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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgaer View Post
    So does anyone else at all think that it's strange that, knowing about this for so long, SE has just sat by monitoring logs this whole time, waiting for players to fall into this trap, instead of fixing it right away?

    SE has obviously known about this for at least long enough to do this 'monitoring'. So why not fix the problem, then go back and do the punishing, instead of leaving it out there as bait?
    They did; the exploit was fixed two months ago.

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    They've had to have known about it longer than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belgaer View Post
    They've had to have known about it longer than that.
    Perhaps they did. Either way, this can easily be summed up with two words: sting operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melios View Post
    Perhaps they did. Either way, this can easily be summed up with two words: sting operation.

    Then I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. lol

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    I think the key thing that irks me about this whole mess, bringing up Blizzard, is how both companies get around to hotfixes.

    AFAIK, when a rather large bug comes around in WoW, you've got tons of people harping about it to Blizzard, regardless if it's good or bad. There's been some pretty noticeable things Bliz doesn't ever want to bother hotfixing, too (case in point: Toughness Tier 3).

    In this case, nobody really wanted to fucking own up to it; yet at the same time, people wanna whine about only the bad issues (and just whine about things, in general).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    People still see G4?
    You only hate g4 because they show 10 hours of cops everyday. minorities can't appreciate the finer aspects of the law.

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    The Man is now black; i can't complain anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fusionx View Post
    Players Banned From 'Final Fantasy XI' - G4tv.com
    Wonder if we'll get this stuff on TV again
    I like this, from that page:

    Quote Originally Posted by shawnrussow
    - Friday, January 23, 2009 3:11 PM
    I was always a big fan of the FF franchise, but couldn't stand FFXI. I have played more MMO's than I can count, and have also been banned more times than I can count =p, though not all were from MMO's, just most.

    Banned from:
    Maple Story
    Runescape
    Gunz
    World of Kung Fu
    EQ
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    CS 1.6
    Albatross 18
    All Aeria Games
    And many more... lol.
    Getting banned from chintzy MMOs is srs bizness.

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    G4 article linked to an FFXI blog and I found this hilariously inaccurate nugget:

    The monster Absolute Virtue comes to mind, a monster who’s ‘weakness’ has yet to be discovered even after several attempts by Square Enix to give its players clues. In fact, after enough attention was brought to Square Enix they changed said 18 hour monster to be able to be defeated in two hours. Then, after that NM was defeated Square Enix changed it again to make it unbeatable.
    Players Question Square Enix’s Investigation Methods Against Non-RMT Accounts

    edit: Maybe they meant people could kill it in 18 hours and aren't drawing parallels to PW but that'd be an odd coincidence.

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    As a person who hasn't picked up the game in a year and some change, I agree that the punishment was way too severe, considering how long that exploit was in the game not fixed. A punishment is deserved, yes, but a permaban? Too much. 72+ hour suspension and taking away items should have been sufficient enough. SE's policies have been wishy washy and inconsistent since the dawn of FFXI.

    I also learned that there are some massive fucking tools in this and the other HUEG thread. No one shot your puppy. Quit acting like all of end-game players did.

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    Wow, just read the G4TV article. All I can say is lol.

    Plus, it's incredibly hypocritical to suggest they go ride their bikes and stop staring at a computer (as if FFXI players all have no lives), and then immediately suggest they go play WoW.

    Most biased article evar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infini View Post
    Tbh i hope it showballs into another shitstorm like the Pandemonium Warden endless fight as while i agree the ppl who cheated needed to be punished and mebbe temp banned for a few days the Permabans afink arent fair when it takes down ppl who are long time players and generally good ppl. Also has to be said that this was a fuck up on SE's Side that didnt involve 3rd pt software and to me it looks theyre just banning ppl because they got caught with their pants down on this issue for being too slow/lazy to fix this sooner.
    *bow, and clap* i 2nd that entirely, and without a reasonable doubt!

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    Compare that with the coverage on some of the JP websites (translated via jpbutton.com). Frankly, it's why I don't read the filth that comes from Kotaku & G4.

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    It's really common for people who feel they're uncool to make jokes about it at other people's expense. Because they work around video games, there is a stigma about video games that makes some people instantly think of nerds who live in their basements, so in order to compensate for this image, people like the sort you see in G4 will put down that kind of image, it also helps reassure others that video games aren't just for nerds.

    It's also kind of like how lots of guys constantly make gay jokes, especially when they're in situations that may be homoerotic. I think they call these yellow jokes.

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    Don't forget the mentality that the MMO you play is akin to your gang affiliation. No alliances. Everyone is set trippin.

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    nigga please

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    Hay guys I heard it's trendy to hate Kotaku now! Me too! I hate that site! It's totally...uh...filth!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    Hay guys I heard it's trendy to hate Kotaku now! Me too! I hate that site! It's totally...uh...filth!
    That's not fair. Kotaku does suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fusionx View Post
    Players Banned From 'Final Fantasy XI' - G4tv.com
    Wonder if we'll get this stuff on TV again

    G4 isnt real TV. its a constant trampling on TechTV's grave.

    heh, remember when we didnt air back to back to back episodes of Extended Play?

    cmon, Leo Laporte, as nerdly as he was, had a great show

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    I love how ignorant everyone in gaming is to FFXI when they dont play it. I would love for anyother MMO try and say "Oh yeah, the abused the fuck out of this, however we will just let them go".

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