LM-17

[kayn]

but ya... thats too bad. People shouldnt say though "ohh im glad i got banned i needed to quit anyways" Sure in some way you may think that, but you know you want to keep playing.

I would have said that but I didn't get banned. Fk me for not knowing about the exploit.

[Mizango]

The scarlet letter?!


That'll lern 'em real gud.

[Anesti]

Imagine all the ppl that went on salvage runs just to buy and might have been banned along with the people doing it

[Arthars]

even they get perma titles like "Thieves", they can always form up their own LS

cheaters will regard cheaters as their most loyal friends and will not mock at one another

and that makes a successful LS!

[Diamicles]

Cept for that part where they exploited and got themselves, their friends and the ls bank banned I'd prolly agree.

I wasn't talking about his salvage shell, I was talking about the seperate endgame shell that you obviously have no idea that he ran. Please don't comment where you have no knowledge.

[Tubbers]

Real World Logic
Police>> You robbed a bank. You go to jail.

BG Logic
Police>> You robbed a bank. You go to jail.
Robber>> They shouldn't have made the bank robbable and just given me money because I wanted it
Police>> Good point. Don't try to find and rob any more banks.
Robber>> But it will be their fault for being robbable.
Police>> Good point again. Carry on.

Wow, not only is this example not even logically correct, it isn't even remotely analogous to the issue:

FFXI players pay for the service of playing FFXI. It is SE's responsibility to deliver a working game. The duping glitch was an example of SE failing miserably. The bug was known and reported many, many months before it was fixed. I recall several people mentioning reporting it during the initial findings of it. This is negligence on the part of SE. If someone pays you to take care of their dog, and you forget to put food in its bowl, it's your fucking fault if the dog starves to death or gets sick, etc. If someone comes and steals the dog, guess what it's your fault.

In this case, SE if failing to deliver the product s.t. there are known errors with the game which are left unattended for months and months and months, and rather than acting quickly to restore this, and issuing the players who abused it a stern warning, they wait and wait an wait, and simply ban the majority of the people using it?

Whether it is right or wrong, when an issue is known and ignored it is tacitly condoned.

To put this another way -- let's assume you're in a room with someone else, and you set some rules. Under no circumstances is the other person allowed to "exploit bugs". You don't want him to open the door to the outside and to ensure this, you ask your task force to make sure the deal is sealed and locked shut. Eventually a passerby opens the door from the outside, and it is discovered that the locks completely suck and don't work -- it's just a normal door. He tells you this. The other person in the room, witnessing the door opening, eventually opens it himself and then stares at you for 30 seconds. You say nothing. The other person then continues to open the door and use it. 5 months later you shoot the other person in the head and kill him, stating, "Motherfucker you opened the fucking door."

[PersianTaru]

Ive never botted, never used flee tool or pos tool, never MPK'd anyone(who didnt deserve it muahaha) Ive hardly even used windower, ONLY to 2box a short time. and Ive never stolen from people. Ive appreciated getting to meet and know people from around the world and having our adventures together. However, SE set the tone when they allowed RMT and cheaters to go on for years before they initiated their special fuck you force and now they are like "hahaha what were you thinking? WHAM! banned". After doing salvage for 2years and feeling frustrated and let down from not having any gear, I used the exploit for Usukane Body and Feet and now Im banned. There were people using the exploit to obtain hundreds of millions of gil from sandworm and they were temp. suspended.

Anyway, they are right to ban the deviants, but they have to remember that most of their players are kids and teenagers, not 60yo business men with PHD's who expect legality and such seriousness from a game and theres a better way to repair their careless image than to remove our friends from the game. So if you think that this was a bit harsh, please write to the US accounts manager at;

William Bisby
999 N. Sepulveda Blvd. 3rd Floor
El Segundo, CA 90245

1,000 players suspended/banned, postage is like 25cents so write a letter for yourself, and/or one for your friends who got banned and let them know what you think.

[SephYuyX]

Haay Kerbe, how's going on~ i will apply in your ls monday!

on how going, ls ur monday ban

[Day]

I wasn't talking about his salvage shell, I was talking about the seperate endgame shell that you obviously have no idea that he ran. Please don't comment where you have no knowledge.

Can I get a list of things I'm allowed to comment on?

[richardd]

minidragon? jackyl?

the only 2 i can think of, not sure if perma tho.
but by looking at the people that got perma-ed based on their magnitude of exploit, im pretty sure mini and jacky will get perma-ed........

it seems leaders gets the perma ban because based on logs, leaders give out instructions to members and prolly concrete enough to be the major exploiter

jackyl and me and dankster got 17.


