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[Silenka]

fuck, you found me

Saw that one coming! Also I think (but not 100% sure) that .dat everyone is bitching about was done by Mooshywooshy...who is actually a very good artist/dat maker... and a pretty nice guy from what I've seen so idk.

[Kohan]

Yes, it's his "Pretty Pretty Paladin" mod. It's designed to look like bulky yet girly anime armor, and I believe it pulled that off perfectly.

o.O.o Final Fantasy XI Dats o.O.o - Pretty Pretty Paladin

Whether you like it or not is mostly up to personal opinion. It is a quality dat, but it is a very specific style that people will either enjoy or despise. I'm not really a big fan of it, but I respect it for pulling off what it was meant to.

[Avarice]

Yes, it's his "Pretty Pretty Paladin" mod. It's designed to look like bulky yet girly anime armor, and I believe it pulled that off perfectly.

o.O.o Final Fantasy XI Dats o.O.o - Pretty Pretty Paladin

"This is fantabulous!!"

[Thorny]

Gimp is gimp. It's not "OK" to not own half of your spells, just like it's not "OK" to fulltime STR rings.

The chances of a competent party leader wanting you to use -2 nukes on RDM are about the same as those of a competent party leader wanting you to wear a sipahi bodypiece on your PLD -> 0%. If you expect a RDM to know spells that are entirely useless for them, why not expect melee to carry gear that's entirely useless for them?

[FailureMidgard]

The chances of a competent party leader wanting you to use -2 nukes on RDM are about the same as those of a competent party leader wanting you to wear a sipahi bodypiece on your PLD -> 0%. If you expect a RDM to know spells that are entirely useless for them, why not expect melee to carry gear that's entirely useless for them?

This, but I think a better analogy would be expecting a lvl 50 samurai to carry a full set of vit/defense gear in case he has hate with 3rd eye down.

[Mayareira]

The chances of a competent party leader wanting you to use -2 nukes on RDM are about the same as those of a competent party leader wanting you to wear a sipahi bodypiece on your PLD -> 0%. If you expect a RDM to know spells that are entirely useless for them, why not expect melee to carry gear that's entirely useless for them?

Tier II spells aren't "entirely useless". If you are lazy enough to farm 70k(or 40-50k)~ for those then you are probably just as lazy to farm for a decent MND/enfeebling skill build.

By the time you write an essay about the usefulness of those spells you could've bought them off the NPC and sell them up on the AH to make a quick 40-50k. They are *that* cheap.

[Aksannyi]

I don't know, I seem to remember doing some MBs on RDM with my Tier 2 nukes when I was leveling it. If you're level syncing you might end up somewhere like CN where MBing is pretty effective. I was doing nearly as much damage as the BLMs, when I was able to watch for and hit the MB without fucking up my cycles. I wouldn't call those spells useless by any means.

Situational, yes, but I can remember plenty of times I nuked as a RDM.

And let's be real, everyone is gimp on their first job, regardless of what they spent their money on (spells, arrows, tools, etc.) to get there. That's just how it is.

[BadKarma]

And let's be real, everyone is gimp on their first job, regardless of what they spent their money on (spells, arrows, tools, etc.) to get there. That's just how it is.

Truth

[Avarice]

Truth

I don't like your new avatar.

[BadKarma]

I don't like your new avatar.

; ;

[Thorny]

I don't know, I seem to remember doing some MBs on RDM with my Tier 2 nukes when I was leveling it. If you're level syncing you might end up somewhere like CN where MBing is pretty effective. I was doing nearly as much damage as the BLMs, when I was able to watch for and hit the MB without fucking up my cycles. I wouldn't call those spells useless by any means.

Situational, yes, but I can remember plenty of times I nuked as a RDM.

And let's be real, everyone is gimp on their first job, regardless of what they spent their money on (spells, arrows, tools, etc.) to get there. That's just how it is.

CN doesn't make SCing or bringing a BLM more acceptable, you can still pull 12-15k/hr TP burning hornflies with piercing DD.

Tier II spells aren't "entirely useless". If you are lazy enough to farm 70k(or 40-50k)~ for those then you are probably just as lazy to farm for a decent MND/enfeebling skill build.

By the time you write an essay about the usefulness of those spells you could've bought them off the NPC and sell them up on the AH to make a quick 40-50k. They are *that* cheap.

If they aren't entirely useless, name a situation where it's practical to use them in today's game please. They total 92k at npc with capped fame, while it's not a lot to a player with other 75 jobs, it's still a decent amount to a person leveling their first job like the RDM that it was originally brought up because of.

[Midnightjade]

Tier II spells aren't "entirely useless". If you are lazy enough to farm 70k(or 40-50k)~ for those then you are probably just as lazy to farm for a decent MND/enfeebling skill build.

By the time you write an essay about the usefulness of those spells you could've bought them off the NPC and sell them up on the AH to make a quick 40-50k. They are *that* cheap.

Heh, I sometimes burst my own skillchains on DRK just for the hell of it. >.> Supposedly useless spells can be a lot of fun. Gogo Magic Burst! for 7dmg.

And yes I know DRK aren't supposed to use elemental magic. Or skillchain. So sue me.

