LM-17

[Ker]

I really doubt this day will be forgotten.

yeah I never would have thought in a million years this would happen to this extend

[Dimmauk]

You would think getting banned would humble some people. Unfortunately, the arrogance is still there. Now that all the "best players" are gone, how will any HNMs, ZNMs, etc.... ever get killed?

[MarkM.]

I say, once again

Real World Logic
Police>> You robbed a bank. You go to jail.

Bizzaro World Logic
Police>> You robbed a bank. You go to jail.
Robber>> They shouldn't have made the bank robbable and just given me money because I wanted it
Police>> Good point. Don't try to find and rob any more banks.
Robber>> But it will be their fault for being robbable.
Police>> Good point again. Carry on.

Lol, that's not a good comparison by any means. A better comparison would be tax fraud, or cooking the books of a small independent business. My duping of salvage items did not effect your game play.

Also, I never said what I did wasn't right. The one thing that sticks out to me more than anything is for all the people that are slamming the people that got suspended/banned, almost none of them are looking at the reason people were able to use this exploit. Poor programming on SE's part, and a lack of thorough testing.

Is it totally their fault? No
Do they share some of the responsibility for people being able to do this? Yes

[Day]

lol

[fren.]

perma or temp?

Perma I'm guessing(hoping) dumb fuck flaunted it like no one's business.

You guys just lost the people who pioneer more than half of endgame content for you and do most of the testing. Celebrate now, but next time SE releases an event it'll be your buffer that suffers.

What a queer.

[Silenka]

[edit] scratch that

Siren's pretty clean as far as I know. I don't think it was done much here, at least not by NAs. JPs on the other hand (and they are getting the banstick equally afaik), I bet a bunch of them got banned...

Curious if anyone else knows Siren names. =/

[Epical]

WOooooooooooosh.

Hopefully that was to me. I'd be glad to be whooshed in this case. D:

[Wuuuuu]

It's kind of funny the way people say the game's going to be hopeless without all these amazing people.

Will my Dynamis Shell still be able to farm Tavnazia now all of them have been banned? Will we be able to kill Dynamis Lord still without all of these amazing players on the server? HOLD THE FUCK UP, there's no way we'll be able to do anything whatsoever with these players gone, or learn ANYTHING at all about future events ourselves.

Well actually, yes we will.

Osnap. Perhaps they're not the centre of this game after all!

[TacoTaru]

people that have helped develop our knowledge of the game (kaeko, wafik, and others).

This is what I'm most sad about. If some of these people are permabanned and don't come back, that's going to be a considerable step back future testing that would be done.

[Cairthenn]

He's got his new toon to 72 PLD, Sky access, and about 45% of his currency towards Aegis.

He's not online.

[Day]

You would think getting banned would humble some people. Unfortunately, the arrogance is still there. Now that all the "best players" are gone, how will any HNMs, ZNMs, etc.... ever get killed?

Yeah they should really watch what they say, they are going to make their linkshell look awful.

wait.

[Neosutra]

Jesus christ with the wooshes.

[Nekio]

Double whoosh?

[Tempyst]

Of course, I forgot that every player of this game is actually an android.

Please forgive me for ever assuming ethics and morals from our everyday lives should come into effect on a game.

Gosh I am silly!

Please tell someone who was the victim or relative of a victim of rape/murder how your analogy isn't completely lacking in perspective

[Epical]

This is what I'm most sad about. If some of these people are permabanned and don't come back, that's going to be a considerable step back future testing that would be done.

I think Kaeko is only temp, but yes I agree, losing those who have greatly contributed does indeed suck.

[Wuuuuu]

Loving the sig Day!

I wonder if that rhino used a dupe trick to get that treadmill? Hmm.. Did he get LM-#'d too? ;;

[Wuuuuu]

Please tell someone who was the victim or relative of a victim of rape/murder how your analogy isn't completely lacking in perspective

Epic whoosh, lol.

[thetruepandagod]

Not all of the 500 perma banned are the best players, no doubt, but we definately lost a shit ton of the game leaders from this, and alot of relic/server leaders. 2/3rds of the current mythics, probably 50+ relics gone, and people that have helped develop our knowledge of the game (kaeko, wafik, and others). If you think the servers wont notice/miss 500 well geared knowledgable players, then Im not sure what you're smoking.

without a doubt i agree i was a fan of both kaeko and wafik and briefly talked to wafik back in the day on BG vent and he was helpful and it will hurt alot of endgame knowledge, was just kind of irritated that the phrase "the best are gone" was being tossed around constantly when a lot of these people were just ur average endgame players that had opportunity turn into a kick in the ass. My only point was that endgame will continue not necessarily as well as before but it will definitely continue.

Also lolsylph still stuck in its own world unaffected by all =3

[MarkM.]

The reason that the bismarck list is so big is that most of the people on there are all from the same group of linkshells. I think almost all of the people on there are probably from Discoid, Nine Inch Ninjas, or Foreal.

[Kimiko]

Have their been any confirmed casualties from Siren at this point?