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[Massimo]

There's nothing wrong with Avalon Breastplate if you don't got Shura, Enkidu's or Usukane.
Why post gimps if you don't know what's good?

I could argue that your RDM is gimp, you don't idle in a refresh piece. Not like Vermy is expensive anymore.

[Shin Volcano]

There's nothing wrong with Avalon Breastplate if you don't got Shura, Enkidu's or Usukane.
Why post gimps if you don't know what's good?

I could argue that your RDM is gimp, you don't idle in a refresh piece. Not like Vermy is expensive anymore.

Well there is SH...but i personaly hate it. Avalon is quite expensive to use as an alternative.

[Massimo]

Well there is SH...but i personaly hate it. Avalon is quite expensive to use as an alternative.

SH is less accuracy, even the HQ. He could have the Avalon for PLD, or simply have Avalon pre-one of the above three (Because, yeah, it's better than SH).

[Shin Volcano]

I didnt exactly deny the use of avalon, just stating what other alternative there is.

[Avarice]

Rule #1: Never try to defend yourself.

[Shin Volcano]

Who's going to stop me!?

And ava i'm scared of you just off your sig.. i don't want to ask what turns you on <.<

[Mrdude]

My red mage is gimp, I've said it multiple times, and tell people so when asked to use it.

Hell, the application I just put in for a hnmls told them that it is terrible geared, nq staves and the like.

I do not give a shit about rdm at all, which is the reason it is gimp, but, atleast my equip choices make sense. Ie: Shinsoku > Onimaru, Flame ring > acc ring, etc etc.

Sure, Avalon isnt the worst choice for a body piece on monk, but there are so many better pieces, which he clearly has access to. Hes in a endgame shell, wearing sniper+1's etc. Its not like Shura is out of reach.

You do realize I didn't post the monk, right? That's because he was much better geared then most, just pointing out that there are better alternatives to Avalon body which are much easier to obtain.

You want the screenshot? here it is.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...1_211834-1.jpg

[Massimo]

Rule #1: Never try to defend yourself.

Who exactly is defending themself?

My red mage is gimp, I've said it multiple times, and tell people so when asked to use it.

Hell, the application I just put in for a hnmls told them that it is terrible geared, nq staves and the like.

I do not give a shit about rdm at all, which is the reason it is gimp, but, atleast my equip choices make sense. Ie: Shinsoku > Onimaru, Flame ring > acc ring, etc etc.

Sure, Avalon isnt the worst choice for a body piece on monk, but there are so many better pieces, which he clearly has access to. Hes in a endgame shell, wearing sniper+1's etc. Its not like Shura is out of reach.

You do realize I didn't post the monk, right? That's because he was much better geared then most, just pointing out that there are better alternatives to Avalon body which are much easier to obtain.

You want the screenshot? here it is.

There's nothing wrong with that monk. Fact is though, you mentioned Avalon Breastplate as being gimp, when it is not. He could be unlucky with D.Body droprates, be too busy with other shit to do Sky anymore, who the fuck knows.

[Mrdude]

I didn't once say it was "gimp", the reference in tells was more so that a monk was wearing a avalon breastplate, when I had terrible luck with it dropping or us even getting KA before I quit.

[Massimo]

I didn't once say it was "gimp", the reference in tells was more so that a monk was wearing a avalon breastplate, when I had terrible luck with it dropping or us even getting KA before I quit.

MNK was wearing Avalon body too, ijdk why, the rest of his gear was pretty good.

Yeah..

[Avarice]

Who's going to stop me!?

And ava i'm scared of you just off your sig.. i don't want to ask what turns you on <.<

I actually wasn't referring to you. I was talking about the WAR above who justified his equip as "not wearing Sniper's +1."

[Okan]

I actually wasn't referring to you. I was talking about the WAR above who justified his equip as "not wearing Sniper's +1."

He was in town. Just saying.

Onimaru - Bahamut - FFXIAH.com

Cheaper and better.

Shinsoku - Bahamut - FFXIAH.com

Also, clearly needed to quote my whole post to say that, right?

