Sheep in Antlion's Clothing

[Hioki]

As you mentioned, a full DMG% gear for just the Sneak Attack is good, but as mentioned earlier, you need to use your real melee set for the NM/Pets or your wyvern will take hate.

I think that sorta came without saying. Holding hate off the wyvern hasn't really been the issue so it doesn't bother me to switch to my DMG-% set then back to my normal DD/solo set. The idea of the set is to completely offset any extra damage you will take from the pop. Also, not to mention that just because you only take 440 dmg from the initial pop he also has double attack and will get his first round of attacks before you will engage. When you add to that you could be taking somewhere about 600-700 dmg total. Make a full set and make your macros to make it work, should not be any reason you can not do that.

[Hioki]

Just to make sure, are the DRG solos also using Apradar? Or is DRG able to clear the boss and some/all of the pets?

If your at the top of the game you can clear one pop extra with being able to move out of distance like atoml mentioned. I've won on 360 but it definitely falls to luck, Using Apradar or dat modding would make this very easy in comparison.

[stewie]

Just to make sure, are the DRG solos also using Apradar? Or is DRG able to clear the boss and some/all of the pets?

Most aren't I don't think, as they mention not beng able to find it.

[Atolm]

Aggroing a pet is pretty much a failure on DRG, you have to kill them and they take a while (around 5 min). Some weeks ago I aggroed one and timed out with Tuchulcha at 35%, and my gear is not bad (Vfork, Ares, Homam). Aggro and bound times after Sandspit is the only thing you have to worry about, mob is cake.

[Nameless]

Soloed yesterday in 12 mins using Carbonara. HB trig was about 900 HP. Pretty easy with the help of dat swap and apradar. Tho I think dat swap itself is enough to find the NM. In regard to bind, I avoided one with super jump, and ate the other two. Didn't last too long and I just rest a bit before it wears.

Overall no danger at all except when it does the sneak attack you have to target it fast for HB. You could very well lose around 600 HP right off the bat. But with 900 HP HB trigger, it isn't a problem at all.

No drop btw.

Edit: I was playing as my HB trig is 800 HP. Not used to carbonara's extra HP. So it could have been even easier. Also, if you want you can bring eye drop. The blind move is about the only thing that can make the fight linger a bit longer than it should.

[fantasticdan]

It's not very complicated. Anyone who has basic common sense and has taken any entry level programming course could figure it out(or even has the slightest idea about how computers work).. good to see Yugl is still riding my cock though. Some things never change <3

Claiming the server reloads your position every time you blink to move while bound in a way that would be detectable as pos hacking would imply that the server is losing track of characters every single time they gearswap, or that bind is programmed in a way that allows the server to lose the position of characters specifically while being bound, and only updates position from the client when the character blinks back in (otherwise it would just appear as normal movement, not warping around like pos hacking). It's a baseless assumption either way.

[rog]

Claiming the server reloads your position every time you blink to move while bound in a way that would be detectable as pos hacking would imply that the server is losing track of characters every single time they gearswap, or that bind is programmed in a way that allows the server to lose the position of characters specifically while being bound, and only updates position from the client when the character blinks back in (otherwise it would just appear as normal movement, not warping around like pos hacking). It's a baseless assumption either way.

It reloads your position every time you move. The server doesn't prevent you from moving; the client does. Moving while bound is an incredibly simple matter of changing a single value in memory. What blinking changes is that you can still move while you're blinking. Detecting it would be a simple matter logging any time someone's position changes while bound.

[Yugl]

I think that sorta came without saying. Holding hate off the wyvern hasn't really been the issue so it doesn't bother me to switch to my DMG-% set then back to my normal DD/solo set. The idea of the set is to completely offset any extra damage you will take from the pop. Also, not to mention that just because you only take 440 dmg from the initial pop he also has double attack and will get his first round of attacks before you will engage. When you add to that you could be taking somewhere about 600-700 dmg total. Make a full set and make your macros to make it work, should not be any reason you can not do that.

I mentioned the wyvern hate issue because of the posts that came before. Changing gears to Earth Staff would remove your TP and essentially reduce your damage. If you're worried about Sneak Attack + DA, use a Carbonara for extra HP. I'm not sure about HP values for all races, but I find ~1.45k HP to be safe. Again, DMG% gear is nice, but unnecessary for some races. If it's unnecessary, it becomes a burden since it reduces kill speed.

[Kurai]

Would someone be so kind as to PM me a link to the map pack required to get APRadar working for this? Thanks.

