ZR 15 Farm

[Jamofu]

almost everyone in my linkshell atm needs a 15 from ZR. I haven't really been to many ZR runs for this many people, but i guess my main question is: can all 4 of the poroggo's on first floor be popped? wiki doesn't say if can or can't.

If they can't is there an easier way to farm for 15s in that zone besides doing 1 run per 15 piece?

[Lyramion]

There are 4 Gents at the end of each side. But only 1 Madame that will pop at the start after you killed a Gent and drop a random 15.


After you killed a Gent go back to the start and everyone timed logout. This will make the madame pop without anyone needing to save up cells.

[Jamofu]

im confused, what your saying is after we kill 1 gent and pop the mademe kill it then at a certain time log off same time then back in and another will pop after next gent is killed? or what

sorry if i got your post wrong

[Conrad]

1) Designate one person not to use cells
2) Clear one wing. Poroggo Gent will pop.
3) Kill the Gent.
4) Everyone except the designated person logs out. Everyone else logs back in. At this point, the Poroggo Madame has popped back at the starter chest area.
5) Kill the Madame. The Madame, not the Gent, is capable of dropping a random 15 (except the skadi body 15, that can only drop from the F2 Slot).

[Jamofu]

1) Designate one person not to use cells
2) Clear one wing. Poroggo Gent will pop.
3) Kill the Gent.
4) Everyone except the designated person logs out. Everyone else logs back in. At this point, the Poroggo Madame has popped back at the starter chest area.
5) Kill the Madame. The Madame, not the Gent, is capable of dropping a random 15 (except the skadi body 15, that can only drop from the F2 Slot).

Ok, i understand that, but this may sound like a dumb question, why would people log off, is there a trick to getting more than 1 mademe on 1st floor pop like that or something? Im confused can you go more into detail about why they log off and back in and THEN kill the NM?

[Conrad]

The Madame doesn't exist unless everybody in the zone has used no cells. Logging out would allow everyone except for one person to use their cells. When everyone logs out, the person left in the zone is the only one there, and is still fully locked. If you prefer, you could have everybody in the zone refrain from using any cells, but then you'd be going through an entire wing without magic/SJ/weapons/JAs, and no one would recommend you do that.

I would suggest reading each of the Salvage threads and doing some research on the pop conditions for every NM. Memorization is the best way to speed up your runs and become successful.

[Rafike]

The Madame will only pop if you have killed a gent and no one has used any cells. So as opposed to everyone not using any cells only designate one person to hold onto the cells they receive, not using any. After killing the Gent everyone is who did use a cell time log offs. This will leave the one player who didn't us any cells as the only person left in the zone. Thus the requirements for the Madame to pop so once everyone has logged back in kill it and hope you get what you want.
Edit: RAGEEEEE at being beaten

[Jamofu]

The Madame doesn't exist unless everybody in the zone has used no cells. Logging out would allow everyone except for one person to use their cells. When everyone logs out, the person left in the zone is the only one there, and is still fully locked. If you prefer, you could have everybody in the zone refrain from using any cells, but then you'd be going through an entire wing without magic/SJ/weapons/JAs, and no one would recommend you do that.

I would suggest reading each of the Salvage threads and doing some research on the pop conditions for every NM. Memorization is the best way to speed up your runs and become successful.

ah ok guess i didn't read wiki word for word, i see it now, can u do that for each gent? like kill 1 gent then NM, then kill another gent, log off repeat?

[Valyana]

No.

[Lyramion]

4) Everyone except the designated person logs out. Everyone else logs back in. At this point, the Poroggo Madame has popped back at the starter chest area

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This is wrong. The Madame will pop even if the zone is empty - you don´t need to leave 1 back. Everyone can use cells and everyone can logoff. Then all of you come back and Madame be up. Speeds it up a little.

[Conrad]

Yeah I know this, but we usually have the one person go back before everyone logs off and pull the madame towards where we fought the gent.

[Jones]

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This is wrong. The Madame will pop even if the zone is empty - you don´t need to leave 1 back. Everyone can use cells and everyone can logoff. Then all of you come back and Madame be up. Speeds it up a little.

Yeah, everyone can log out. The zone is reserved for you for 3 mins even if everyone is gone.

Another quick tip is to skip the Mamool Ja Zenist on your way to clearing wing of your choice. After killing the Gent, everyone logs out and back on. On your way back you can kill the Mamool, saving your TP for the Madame. Makes it a slight bit quicker if all the melees have TP to dump on the madame right away (or useful if you save TP for Stunning WS).