LM-17

[LordshadowRagnarok]

*Retarded crap*

That little "I accept" button that you hit every time you logged in, did you ever read what you accepted? It basically can be summed up as "We can delete your account at any time without a reason, be glad when we have a reason and shut up you QQing bitch."

[Mizango]

*Flame suit*

Yes my one was permanent. One thing I'm only really annoyed about in their selection was the fact that half my salvage group got LM'd, the other half didn't, and most of them are in our LS so I know we didn't dupe things like sandworm which we don't fight - Why so selective? What made me get the ban and them get the letter, why didn't we all get a letter / ban? It's really stupid in that department. You can say "It was in the ToS all along" but show me someone who actually reads the whole thing before playing a game or installing software aside from legal teams.

Another annoyance is the fact it was just a 1 hit and you're out, rather than 3 strikes or even 2 strikes. Had I gotten a warning I'd known they were serious about it. If SE knew all this time - they should have placed a warning saying anyone caught duping will be banned and they know people are doing it and to stop immediately, but they did not, instead of that they silently did it while people were still going. I'd gladly return anything to get my main back, so I can distribute my stuff to my LS , but it's just kind of lame that they took this approach to it - especially to those loyal customers who have been playing since 04 , the ones that were going to keep paying & playing till the servers shut down, those people should get cut some slack.

But anyway someone's bound to point fingers and call me a cheater and ignore all I said because I am me

To all my friends - was a nice time playing with you.
To all the people who hate me because of my posts on the internet - grow up.

Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu QQQQQQ

[Melios]

This thread exploded faster than the original Salvage fix thread.

[Weeks]

Seeing they are camping atm I would say no.

Let me guess: 20 WAR5s and every new recruit from the last two months.

[Wuuuuu]

Can you shut up already?

TIA

Me thinks Aurik got banned.

And if not banned, knows someone who did.

I mean really?

I'm going to shutup because you told me too... Nice logic.

Not American either!

[BerenTebogo]

Me thinks Aurik got banned, lol.

And if not banned, knows someone who did.

I mean really.

I'm going to shutup because you told me too... Nice logic.

Fucking retarded, jesus christ.

Also, that's about all I have to add to this thread. That and another god dammit at Lyra for gipping me out of Nagi info.

[tyven]

Me thinks Aurik got banned.

And if not banned, knows someone who did.

I mean really?

I'm going to shutup because you told me too... Nice logic.

EPIC LOLZ

[fren.]

Seeing they are camping atm I would say no.

Some dedicated bitches those are, do they have a Gjalla bard?

[chapstick]

L2 read, he didn't get banned, he's been playing WoW retard.

[Lordwafik]

Me thinks Aurik got banned, lol.

Nope

[Slaxer]

"if you discover any problems with the game system, please submit a GM call or fill out the feedback e-mail form to report the problems to us, instead of exploiting or spreading the issue."

Now i did not get banned, or temp banned, nor do i care about exploits. but i have a problem with this sentence... SE should either A: pay me to debug their system B: let me play for free to debug their system C: don't ban people for their own noob coding. What if someone did it only once!? on accident? did they get banned too? I don't think that's fair to do that IMO. Now if you performed this exploit constantly, even though according to the players Alexandrite is still broken which i can agree with, It doesn't give you the power to take matters into your own hands, just because a murderer in real life who killed your mother was acquitted doesn't mean you have the divine power to kill the person and not expect to get away with it yourself you know? but none the less, those who were hardly affected who maybe obtained 15 alexandrite and 100% drop item off an NM in Salvage is a little harsh...

lastly, I don't care if what you think about what I say is retarded, tear into me or w/e make me feel like a noob...

[BRP]

Duping has always been one-strike as far I've ever been able to gather. It's unfortunate because I am starting to get the idea nobody knew that.

As for the cases of someone getting nothing and still getting banned... being there is probably enough for them to get hit with it. SE probably perceives it as someone who was basically trying to profit from it. Who is to say they didn't lot or wouldn't want to lot? You would certainly know people are doing it at the time. I can only guess because no one has given much testimony on it and SE hasn't really spoke their mind yet.

EDIT: Also, shit wasn't harsh. 52 pages and still on that.

EDIT 2: "Toons", fuck that.