11 is the perm, idk if mini has it or not.

[fren.]

hahahha

Order of the Blue Gartr - View Profile: Niki

Hahaha, what a waste

[Sho]

I'm with whoever said earlier that Minidragon might commit suicide if perma banned. x7 Relic Sash and shit, 24/7 LS and you get banned? God damn.

On the flipside I heard Shukudai got the ban after coming back to Carby too.

[Diamicles]

Can I get a list of things I'm allowed to comment on?

It wasn't a demand, it was a request. You can comment w/o knowledge on what ever you want, but it will just make you look foolish.

[Mizango]

even they get perma titles like "Thieves", they can always form up their own LS

cheaters will regard cheaters as their most loyal friends and will not mock at one another

Exactly, most botters aren't ashamed of botting just like it is obvious when someone with no LS, no crafts etc... buys gil. You saw the whole "Kira is justice" no one gave a shit after it was initially released, the people on the list kept their shells and kept participating in camping etc.... The whole "shame" thing or "mark" them is silly and would never work.

[Arthars]

Ive never botted, never used flee tool or pos tool, never MPK'd anyone(who didnt deserve it muahaha) Ive hardly even used windower, ONLY to 2box a short time. and Ive never stolen from people. Ive appreciated getting to meet and know people from around the world and having our adventures together. However, SE set the tone when they allowed RMT and cheaters to go on for years before they initiated their special fuck you force and now they are like "hahaha what were you thinking? WHAM! banned". After doing salvage for 2years and feeling frustrated and let down from not having any gear, I used the exploit for Usukane Body and Feet and now Im banned. There were people using the exploit to obtain hundreds of millions of gil from sandworm and they were temp. suspended.

Anyway, they are right to ban the deviants, but they have to remember that most of their players are kids and teenagers, not 60yo business men with PHD's who expect legality and such seriousness from a game and theres a better way to repair their careless image than to remove our friends from the game. So if you think that this was a bit harsh, please write to the US accounts manager at;

William Bisby
999 N. Sepulveda Blvd. 3rd Floor
El Segundo, CA 90245

1,000 players suspended/banned, postage is like 25cents so write a letter for yourself, and/or one for your friends who got banned and let them know what you think.

i feel for you, but still, you shouldnt let the chelonian and lolbees to get the better of you

good luck bro you deserve the ban

[Hogie]

jackyl and me and dankster got 17.


11 is the perm, idk if mini has it or not.

There is no 11 anymore. even if your a perma you will get LM-17 and then when the 3 days are up you will log in to a GM saying your banned.

[Day]

It wasn't a demand, it was a request. You can comment w/o knowledge on what ever you want, but it will just make you look foolish.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Tempyst]

Ive never botted, never used flee tool or pos tool, never MPK'd anyone(who didnt deserve it muahaha) Ive hardly even used windower, ONLY to 2box a short time. and Ive never stolen from people. Ive appreciated getting to meet and know people from around the world and having our adventures together. However, SE set the tone when they allowed RMT and cheaters to go on for years before they initiated their special fuck you force and now they are like "hahaha what were you thinking? WHAM! banned". After doing salvage for 2years and feeling frustrated and let down from not having any gear, I used the exploit for Usukane Body and Feet and now Im banned. There were people using the exploit to obtain hundreds of millions of gil from sandworm and they were temp. suspended.

Anyway, they are right to ban the deviants, but they have to remember that most of their players are kids and teenagers, not 60yo business men with PHD's who expect legality and such seriousness from a game and theres a better way to repair their careless image than to remove our friends from the game. So if you think that this was a bit harsh, please write to the US accounts manager at;

William Bisby
999 N. Sepulveda Blvd. 3rd Floor
El Segundo, CA 90245

1,000 players suspended/banned, postage is like 25cents so write a letter for yourself, and/or one for your friends who got banned and let them know what you think.

lol, make sure to leave in that bit about how you were breaking their terms of service which you agree to every time you log in

[Ker]

Here is what lost i don't remmber all relic holder so correct me if i'm wrong
Jhun Shield,sword
Mini Horn,Shield,Great katana,Scythe,Katana,Sword?
Aecstaa Scythe
Doompie Great katana

[hezzel]

jackyl and me and dankster got 17.


11 is the perm, idk if mini has it or not.

damn.

GL on stuff outside the game.