LM-17

[Colenzo]

Obviously they didn't get everyone or else I would have a few friends calling me very pissed off right now. It still doesn't justify the fact that THEY fucked up... so its OUR fault.

If you have a tiger in a zoo and it kills someone for hopping the fence... is that the tiger's fault the dumb fucker was sex nuts and retard strong and thought hopping into a pen full of *!&@ing tigers was a good idea? I win.

Or maybe they built the fence too low and you knew it and that it coulda happened and you didnt say shit about it.

[Kaolas]

Obviously they didn't get everyone or else I would have a few friends calling me very pissed off right now. It still doesn't justify the fact that THEY fucked up... so its OUR fault.

If you have a tiger in a zoo and it kills someone for hopping the fence... is that the tiger's fault the dumb fucker was sex nuts and retard strong and thought hopping into a pen full of *!&@ing tigers was a good idea? I win.

How can people still keep blaming SE for this shit. Did those double/triple drops happen automatically? Did they not take actual effort and setting up to produce the glitch? Seriously, people weren't just hit with this dupe out of nowhere, they actively attempted to make it happen.

I really don't care that people did it, or if it is wrong or not, but people who did it unwilling to accept any consequences should just shut the hell up about blaming SE. This thread needs more perma ban entertainment.

[Soracloud]

Ha ha.

[Lyramion]

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Ok so what is a LM-11? Permaban?


Used the dupe trick like 6 times total and havent done any other wired shit in game

[kareface]

fyi, US accounts have to call the US number. Can't use the online deal either.

[drwaffles]

The really fucking stupid thing is that they're perma-banning people with clean accounts in order to send a message to the rest of the player base. Also does this mean an assload of old JPs have been banned as well?

[Rainesong]

No because the trick was known for more than 1.5 years and after they fixed it it took them 2+ months to ban people, and form my understanding the JPs knew this for more than 1.5 years.

They said in thier report that they have scanned/checked 1 year worth of logs right? if so I think the best way would just remove the obtained items/drops as a punishment not ban them lol.

what about stuff that was already sold?

[[Cookies]]

That's like saying you shouldn't be perma banned for POS hacking once when you have a clean account.

[Rainesong]

drwaffles, did you get lm-11 or lm-17 (or other)

[Thorny]

That's like saying you shouldn't be perma banned for POS hacking once when you have a clean account.

back in the day you got like 3 warnings for pos hacking before ban, lol

[Jhun]

Ok kill your child if he stole a candy from the store, don't refund the store or take away the candy gotcha.

[Nattack]

I can tell you this. the US call centre is gonna be massively overworked tomorrow

[Nattack]

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Ok so what is a LM-11? Permaban?


Used the dupe trick like 6 times total and havent done any other wired shit in game

damn, and i was wondering what mijin gakure did.


but i dont think its what you did, I think its where you did it.
how much gil was "reproduced" in this act, you wonder?

[Gredival]

Everyone are mad, they are banning people because they suck at programming thier game.

Microsoft fucks up at programming security all the time. Does that make it okay for hackers to go around and jack other people's credit card numbers and ruin their credit scores because of a bad programmer?

No one in their right mind is going to buy the "It MS's fault" line or "You should have used a different Program/Operating System" line from the hacker when he jacks your credit card number. Because he is at fault for abusing the loophole even if he didn't create it.

There is ample enough evidence that the SE programmers leave much to be desired. But being given the opportunity to do something does not mean it is legitimate for you to do it. The exploit was there, that doesn't mean you were supposed to use it or were justified in using it.

You could have reported it and gotten it patched however much sooner. You made the conscious decision to exploit the bug (or partake in a shell/runs that made use of the bug). You had free will, you made a decision, now it's time to accept the consequences.

[Zavier061]

Ok, so are there 2 errors? LM-17 & LM-11? If so is one perma and one temp? Anyone know yet? Call center not open her til almost noon QQ

[drwaffles]

LM-17, same as most people I know. Also called their support and was told it was permanent. And no, I don't think anyone should ever be perma-banned for their first offence, especially when the system is so inconsistent and some people manage to get away with multiple temporary suspensions. Temp bans are more than enough to instill the fear of God into most long-term FFXI players - there's no way in hell I'd ever risk doing anything remotely shady in-game again if I somehow managed to get my account back.

[Ferien]

Guess it had to happen eventually. Any way to tell based on the code if it's perma or temp? Hoping they didn't dole them out based on whether or not you were pt leader, though that's probably exactly what they did...

[[Cookies]]

You don't get 3 warnings for POS hacking anymore!

[Colenzo]

LM-17, same as most people I know. Also called their support and was told it was permanent. And no, I don't think anyone should ever be perma-banned for their first offence, especially when the system is so inconsistent and some people manage to get away with multiple temporary suspensions. Temp bans are more than enough to instill the fear of God into most long-term FFXI players - there's no way in hell I'd ever risk doing anything remotely shady in-game again if I somehow managed to get my account back.

rabble rabble FIGHT CLUB rabble rabble WHY DID YOU TALK ABOUT IT rabble rabble rabble OMFG ALL THOZ PPLZ rabble rabble rabble

[Destinye]

Lmao @ people saying it would be stupid of SE to perma ban people. Sure it's flawed design, but did you have to dupe items? No, so those of you banned are just as guilty and deserving of it, because it may be a flawed mechanic, but you could have easily reported instead of exploiting it. So it wouldn't be stupid of SE...it was stupid of those of you who exploited it thinking there would be no repercussions.