FF7 and FF12 glitches took the accomplishment out of whatever you did in those games, but if you were fine with that, more power to you.**Disclaimer: This post is a long wall-o-text. It contains personal views you may or may not agree with. Only read if your bored and able to consider someone's else feelings, otherwise ignore me**
Lets all remember the W-Item materia glitch in FF7. Oh and the fact you could level your characters in FF12 while being AFK. These are glitches that people gladly taken advantage of in FF games for years. And really, if your gonna tell me you played FF7 and didn't take advantage of duping items there, you are full of it.
The difference is, your save data in FF7 can't be "punished" however, in FFXI it can. If people find a exploit in your game, we're going to abuse it. No matter who you are. Weather its the innocent people "only" using windower/recast/distance/TParty and exploiting a 3rd party program thats NOT part of the original game design, or the one's who dupe drops. Both parties are guilty of "making the game easier" in some way.
Look, FFXI is just another videogame made by Square that contains a few flaws/exploits, its not the first time we abused one of them. Of course we knew its breaking the game, just like the exploits in previous games, make us cheaters? Yes. Bad people who deserve to be banned and lose seeing our friends daily? I think not.
Square has to act when you abuse FFXI glitches cause it's an interpersonal game. There are competitive elements, and for that to work there needs to be fair play involved. When there's a glitch in a game like Counterstrike or Starcraft, it's patched. People who maphack in these games are banned. These are all done for the sake of fair play. You can't have people getting advantages others don't. Do you think flee hacking or poshacking is ok because it's a flaw in SE's coding that you can do those things?
The fact that this glitch was kept top secret and exposed only months upon months after people discovered it is proof people knew it was a problem. People took measures to make sure they would get to keep abusing this glitch. It created an uneven situation. SE had to correct it.
I personally don't care about Windower because it doesn't impair fair play. Getting to alt tab between Windows to browse the net or use AIM/MSN is not an unfair advantage. Granted some plug-ins do grant unfair advantages and I draw personal lines with what plugins I use because of that (I don't touch Cancel for example). Lots of people have problems with the ethics of plugins: Windower Lite exists for a reason and people do use it.
There are tons of hardcore people that are fine doing things legitimately. It's not about hating on you cause you didn't (at least for some of us) its about acknowledging that what you did is a violation for a legitimate reason and that it wasn't justified because you think SE's programmers suck.
I heard through the grapevine that Daffelz has been voted the new leader of Karasu in case Merona is banned.
Good choice, so I think they'll be fine unless there's some sort of power vacuum.
He's got a point Geno. You should probably kill yourself, just sayin'
The JP thread...is referring to here.
i request the topic of this thread to be renamed to: "Hall of shame"
good for people that only get temp banned. we need to remember cheaters forever good for people that only get temp banned. we need to remember cheaters forever
KANJI It's better now that he was at the hall of shame for SURETAI? 一KANJI It also for the pause. KANJI You do not forget the cheetah.
why so sour...It's not worse than using konami code (up up down down left right left right BA) why so sour ... It's not worse than using konami code (up up down down left right left right BA)
for the old shooting games or F12+R+N+Q on Princess Maker to make the princess nude... for the old shooting games or F12 + R + N + Q on Princess Maker to make the princess nude ...
KANJI… I can not say why such a harsh ...KANJIGASU or Princess from Princess Maker command or Konami said you better ...
I'd say it's a bit worse than that. I'd say it's a bit worse than that.
KANJI I say get that, I think it is a little worse.
Here it comes .... wait for it .... wait for it .....So? What they gonna do ban me for the 5th time? half of the posts in the 57 page in the other thread have broken the forum rules, go cry to mommy.
YouTube - Brave Heart Holds his troops TOO long
Oh come on, we gotta have a few people from Lakshmi gone!
GJ BREAKING THE PAGE TABLE WAY 2 GO