[Avarice]

; ;

Sorta better, lol

[Mayareira]

Like I mentioned somewhere above, Snoll Tzar is one. Would you really be comfortable with saying "Sorry, I don't have Fire II and my Elemental Magic skill is 5." if someone asked you to chainspell Fire II? Are you planning to melee Razon if you happen to solo "Fire in the Sky" ENM? Would't you want to solo your own wyvern at Riverne Site instead of begging for help? Seriously, I simply can't imagine a newbie ignoring the entire set of tier II s and his offensive magic. You can nuke TW shit for fun, take different roles in BCNMs, solo stuff, take screenshots and post them on your facebook etc.

Oh and BLM sub. Would it be acceptable for a RDM level his BLM sub without ANY tier II nukes(assuming that he takes it up to level 40 for Warp II)? A level 40 BLM gets up to Fire II.

"Gimping" your elemental magic entirely doesn't worth the 30-40k you'll make from it, sorry. If you are THAT broke, level the job properly and go spam Fire in the Sky every 5 days.

[Skylark]

Lol, yup nice Bazaar comment, really needs to learn first how to abbrv. Paladin and hard to believe he has 2 75 jobs with that terrible equip ;;

[Thorny]

Like I mentioned somewhere above, Snoll Tzar is one. Would you really be comfortable with saying "Sorry, I don't have Fire II and my Elemental Magic skill is 5." if someone asked you to chainspell Fire II? Are you planning to melee Razon if you happen to solo "Fire in the Sky" ENM? Would't you want to solo your own wyvern at Riverne Site instead of begging for help? Seriously, I simply can't imagine a newbie ignoring the entire set of tier II s and his offensive magic. You can nuke TW shit for fun, take different roles in BCNMs, solo stuff, take screenshots and post them on your facebook etc.

Oh and BLM sub. Would it be acceptable for a RDM level his BLM sub without ANY tier II nukes(assuming that he takes it up to level 40 for Warp II)? A level 40 BLM gets up to Fire II.

"Gimping" your elemental magic entirely doesn't worth the 30-40k you'll make from it, sorry. If you are THAT broke, level the job properly and go spam Fire in the Sky every 5 days.

Snoll has been nerfed so badly that as a RDM you're much better off just chainspelling cures for the whopping 2 melee it takes to kill it before it explodes(SAM/RNG can even solo it >_>). RDM/BLM is inferior for the vast majority of situations(sleepga is level 31, so you only get it in 75 cap.. conserve mp is admittedly nice but /sch destroys it by saving more mp and keeping most of the -nas you'd get with /whm in addition to another bit of fast cast.. aspir doesn't stick well on any ToAU exp targets since eruca have no mp, colibri reflect it, imps resist it), I'd rather they either spend the time farming or leveling /SCH provided they already have /WHM. Fire in the sky requires a few CoP missions done and drops jack shit 95% of the time, and not everyone on their first job does CoP before they level, blahblahblah. Once you get 75, you bother with optional subs like /blm and capping your elemental magic.. until then who gives a fuck? You're not in their party when they're trying to solo razon, if they're expected to nuke snoll the group is doinitrong, and most importantly.. IF YOU ARE WASTING MP ON NUKING IN EXP(EVEN WITH CAPPED SKILL/HQ STAFFS/ETC) AS A RDM YOU ARE FAR MORE GIMP THAN A RDM WITHOUT THE SPELLS or your party is retarded and has 2 healers, in which case you should leave anyway.

[Seraphus]

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...SinyaAegis.jpg


Does this picture make any other paladins out there start crying?

Someone tried to say its a full max hp set, in which case the feet/legs are still gimp.

[Kipling]

lol. That was fast.

[Max™]

Yeah, the legs/feet are a little baffling to me as well.

Also, not everyone is super gimpy on their first job, but I stopped leveling to buy key pieces of gear beforehand, hauby in pocket at 50, am +1 at 55.

[Mayareira]

Snoll has been nerfed so badly that as a RDM you're much better off just chainspelling cures for the whopping 2 melee it takes to kill it before it explodes(SAM/RNG can even solo it >_>). RDM/BLM is inferior for the vast majority of situations(sleepga is level 31, so you only get it in 75 cap.. conserve mp is admittedly nice but /sch destroys it by saving more mp and keeping most of the -nas you'd get with /whm in addition to another bit of fast cast.. aspir doesn't stick well on any ToAU exp targets since eruca have no mp, colibri reflect it, imps resist it), I'd rather they either spend the time farming or leveling /SCH provided they already have /WHM. Fire in the sky requires a few CoP missions done and drops jack shit 95% of the time, and not everyone on their first job does CoP before they level, blahblahblah. Once you get 75, you bother with optional subs like /blm and capping your elemental magic.. until then who gives a fuck? You're not in their party when they're trying to solo razon, if they're expected to nuke snoll the group is doinitrong, and most importantly.. IF YOU ARE WASTING MP ON NUKING IN EXP(EVEN WITH CAPPED SKILL/HQ STAFFS/ETC) AS A RDM YOU ARE FAR MORE GIMP THAN A RDM WITHOUT THE SPELLS or your party is retarded and has 2 healers, in which case you should leave anyway.

Elemental Magic is gimp, leveling subjobs properly is gimp, mission progress is gimp, soloing enms are gimp.
You could've tele whored and made more than enough for entire tier II set by the time you complete your post above.

Jesus, no wonder every fucking new RDM suck nowadays.