LM-17

[The Blackrose]

Didn't we have the whole moral discussion when SE nerfed the duping? Do we really have to have it again?

It's a brand new day! Seize the moment!

[SephYuyX]

Suckers. Enjoy your ban.
You know you were doing wrong, doesnt matter if it was a flaw in the system or not.

[Cloudius]

450 posts and still no Niki, or any of those other fags from the dup patch thread!?

[Whaleporn]

Ugh, to even cheat square out of one insect wing... unthinkable.

FFXI is so user friendly and well made that the concept of trying to circumvent the brilliant challenges in place makes me physically ill. What sort of sick monster would destroy the game by trying to get more gear out of a low yield event? I sometimes see thieves wearing Treasure hunter +1 gear to abuse drops. I tried reporting it to a GM but I got a stupid gajin who told me "thank you for your concern" It's exactly the same sort of thing so I suggest you guys wearing AF2 hands and that knife on your THF knock it off before you get banned.

[Destinye]

Whelp, in the end guess people will be more wise to actually report exploits instead of abusing them, that way we won't have this "ROFL FUCK YOU MORAL THUMPER" and "I CHEATED BUT I DIDN'T DESERVE TO BE BANNED" argument thing.


/wakes up

Ah..what a nice dream.

Ugh, to even cheat square out of one insect wing... unthinkable.

FFXI is so user friendly and well made that the concept of trying to circumvent the brilliant challenges in place makes me physically ill. What sort of sick monster would destroy the game by trying to get more gear out of a low yield event? I sometimes see thieves wearing Treasure hunter +1 gear to abuse drops. I tried reporting it to a GM but I got a stupid gajin who told me "thank you for your concern" It's exactly the same sort of thing so I suggest you guys wearing AF2 hands and that knife on your THF knock it off before you get banned.

There you go...trying to rationalize cheating.

I can't believe you just threw in something about coded game mechanics that was meant to help with drops.

[Miraun]

Ugh, to even cheat square out of one insect wing... unthinkable.

FFXI is so user friendly and well made that the concept of trying to circumvent the brilliant challenges in place makes me physically ill. What sort of sick monster would destroy the game by trying to get more gear out of a low yield event? I sometimes see thieves wearing Treasure hunter +1 gear to abuse drops. I tried reporting it to a GM but I got a stupid gajin who told me "thank you for your concern" It's exactly the same sort of thing so I suggest you guys wearing AF2 hands and that knife on your THF knock it off before you get banned.

Best post in thread.

[Day]

Ugh, to even cheat square out of one insect wing... unthinkable.

FFXI is so user friendly and well made that the concept of trying to circumvent the brilliant challenges in place makes me physically ill. What sort of sick monster would destroy the game by trying to get more gear out of a low yield event? I sometimes see thieves wearing Treasure hunter +1 gear to abuse drops. I tried reporting it to a GM but I got a stupid gajin who told me "thank you for your concern" It's exactly the same sort of thing so I suggest you guys wearing AF2 hands and that knife on your THF knock it off before you get banned.

Rationalization.

[Fridell]

Big FUCK YOU. people who duped are no longer GOOD people yo. wtf your thinking man.

Before you guys(banned personnel) ask for sympathies, ask your self this:
1. I knew about the dupe. Did I gotta stop/or report to SE? NO!
2. I just wanna dupe till i get something, wait nvm am i really going to stop? NO!
3. Fuck it SE didnt fix, and no one reported either. I shouldnt stop too!
4. Fuck i got banned? Why am i not getting ANOTHER chance? this is only my 781236782357612 time duping for 1 year!

I AM SURE PEOPLE WHO GOT BANNED DIDNT STOP AT DUPING ONCE YO. You had your chances but u didnt take it. You chose to "STEAL" 1527635765751 times from poroggo madame and she arent happy.



Yes here you go
http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/ban.JPG
You got quick drawed......see you in the next MMORPG

I never said this before, but I like you! \o/

[Kaibelf]

all these people talking about how everyone who duped deserves it, get the hell off your high horse. if you knew how to do it efficiently then im sure you would have. most of yall probably tried to do it, but are too retarded to understand how to work it or didnt get drops.

No, we wouldn't have. Some of us actually take a little pride in knowing we worked for our shit. Sorry, "yall."

Just because you're a lazy fucking loser who cuts corners doesn't mean all of us are asinine pussies.

[Tellahh]

Whoever feels like "you got what you deserved" should really Stfu. Play this game for 3-5 years and know how bad SE screws with you, and when you see a silly innocent exploit that doesn't involve App or any 3rd party programs and go for it. When this dumb shit happens, its because of piss poor programming and customer service. Seriously people, if you feel that these people should get what's coming to them, you really need to look in the mirror and see what jealousy you have over others who get pixelated items before you and wonder why you're mad.

This is the last straw with customer service with this fucking game. Square enix is now the laughing stock in the gaming community (as if they weren't before) and it's dumb shit like this that will make them bankrupt by december.

