Don't ask, don't tell: no more.

[Julian]

What if a gay guy is attracted to another gay guy, but that particular gay guy isn't reciprocating the attraction?

What if a straight woman is attracted to a man, but the man isn't attracted to that woman?

Whatever conflict one-sided attraction causes in the military exists whether gays are involved or not.

Being gay or straight is irrelevant.

What you said only supports my overall point >_>

@above post: So? If it's gonna happen any way, there is no point in discriminating to try and prevent it.

So you have one distracted by his sexuality, and one distracted by their discomfort. Also, you are assuming you only have one gay soldier in a unit, and not 2-3.

Except that said gay person is already there, so if he were to be "distracted," he already would be. And anyone who feels discomfort needs to grow up.

[archibaldcrane]

Straight and gay men are different, the gay guy might be attracted to the straight guy, but unless the straight guy is also gay (or bi/curious) that attraction is only gonna be one way.

You are acting like if both people are gay, then the attraction is automatically going to be "two way". Obviously just because two people are gay does not mean that the attraction is going to go both ways.

Whether it's a straight man and a straight women, or a straight man and a gay man, you can have "one-way" attraction.

If you are arguing that it doesn't matter, that quoted statement is confusing.

[Marius]

I went to a coed basic training. The males and females were sneaking off bang each other -every- opportunity they got. Most got caught, and most got the shit smoked out of them, and still continued to do it.

You cant ground out human nature and raging hormones (that are higher in an environent where you are already with-holding sex from everyone) by simply making them do more pushups.

I see what you mean. How bout another question cause I'm genuinley getting interested in this topic. when coed units were introduced how much of an impact did it have on the functionality of units at that time? did it affect the units in a serious negative fashion that caused dangerous incidents when these units were deployed?

i ask because the way i see it is adding gay men to a coed units is just expanding on the idea of the coed unit itself. There will still be friction between the men, woman and gay men the way there is friction between just the men and woman now.
(i could be way of base here so please correct me if i am)

[Julian]

You are acting like if both people are gay, then the attraction is automatically going to be "two way". Obviously just because two people are gay does not mean that the attraction is going to go both ways.

Whether it's a straight man and a straight women, or a straight man and a gay man, you can have "one-way" attraction.

The point was, if the other person isn't gay, it's automatically one-way with no way of being both ways.

[Alleya]

Soldiers are like rabbits. Deployed soldiers are like rabbits on crack. Im not saying being gay makes you more likely to do/attempt sexual things while on deployment, im saying being human causes that.

I guess that means once gays are allowed in the military we'll have to get rid of the women. Their advances on the gay men who have no interest in them will make them uncomfortable, and that distraction could prove fatal on the battlefield. But then, I guess that would just leave the straight guys uncomfortable. So we'll have to kick out the gays too. And the bisexuals. But then all the good old fashioned straight American dudes will be distracted because they have no chicks to bang, and distractions are fatal, so we'll just have to replace everyone with robots.

Or maybe straight guys can just learn to ignore advances they are not interested in, like female soldiers have had to do from day one, from about 100 times the amount of 'suitors' that gay men would constitute.

[#686578]

I guess that means once gays are allowed in the military we'll have to get rid of the women. Their advances on the gay men who have no interest in them will make them uncomfortable, and that distraction could prove fatal on the battlefield. But then, I guess that would just leave the straight guys uncomfortable. So we'll have to kick out the gays too. And the bisexuals. But then all the good old fashioned straight American dudes will be distracted because they have no chicks to bang, and distractions are fatal, so we'll just have to replace everyone with robots.

Or maybe straight guys can just learn to ignore advances they are not interested in, like female soldiers have had to do from day one, from about 100 times the amount of 'suitors' that gay men would constitute.

I was with you up until the bolded women bang a lot in the military. That's the other half of the rabbit analogy used earlier in the thread.

[Alleya]

I was with you up until the bolded women bang a lot in the military. That's the other half of the rabbit analogy used earlier in the thread.

If female soldiers banged every guy who propositioned them, they wouldn't be able to move. I imagine our classy american ladies have some scruples.

[#686578]

If female soldiers banged every guy who propositioned them, they wouldn't be able to move. I imagine our classy american ladies have some scruples.

Well yes, not literally every solicitation, but enough to where the straight men aren't having sex with themselves.

[Neosutra]

And yet they still do.

[SwampdonkeyPLD]

If female soldiers banged every guy who propositioned them, they wouldn't be able to move. I imagine our classy american ladies have some scruples.

I have a buddy in the Marine Corps in Japan and according to him you have it backwards. They bang every guy they approach.

[Zilong]

Both genders like sex? preposterous!

[Kuya]

Both sexes.

[Vail]

I have a buddy in the Marine Corps in Japan and according to him you have it backwards. They bang every guy they approach.

two bathroom mates (2 rooms that share one bathroom between the rooms)- guy was banging a whore in one room one night and woke up his bathroom mate. The Bathroom mate got pissed off and was yelling and pounding on the door. The whore decided to sleep with the bathroom mate just to shut him up, after she was done with the first guy.

(story a friend shared with me about this slutty chick we had at my command.) She even admitted to me sleeping with 12 people just from our command. (like 8 commands on my base) My indoct to my base also included a speaker warning us to not sleep with female military members because statiscly they make up nearly 75% of the STD populous in the military, where he got his data, I'm not sure, but I doubt it's far off.

[Kiro]

Holy shit, rofl. That's insane.

[Vail]

another fun story told to me during my tech school:

one of the Electronic's Tech shacks got inspected while out on an eastpac (Atlantic Ocean tour) well, they just left France and one of the Techs had a bunch of pictures he took while out on liberty. My class adviser was the first class of the tech shack so he had to be present during the Captain's Mast that followed.

The pictures contained an extreme amount of graphic material featuring the young tech. One picture was him downing 2 cocks in his mouth at once.

The Captain chewed this guys ass out for roughly half an hour. Then invited the young man out onto the deck of the ship and took the pictures with him. Out there on the deck, he yells again at the young tech "If I ever catch you with this kinda shit again, you're out of here!" and throws all the pictures off the shit and tells the guy to "get the fuck back to work."

I'm sure others in the Military have stories to share first hand, or ones they've heard second hand.

[#686578]

ITT: Abstinence only education in the military.

[#686578]

Though on a serious note, I would wonder how the women spread STDs and dont get pregnant. Birthcontrol? Is that allowed in the military?

[TheShadyMan]

Maybe we just shouldn't have a military.

[Vail]

yes birth control is allowed in the military

[#686578]

yes birth control is allowed in the military

Under what guise? As a medical reason for better controlling ones menstruation or for sex?