New Priest change(s), good? bad? lrn2Priest?

[Koyangi]

How do ya'll feel about the new CoH changes? does it now force other types of healer classes in the raid to focus on things they didnt before, does it change HPriest in a way that is really negative for certain encounters that seemed to need CoH (mally comes to mind), or do Priests just need to use other abilities they may not have used alot of or often enough of to make up for lack of a spammable CoH?

My opinions are that players will adjust, and quite possibly resto shamans and druids will see more invites than before, I have noticed they would get less invites overall compared to HPriests, however I don't see raids ditching Hpriest anyway, since Guardian Spirit stil rocks, and Fortitude and Spirit buffs will always be great to have.

[Correction]

Just means Druids/Priests will have to think more during raid encounters rather than spam one button the entire time.

It'll make heroic healing a little harder I guess.

[Dezzimal]

Guardian Spirit stil rocks, and Fortitude and Spirit buffs will always be great to have.

Can't have guardian spirit and spirit buff. Guardian spirit is pretty situational, I've found it is most useful at keeping someone alive who disconnected and is getting a void zone spawn under them.

[Koyangi]

Can't have guardian spirit and spirit buff. Guardian spirit is pretty situational, I've found it is most useful at keeping someone alive who disconnected and is getting a void zone spawn under them.

oops my bad on the spirit thing, leave that to disc priests

[Ardrial]

I have guardian spirit, CoH, and max spirit buffs.

I don't like the nerfed CoH because i used it a lot in raids but not so much in heroics.

[Eaglestrike]

I really don't see why so many priests are QQing over this. Priest has soooooo many spells in their arsenal one being slightly nerfed isn't that big of a blow.

Sapphiron, which is probably the most healing intensive fight in the game (OS with 3 drakes is crazy but a lot of that damage is hit+dead or miss) has been two healed by myself as a disc priest with prayer of healing and a holy bacon paladin, neither cleared naxx more than a couple times and the only Naxx gear I have is 2pc t7. But I was able to 2-heal the fight because renew/PoM/PoH/shield is still excellent.

I don't think Malygos is really going to be that hard now, I didn't think healing it was that terribly difficult before. It's 20k damage + 10% more from fall damage, but just with gift you'll resist 10-20% of the damage from vortex from my experience so just about anyone geared can survive vortex without heals, thus just renews/HoT's/etc. you can keep everyone alive.

At the most it'll go back to being more specific healing targets for groups like you did for Bloodboil, group 2 is healed by x, group 3 by y, group 4 z, tanks by a-b-c, etc.

[Ishido]

CoH was OP, nerf is justified.

[aurik]

When I did pug 25s with other resto druids, their healing breakdowns were sitting between 70-95% (yes, 95%) healing done through wild growth.

Needed to be fixed.

[Jotaru]

I've been doing Heroics since I hit 80 a few days ago on my alt priest, main healing on blues+greens.. was 80 about 15 minutes before doing my first string of heroics, and the first two with a blue geared tank at about 15/15/15 avoidance... As Discipline, so no COH spamming. Thus, COH not necessary.

[Plow]

It goes both ways, a good priest could carry a pretty scrub raid through Sapph (honestly I know it has other uses, but Sapph and Maly are really the only encounters remotely challenging to healers at this point), but at the same time less insanity from other aoe healers should help people to realize how damn amazing Judgement of Light is now.

[Eaglestrike]

It goes both ways, a good priest could carry a pretty scrub raid through Sapph (honestly I know it has other uses, but Sapph and Maly are really the only encounters remotely challenging to healers at this point), but at the same time less insanity from other aoe healers should help people to realize how damn amazing Judgement of Light is now.

Our ret paladin is now leading healing meters, did 4800 hps on Anub'arak, lol.

[aurik]

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(Sapphiron 25)

[Plow]

Our ret paladin is now leading healing meters, did 4800 hps on Anub'arak, lol.

My favorite part about it is maly, as long as everyone's in the middle when vortex starts, most of the raid should be able to melee him during it for a decent little bit of heal help there.

[Dezzimal]

shadow got unintentionally buffed bigtime. Mindflay is doing about 15% more damage than it should

[Koyangi]

shadow got unintentionally buffed bigtime. Mindflay is doing about 15% more damage than it should

how?

[Gulkeeva]

shadow got unintentionally buffed bigtime. Mindflay is doing about 15% more damage than it should

Thats good, since I need to lvlup my spriest soon considering I'm almost done lvling ret pally.

[Sylphet]

CoH nerf definitely affects priest healing in certain fights. One thing I've been a stickler about is that post-nerf, raid parties need to be organized better. Priest still has 2 additional AoE heals (Prayer of Healing: long cast time, more health healed and Holy Nova: less health healed, smaller radius, instant cast, can be spammed). However these 2 AoE heals are party only (as opposed to CoH which is raid wide) so if half of the people in the priest's party are melee dps and half are ranged, their healing capabilities are hit hard. Last 10 man naxx we 2-healed the entire thing with 2 holy priests and it helped tremendously to put one priest in party with the melee dps and tanks and one with the ranged dps. Sapphiron was the biggest issue since people get pretty spread out in that fight to avoid blizzard etc.

[Gulkeeva]

CoH nerf definitely affects priest healing in certain fights. One thing I've been a stickler about is that post-nerf, raid parties need to be organized better. Priest still has 2 additional AoE heals (Prayer of Healing: long cast time, more health healed and Holy Nova: less health healed, smaller radius, instant cast, can be spammed). However these 2 AoE heals are party only (as opposed to CoH which is raid wide) so if half of the people in the priest's party are melee dps and half are ranged, their healing capabilities are hit hard. Last 10 man naxx we 2-healed the entire thing with 2 holy priests and it helped tremendously to put one priest in party with the melee dps and tanks and one with the ranged dps. Sapphiron was the biggest issue since people get pretty spread out in that fight to avoid blizzard etc.

Yeah the ranged like to spread all over the place... we usually assign the healers to stand in certain locations though and just have them heal whatever's near them (nice way to see which healers failing *cough*)

Of course all the melee just soorta zoom into first person view and mash buttons while standing in blizzard... (kinda sucks when the saph flys up, and all the melee still standing there hitting him.. they get ice block and you got a 50/50 chance to be gibbed so dam close to saph when he does that aoe...

[Eaglestrike]

Prayer of Healing has a 30 yard range, that allows a group of 5 people to spread out quite a bit and still get hit by it. They just need to stay within 30 yards of the priest, which really isn't that difficult. And Prayer of Healing is a very strong spell, the glyph is very nice too.

[Dezzimal]

I think a targetable PoH would have been a fair tradeoff for the CoH nerf, or maybe just make it smart like coh but keep it self target only.