Unholy DK

[Dantrag]

I feel like i just got shit on. I feel like my damage intake shot up like 100%... It's fkn horrible.

[Norellicus]

Tell us how you really feel.

I don't even understand the complaint lol, no changes to DK's mitigation or survivability that I can see in the 3.0.8 notes...

[Dantrag]

-20% from bone shield -15% from IBF(30% w/o defense stuff on) and a 20% armor increase(not really because rings/trinkets and certain other items don't get an increase)

[Norellicus]

Ooh, the armor change. Forgot Frost Presence gave you armor multipliers.

As for the other two, IBF is essentially Barkskin now, which is fine given what it does (1min CD, can't tell me globally halving your damage intake 1/5th of the time isn't OP), and Bone Shield they wanted to be more like Warrior's Shield Block (the post 3.0 version), not something that was kept up constantly for perma-mitigation. So yeah it's a loss but it makes sense given Blizzard's aptitude to make classes fairly interchangeable in terms of roles and the abilities that supplement those roles.

Respec blood for quicker burst damage so the mitigation isn't as much an issue? :X

[Dantrag]

Well we DK's were lower than warriors and pally's before the patch but we kept up now I feel like i'm waaaaay below as far as mitigation goes.

[Koyangi]

wah wah, DK has been slightly OP as far being able to do many things really well, I mean you're a plate class with so much survivability anyway, yet you have the ability to dps and tank well despite the changes. I'd count your blessings, there's quite a bit going for the class, it's still a very dominant class in arena.

[Insanecyclone]

Heroic Class. The changes do feel out of place but its to "balance" things so have to deal with them even if you disagree.

[Dantrag]

wah wah, DK has been slightly OP as far being able to do many things really well, I mean you're a plate class with so much survivability anyway, yet you have the ability to dps and tank well despite the changes. I'd count your blessings, there's quite a bit going for the class, it's still a very dominant class in arena.

Could honestly care less about arena. DPS has never been an issue. Warriors can tank and dps /shrug. I play for pve content and due to the wah wah of people in arenas they decided to kick unholy in the balls.

[Blabj]

I forgot about the bone shield nerf today in Naxx and was being very casual avoiding the green crap during Heigan (I didn't used to be too fussed since Bone Shield would absorb half the damage) but I almost shat a brick when I was left with just a few thousand HP. That's when the nerf hit home, and the depression kicked in...

Nah in all honesty that was a necessary nerf, it is pretty ridiculous to think that DKs could have 50% damage mitigation up pretty much all the time.

[Ramor]

I forgot about the bone shield nerf today in Naxx and was being very casual avoiding the green crap during Heigan (I didn't used to be too fussed since Bone Shield would absorb half the damage) but I almost shat a brick when I was left with just a few thousand HP. That's when the nerf hit home, and the depression kicked in...

Nah in all honesty that was a necessary nerf, it is pretty ridiculous to think that DKs could have 50% damage mitigation up pretty much all the time.

unfortunately I have to agree, although the changes to frost dps (and my lack of a decent MH weapon) made me go back to unholy DPS, which is still quite strong so no big argument from me.

Although I do want to try out frost eventually (frost tanking), seems like it'd be better now than it was pre IBF/BS nerf, of course I don't really know much of anything about tanking outside of 5mans/heroics

[Blabj]

I've still kept my DW build, and to be honest there isn't a great deal of difference in terms of damage. I thought this would push me back to the low 2000's but I'm still doing 3k DPS.

Deathchill is mega useful now, and definately worth dropping a point elsewhere to pick up.

[Korietsu]

Obliterate doesn't generate runic power lolol. I think tanking is still decent, heroics weren't much more of a problem. I'll have to see how it goes when I get into Vault or Naxx on the DK again.

[chillin]

nerf sucked

[Ramor]

nerf sucked

i agree, but i'd also say that KM was pretty unbalanced as 32/39 with decent crit and fast/fast, you'd have it up all the fucking time, pvp was really fun though if you could manage to get a pestilence off you could HB and pick up like 30k damage