight to win/loose. It depends on whos hand he is, against tiger spamming sagats I win with a combination of hashanshu, focus attack cancels etc. Once I am in (and that happens fast) they loose.

[Damane]

If you are playing as Chun and having problems against Sagat the only thing you should have to do is Focus his fireballs and then he should completly stop throwing them because of Chun's Ultra. If he decides to continue to throw them then just Ultra him?

I personally think he is one of the better matchups for Chun. If you play a good Seth or Bison with Chun you got no chance.

Bisons are cake with chuns. you can counter most of his airattacks with airthrow or a focus cancel. They will shortly after stop trying to use that somp kick and try to use that flying glowing arme move, but will realise you even can get them there fast :D. then there is only the ground left for them, and chun wins on the ground hands down.

[Krandor]

I absolutely hate playing Blanka or Vega. I feel like I am the only person who has problems with Vega......

My roommate and I are fucking retarded when it comes to fighting back against a good Vega. I've pretty much gotten the mechanics of fighting against Blanka down at this point finally though.

[Scunsion]

HAY ALL YOU SAGAT PROS I DARE YOU TO COME GET A PEICE

[KuaiEQ]

YouTube - Play him off, keyboard cat...

[octopus]

rofl saw this at shoryuken ;o

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[Baha]

Main Cammy, hate Blanka's. Stupid lightning messes up my whole game, but I don't run into them regularly enough to come up with a good strategy to counter. It's refreshing to match up against a non-shoto, but at the same time it's annoying because you run into them so little online. Thus good ones catch you offguard, assrape you and leave hardly any time to learn.

Then again, I'd rather get beat bad with some nice plays than lose closely/stupidly to bandwagon shoto #7891546. Need to get my xbox live renewed and get back to playing, going to be rusty. :/

[Ramor]

If you are playing as Chun and having problems against Sagat the only thing you should have to do is Focus his fireballs and then he should completly stop throwing them because of Chun's Ultra. If he decides to continue to throw them then just Ultra him?

I personally think he is one of the better matchups for Chun. If you play a good Seth or Bison with Chun you got no chance.

i dunno, i'm in the habit of focus cancelling past fireballs but sagat's are so fast i usually get hit immediately after i dash out of one, and (again because of the speed difference) i find hitting sagat with chun's ultra to be a bit more difficult for me because i either do it too early and get hit with a fireball or i do it too late and they end up guarding it, seems like there isn't as large a window as there is with kuma/gouken/ryu/ken, but i'm also still learning it @_@

[richardd]

claws were annoying, but their air cross up is so long, thats you have 1-2 sec to know whether to block back or keep moving forward. one of my good friends uses vega alot. she's pretty annoying with it too, but luckily i got some good practice on her.

i noticed a lot of blankas now rely on their rainbow roll crossup after a knockdown when i was trying on cammy again. i remember how that used to piss me off so much not knowing to block up or down, move forward and move backward.. but after playing blanka so long, hes not nearly as bad as i remember. im going to try to get that feel for all the characters so ill up my skill a bit. my biggest downfall is always focusing to much on 1 person. i need to lay off that. i think i might work on dictator next. :D he's another good mindgamer

[Damane]

i dunno, i'm in the habit of focus cancelling past fireballs but sagat's are so fast i usually get hit immediately after i dash out of one, and (again because of the speed difference) i find hitting sagat with chun's ultra to be a bit more difficult for me because i either do it too early and get hit with a fireball or i do it too late and they end up guarding it, seems like there isn't as large a window as there is with kuma/gouken/ryu/ken, but i'm also still learning it @_@

Sagats have infact a shorter duration recover after fireballs as regular shotos + your ultra will definitly get blocked if you rush from full distance in to a low tigershot, high tigershot should be usually a hit.

[Ramor]

awesome, guess i'll try to work on not relying on a full distance ultra against newby shotos

[Balb]

or learn Dash Ultra