[tyven]

BUT HE KNOWS SOMEONE WHO DID

[Kuwait-cafe]

Ill Just leave this right here

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[Wuuuuu]

Nope

Lol, very nicely done

[kimble]

man this is cool, my ffxiAH rank is gonna go up '-'

[aurik]

Nope

Gawwwwww I look so good~~~~

If you are perma-perma and want to keep playing, use Aurik!

PS. thanks for that shieldy mask thing, as you can see I have it hung in my MH

[Virg]

**Disclaimer: This post is a long wall-o-text. It contains personal views you may or may not agree with. Only read if your bored and able to consider someone's else feelings, otherwise ignore me**

Lets all remember the W-Item materia glitch in FF7. Oh and the fact you could level your characters in FF12 while being AFK. These are glitches that people gladly taken advantage of in FF games for years. And really, if your gonna tell me you played FF7 and didn't take advantage of duping items there, you are full of it.

The difference is, your save data in FF7 can't be "punished" however, in FFXI it can. If people find a exploit in your game, we're going to abuse it. No matter who you are. Weather its the innocent people "only" using windower/recast/distance/TParty and exploiting a 3rd party program thats NOT part of the original game design, or the one's who dupe drops. Both parties are guilty of "making the game easier" in some way.

Look, FFXI is just another videogame made by Square that contains a few flaws/exploits, its not the first time we abused one of them. Of course we knew its breaking the game, just like the exploits in previous games, make us cheaters? Yes. Bad people who deserve to be banned and lose seeing our friends daily? I think not.

Square-Enix, with their moral high japanese honorable values, would rather see a financial decrease in their FFXI income by just banning players, because they know (as well as those of you not in denial) FFXI is a dying, out-dated, tedious video game that is the laughing stock of the gaming community(Need I remind you all of this years fanfest being the last one?). They know its time to move on to new games, new battle systems, better graphics, and they damn well know the old hardware of PS2 keeps FFXI limited from being upgraded.

From a financial point of view, banning this many players is losing steady income they have had for years. What's SE banking on now? Certainly its not FFXI, with our player base being low compared to WoW's 15,000,000+ Maybe they are hoping to make huge gross income from FF13, a game that's been in the making what, 3.5 years now? Why don't they just make a new trailer for the FF7 remake that they say will never come out. That's time well spent.

Point is: FFXI is just another poorly designed game that some players exploited. Yeah sure its our fault for taking the chance but look at it like this: SE didn't say "If you don't stop duping we will ban you" and don't pull the "ToS says this card" because I will cut you. Windower is against ToS rules yet most PC players used that before "FFXI windowed mode" (And still do)

If tomorrow, SE would say "We can trace those who have used TParty/Distance/Recast. Stop using it or we will ban you" most players would quit it instantly. Because lets face it, your making the game "easier" like us dupers. And don't give me the "But windower never hurt anyone" card. Point is, neither did duping items, both things are being used to make the game more enjoyable.

I see people quit FFXI all the time because they "can't get high level" or "can't get help" or i love this one "lfg for hours" This poorly designed videogame is tedious, repetitive, and very frustrating when it comes to salvage drops. if you enjoy seeing empty treasure pools and spending 100 minutes of your life every day with full confidence that your getting your $12.95 a month's worth. Then by all means, play FF and do Salvage and bash those of us who tried to make things easier. Or if you can see eye-to-eye with me and realize SE is insane and went too far by banning sources of their own company's income, then look rationally upon how dramatic it is to punish people who just wanted to make their harsh game, a little more enjoyable..

1. If FFXI is as you say so poorly designed and sucks in general anyway then why the fuck
did you even play it in the first place?

2. You got to be really butthurt over being banned for duping drops in Salvage to post
a huge fucking wall-o-text full of shit on a forum dedicated to the "poorly designed
game that sucks because the graphics are shitty and because you don´t get top gear
handed out to your ass with no effort like in WoW" you apparently played for a few
years.

3. I saw it coming that a fuckton of people will get banned and I don´t feel it being a bad
move by SE whatsoever.

4. Now who thinks we gonna see loads of "XXX-LS on XXX-Server recruiting players" in the
Cross Server Application thread.

[Mizango]

Did Ashira get hammared?

I hadn't seen her on all day or on iirc.

[Cow_k]

To all the people who hate me because of the words that I choose to represent myself with - grow up.

I love how many people think that the internet makes them clear of any wrongdoings they may do. It's like alcohol really. Tell that to some of the people who have been fired from their jobs because of shit on their facebook pages etc.