Stop hating you closet jealous idiots and support your fellow adventurer.

This has got to be the most self-absorbed statement in this thread haha.. I've been doing Salvage for quite some time now and have 4 Full pieces to show for it, completely legit, more power to me I guess but I couldn't be more glad that this is happening to all the dupers TBH, *cut & paste* generic "You got what you deserved" Comment here.

I didn't know about the trick untill it was released fullreign in the ninja-maint debacle.. but you can be DAMN sure I wouldn't 2nd think trying it you know why?..

I'm surprised. They cracked down hard on duping in EQ1 in the early days.

I lost 2 Accounts in EQ1 to retarded dupeing so I know how unrelenting developers can be in retaining their integrity (cause that's what we fcking did, we assaulted their integrities as developers by abuseing a glitch they implemented not of their own accord..)

It's really pathetic you guys didn't see this coming months ago when they Ninja-patched it and started flocking here bragging like idiots.

Really the only thing that can sum up this thread of now mudslinging (tried to read the whole thing..) is this lol~

Oh the Q_Qs

This thread has made my day!


Moral high road or not, naive to the glitch, etc etc. We'll still be logging in tonight to play.

*End* Wall'o'text ~ /rant off.. wtfever



P.S. Before some1 calls me a "Troll that signed up just to poke fun".. I've been a member since a stupid drama occurance to post and have since yet come to BG to read the Media Section and good Drama threads (Such as this one~) when I'm bored out of my mind between HNM Windows.

[Vedder]

All this thread makes me want to do is lol heartily at the naiveté of people who came on these forums stomping their feet saying that SE couldn't or wouldn't do anything to players who exploited this glitch. I mean, really? I can't believe you think you can just do things with impunity. >.>

That said, permaban seems a bit harsh imo... unless it's a 3rd or 4th offense for someone. Just tempban, mark the account, and take away their Salvage/Nyzul/whatever gears.

Although, on the other hand... a hardline approach certainly sends a message...

[Akucaen]

Why are they banning the people that duped salvage drops? The only people to "suffer" from this should be the people who duped sandworm drops, and even then I don't believe they should. This was SE's shitty programming and unlike the infamous COP NPC bug, this one didn't destroy the economy. If anything, it lowered prices on all the items across the board. I could take the moral high ground, but I fully admit I would've abused this to hell and back if I'd known about it prior to it being disabled. I won't lie in the least bit.

If SE's 'new' logs are as detailed as they claim them to be, I fail to see why punishing those with the intent to make gil off the endeavour wouldn't be the best course of action. Simply lumping anyone who duped anything together is stupid, because I've already seen someone I know LM'ed over what came to be cell-duping. OH MY GOD. Burn them all alive.

The logic they have in regards to game decisions is absolutely stupid sometimes. By SE's logic, everyone who breaks the speed limit by 1-2 MPH coasting down a hill should be locked up as long as someone who went on a murdering spree. (Parallel being the guy in cell-duping getting LM'ed just like someone who duped for pure profit. SE has already proven that duping/circumvention for profit is an /extreme/ no-no they ban for.)

Also, no LM-17 before you call me on QQ'ing over a ban.

[Seraph]

"It is easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission."

A fool and his dupes are soon parted. Enjoy the bans, gentlemen.

[Vedder]

450 posts and still no Niki, or any of those other fags from the dup patch thread!?

They are afk wiping away their tears so they can start working on a post to justify their actions and rail against the system!

[BRP]

Best post in thread.

That means so little coming from someone who has consistently been making the worst posts in this thread.

[Tyrath]

Glad I didn't know about the trick

[Whaleporn]

Ah..what a nice dream.

I had a dream too, where my naruto dat mods would be embraced here.

Yeah, too bad the dream is RUINED by this forum full of people who FIGURE OUT NUMBERS and turn the magic of FFXI into a NUMBER GAME. Ugh. How dare they?

Figures the same people who destroyed absolute virtue, a sign of the might of japan and the hope of a reemergence of imperial power are the ones who, in the end, dastardly tried to ROB poor square enix of their hard earned alexandrite and 35 pieces.

Also, to think we would be sympatheic to people who's unobtrusive abuse of a bug that QA missed but they found on accident? Please. The mere thought of considering years of non related effort put to waste is terrible. It's like when there was a tsunami and everyone was outpouring support? I was sitting there saying 'well duh, you live on the beach you deal with the waves stupid'

[Varrin]

Aww, muffin.

[Devek]

If it was just a game error, then it would have effected everyone. It didn't.

That being said.. the punishment is kind of harsh when you consider how many people would have totally been willing to do it had they known about the exploit. The number would have been much higher if the knowledge was more out there. If SE had just made the drop rate reasonable, less people would have known or cared to use an exploit to actually get something.

I didn't get banned, but it isn't like I don't deserve one either so I am not going to take the high horse position

[Baelorn]

Why are they banning the people that duped salvage drops?

Because it is cheating. How hard is that to understand?

Cheat => Ban.