[rog]

Would someone be so kind as to PM me a link to the map pack required to get APRadar working for this? Thanks.

Just change the zoom.

[Nameless]

If you are able to use Apradar, why not just .dat swap?

[Pendulum]

People are mentioning coming close/winning as drg/blu. My duo partner quit recently and I can't find anyone I like to replace him with ;\, would drg/rdm|whm be able to solo reliably? (assuming you don't find any babies)

[Yugl]

People are mentioning coming close/winning as drg/blu. My duo partner quit recently and I can't find anyone I like to replace him with ;\, would drg/rdm|whm be able to solo reliably? (assuming you don't find any babies)

He hits my Elvaan for ~170DMG/Hit without Cocoon, so with AP Radar or Dat Changes, I would imagine it doable. However, you might want the following precautions:

1. PDT Gear (For the initial Sneak Attack and if you can hold hate, for the duration of battle)

2. High HP Melee gear (If PDT doesn't work out, Homam might be needed for Haste/ACC/HP)

3. Carbonara or Tacos (I'll explain on this a bit later)

4. Ethereal Earring

5. Angon (Duh)

6. Cure yourself between battles after triggering HB if possible

The two main concerns I see with sub RDM are kill speed and DMG taken. Without access to Cocoon, you will *need* a PDT set for the Sneak Attack. As mentioned earlier, melee hit tend to do ~170DMG.

Having said that, if you're constantly hit for ~170DMG, you'll probably end up curing yourself a lot (HB cures for ~320HP without XP Bonus?), which reduces the amount of hits you make. It also stalls the wyvern due to HB animation.

Now that I've mentioned the concern, I would actually prefer to use Tacos if you have decent HP (~1.25k+ maybe).

Edit: An SS build for SS between runs might help. Barspells for RDM and Poisona for WHM. WHM might be better since you have access to Erase.

[Epysian]

So I did a dat swap and changed Tiamat and the Black Antlion model around, but Tulchacha still is an Antlion when I enter the ENM. In Atlana Viewer they are switched, but not in game. Does anyone know what the problem could be?

[rog]

So I did a dat swap and changed Tiamat and the Black Antlion model around, but Tulchacha still is an Antlion when I enter the ENM. In Atlana Viewer they are switched, but not in game. Does anyone know what the problem could be?

It's a different dat (sorry i don't know which one, but i believe there's only one other antlion, which should be the right one).

[Lenus]

Just soloed it on drg/whm. Always duoed it but partner ran past taru forgetting to get miasma filter. Used Apradar.

Very close at the end 8mp left less then 80hp at the end due to poison. Cleared it at 13mins 30sec. Epic fucking fight for not coming /blu and not having def food lol used coeurl sub. Basically put up stoneskin and cured to 90%ish health between each one. Had to rest at 9mins in for mp and recalled wyvern once due to bad positioning and he got poison.

SS and erase in between each NM, heal up as needed, dia and bar spells for trigger. Tacos would have been preferred but wasn't planning on soloing it and defiantly a yag drink since no ares's body yet. Though I believe I got lucky since it didn't Man Bite me ^^; . If I ever do this again I would defiantly use homam body over Askar in macro. Kuppopowers where skill up, swift shoes and crafting one -.- refresh would have helped.

Only got harmonia's torque and satin though =/.

shitty DB return due to being blind >< One of the HB relic head didn't get recognized but usually 450+ HB each time

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[stewie]

Are the last 2 pics the same pic twice?

[Lenus]

yeah sorry posted my ws gear 2x fixed it. Still debating on earring triumphs minuet fowling delta or assault. Thinking on going minuet earring but thats for a different thread.

[montgomery]

Just solo'd in a little bit ago DRG/BLU, second time winning my loss was from /WHM and time expired, spent too much time resting and dodging around adds. Cut it close this time around, about 30 seconds left and it was at 5% so I popped my 2hr (which i probably didnt need to do but meh.) and unloaded on it.

Gear is:
Thal / Pole / --- / Tiphia
Walahra / Love Torque / Ethereal / Brutal
Ares's Cuirass / Homam Mano / Jelly Ring / Blitz Ring
Boxer's Mantle / Swift Belt / Homam Cosc / Homam Gambi

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[tribute041]

has anyone else had a problem with the helper antlions switching positions after tuchulcha buries for the first time? i thought i had a solution to the above by making sure i was @ the spawn in the kite path, but i just got rocked by a helper antlion when i had tuchulcha bury when i was at said location....?