R.I.P. Players

[Day]

I COMPLETELY agree with this.

As a game designer, you have to create some kind of identification with your character. If you don't create attachment, then people will come and go as they please and you will not generate customer loyalty. So unless you have 10 million subscribers, you are basically ensuring your own obsolescence.

Even if a MMO designer has to blatantly rip off FFXI's class system, creating character attachment would help to keep the players with your game like crack.

I mean look at us? We are playing a 6 year old game, with archaic game design and a development staff that is only truly responsive to one part of the games populous.

And we fucking love it.

Agree 100% this is the key thing that makes FFXI better than most other mmo's out there. You have one character, one name, and your reputation sticks with that name. You get to know a lot of people on your server and there is just a whole lot more community when 1 person doesn't have 6-10 characters. I've always thought other mmo's should have just blantly stole this system.

[ringthree]

Agree 100% this is the key thing that makes FFXI better than most other mmo's out there. You have one character, one name, and your reputation sticks with that name. You get to know a lot of people on your server and there is just a whole lot more community when 1 person doesn't have 6-10 characters. I've always thought other mmo's should have just blantly stole this system.

I have to credit SE on this one, they followed a tradition they created in RPG's and combined it with their tradition of creating games that are like crack to some players.

[ninjafox]

Awww you can't change your job class in Aion? Nevermind...

[Xerlic]

I'm convinced that the multiple jobs on one character thing is what kept FFXI alive for as long as it has been running.

[Gaea]

We'd talk about this a little in our Nyzul and Salvage group and people would ask for the link to "the list". I made a custom tinyurl for it if anyone feels like using it.

http://tinyurl.com/bannedplayers
Oh, BG is sneaky.  They made a link out of my tinyurl.
So here it is in "code" tag.

Links to first page of the thread.

Besides that, though, I wanted to say, sadly, Vagus, Goodrats, and Willriker are permanent bans on Odin if you want to bold them.

Vagus and Willriker were great guys I've done Einherjar, Salvage, and Nyzul Isle with. Vagus was nice enough to invite me to Einherjar back when nobody would do it and he knew I was struggling to try to generate interest back-in-the-day because I wanted my Animator +1. It was with that group I also got my first Odin kill. Willriker, I did Nyzul Isle with a few times and he was always a nice guy to be around in my experience. Goodrats was another Maat's Cap tarutaru that I'd see around here and there, though we didn't do much.

It's sad to see they got caught up with this and were selected for permanent bans. I'm even hearing about people getting permanently banned for just duplicating cells. While I whole heartedly agree with gear confiscation using this exploit, I understand that SE may be aware that triplicated rare gear from Sandworm drops were an astronomical profit that were likely sold and the gear can't be confiscated, and rare/ex gear was also sold for a profit such as with Jackyl's group selling triplicated Salvage equipment.

I know that Vagus and Willriker weren't large scale operators, just people that looked the other way and were only involved in that brief moment when the "secret" became mass public.

As someone that does Salvage, it would have been more frustrating to me last night when Citadel Chelonian dropped his morrigan 15 head and a coinpurse if there wasn't any punishment for people getting this to drop in threes. However, I do think the bulk of SE's punishments were a bit harsh. While I agree everyone on that list deserved a temporary ban and gear confiscation, I think the people should have been only considered for permanent bans after a more thorough investigation. I think the bulk of the bans should have focused on dissemination of the exploit rather than those who just looked the other way.


C'est la vie. Hopefully, this will make people more eager to report an exploit, rather than risk their accounts and others. It's not worth an Incus Cell and a couple extra pieces of Alexandrite to have your character deleted guys.

[isladar]

No bards in Nyzul.

[Rocl]

No bards in Nyzul.

People were banned for duping incus cells.

[isladar]

People were banned for duping incus cells.

I'd've done that fucking twice.

[Rocl]

I'd've done that fucking twice.

Why would you need six incus cells, jeez. It's not like you have bards in Salvage, with their need for Joyeuse and Manteel to melee.

[isladar]

Do the extra incus cells increase DA proc?

[Rocl]

Well Monks do need an incus cell for each fist...

[isladar]

I think we're on to something.

[Day]

I think we're on to something.

Wish it was me :3

[Gaea]

Some people said they were banned for just duping cells. I was going to say Velum Cells, which tend to be even more worthless, but I thought it was so worthless people might have to go look up which one that one was and it wouldn't be as funny.

[Rocl]

Using two of the same stat cell should provide you with +30 to that stat too..

[Devek]

I tried that the other day, but the cell just paralyzed me and I ended up with a negative stat.

[Karbuncle]

On Asura Server.

Mahado isn't perma banned, Hes back online know =D

[Celebrindor]

didn't see any updates to the Pandemonium list (which I know is far too short, however, not my place to comment on most), but wanted to post in the thread for accuracy.

Etherion and Nonolepyro both permabanned. LimitBreakLS Dynamis shell is going through fixing the void at leadership. I know, just a Dynamis shell- however one that has existed since August 2005 without interruption or massive drama. Both will be sorely missed in terms of friendship, stable leadership, and the atmosphere of total transparency they instilled in LimitbreakLS.

I know Etherion had several (if not 5/5) Morrigan pieces, 100+3 Leathercraft (several dusk gloves+1 lost), along with a host of king gear. Nono I don't know as much about gear wise, I know his second char had morrigan's robe and I believe his main had 8+ pieces of Salvage gear.

Best of luck on the other side of the screen to all those hit by this.

[Osede]

Agree 100% this is the key thing that makes FFXI better than most other mmo's out there. You have one character, one name, and your reputation sticks with that name. You get to know a lot of people on your server and there is just a whole lot more community when 1 person doesn't have 6-10 characters. I've always thought other mmo's should have just blantly stole this system.

Multiple job per character with the great subjob keep the game alive.


In other hand, guild wardoes introduce subjob system too, but end up the subjob doesnt matter. Eveyrone use their main job skill only.

[Sephiroth_Owa 13]

Seems like Wopa is back but starting over on a new char. Name Wopa.