On my server, Shinsoku is cheaper. Serious question: How effective is the TP Drain? Maybe that is leading to a huge misconception?

Not awful, but thick sollerets? -.- not like dusk is expensive anymore.

35k versus 330k.

And isn't there something better for SAM than Askar Dirs? Seems more a BST/DRG item.

[Mrdude]

yeah, RK pants is better than Askar Dirs

No clue on shinsoku proc rate, I'm not a sam, but I think it is really low.

As for the comment I made on the monk, yeah, I didn't say it was "gimp" but if he can manage to get gear from hnms and end game, how hard can kirin be? The difference between Dbody and Avalon body is huge, and atleast half the shells on fairy are rotting the abj, wouldn't be too hard to bum it off another shell. My old shell used to give D bodies away to people who asked.

[Drex]

1) The TP drain is terrible. Shinsoku sucks, people just used to think it was good because it was expensive and no one did Sheep to test Hagun out.
2) What's wrong with a war using thick feet? They probably don't have dusk or aurum and are saving up/haven't gotten drop yet.
3) The WAR in xarc probably hit WS macro cause they were gonna be running around soon and he has dusk in his TP gear. There are a couple melee in my LS that do it instead of manually taking their dusk off, and it's a lot easier.

[S N K]

Another Nyzul find..... how the fuck do I get these guys?



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36...122_183429.png



*edit* BTW, that's a Venerer's ring.

I've seen waaaaaay worse then this. Some people arn't super rich so I can forgive this DRG because at least the gear he's wearing won't have any negative impact on him too much. Assault Jerkin to be fair is the best body a DRG can obtain without getting Homam, Askar or lolBarone.

[Mrdude]

I don't understand why he wouldn't use turban atleast, though.

[S N K]

yeah, RK pants is better than Askar Dirs

No clue on shinsoku proc rate, I'm not a sam, but I think it is really low.

As for the comment I made on the monk, yeah, I didn't say it was "gimp" but if he can manage to get gear from hnms and end game, how hard can kirin be? The difference between Dbody and Avalon body is huge, and atleast half the shells on fairy are rotting the abj, wouldn't be too hard to bum it off another shell. My old shell used to give D bodies away to people who asked.

I can agree with this but you know some shells have amazingly shit luck with drops sometimes. Zinzo on Fairy who used to lead my Salvage runs has a Kikoku NIN, Black Belt and fully geared up MNK but for the multiple kirins he attended, D-Body just wouldn't ever fucking drop or if it did he was at work.

The only thing I would say that MNK should lose is the Ammo slot because for MNK you're better off with Tiphia Sting or Black Tathum if you can afford it along with the Ioti Ring. He should just put in a Snipers or Woodsman or the ToAU Acc+4 Ring and use that instead.

Hell CreamSoda could probably point out a few wrong things with that mnk. I don't even use my MNK hardly and it's in better shape then that guy's MNK.

Edit: Yeah I didn't even realize he wasn't using a Turban.

[Guitarman]

Assuming he has 8/8 h2h, the grenade is fine. I use it and have no issues with accuracy. Only things i'd change are body to shura and iota ring to woodsman/sniper/blood(one from znm idr which).

[Mrdude]

Whats wrong with iota ring?
for single hand wielders, it gives the same (or one less, depending on your dex) accuracy, while benifiting from the dex. If you weren't getting the extra accuracy from it to make it equal to a +5 ring, then I would agree if you were fighting something harder, but for nyzul it is easily a better choice.

[S N K]

Even when the Ultham's Ring gives you STR+4 and DEX+4 added when in Nyzul? Let me rephrase that actually If he has the CoP DD ring he'd be an idiot to not use that in Assault or Nyzul Isle. But for a MNK I wouldn't use an Iota Ring. Woodsman, Sniper's or Ultham Ring over Iota is just better.

I use Iota on DRG because loltwohanders/dex/WSmod but for Hand to Hand since it's different from the norm i.e. your skill plays a huge factor in your accuracy damage and attack compared to Single Handed weapons that he would just be better off using something besides that ring.