Gulool Ja Ja

[Sai]

I'm ready for these titles next. One thing I'm a little mixed up on...

Under what conditions do each of the kings spawn? I've been scanning for Gurfurlur a few times but he's not usually present.

Are they only popped when the beastmen are level 5+ and preparing? That doesn't make for a very long window to gather an alliance an trek out there.

are you making sure you're close enough to scan? The wiki map shows where he spawns, but it's actually further south. We sent a group past the 6-man lever to widescan, just to make sure we were scanning correctly. I'm quite positive you don't need besieged to be preparing for any of the 3 kings to be up, don't know about the level 5 though. And in case you're worried, we found out the kings do in fact repop pretty quickly after maintenance.

[Petitssk]

Don't count on them being up ~24 hours after the maintenance though, Gurfurlur wasn't up when we went to kill him, don't know the exact hours anymore since it's been a while, could have been a bit less than 24 hours.
Could also be that he was killed by another group, no idea.
Speaking of drops, our Medua's armlet desynthed into a few platinum nuggets.

[Streak]

are you making sure you're close enough to scan? The wiki map shows where he spawns, but it's actually further south. We sent a group past the 6-man lever to widescan, just to make sure we were scanning correctly. I'm quite positive you don't need besieged to be preparing for any of the 3 kings to be up, don't know about the level 5 though. And in case you're worried, we found out the kings do in fact repop pretty quickly after maintenance.

Well, I was alone so I was not able to get passed the 6 person pressure door. What I did was take the north branch all the around. Eventually you end up in a small room with 4 bronze pot hatches and 1 true sight troll. This is not shown on the map, but it's at K-8 on Map 2. I stood hidden behind the pot and was able to scan all the way down into K-11.

Wiki says he spawns around K-10 which doesn't seem to be accurate. I was able to scan 6 trolls around the south part of K-11 but no Gurfurlur.

If he's farther south than K-11 I'll need some assistance to get into the pressure doors I guess lol.

[Indalecia]

He is, there's about 10 trolls just walking around below his "throne".

[Rakshaka]

Does elegy make him retaliate with vorpal wheel?

Also, does flash make him use vorpal wheel? I'm guessing it doesn't, as the setups so far suggested using pld/nin.

[savagebst]

We are planning this one soon too so I was just wondering about so details about this NM, since no one really confirmed or answered some of the questions above. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1. Will nin debuffs or brd elegy also trigger the vorpal wheel?

2. Has anyone tried blu dmg spells that have added defuff? if so will jaja counter with vorpal wheel?

3. Can the 4 adds be super tanked? or was there 4 rdm/nin ect.

4. I have been reading mixed experiences on the adds, just how much support is needed for the adds? I have been reading 15man jajas (gonna assume no add ally?) and then there are 1 party adds that get overwhelmed.

Sorry for the bombard of questions just want to get everything stright for a smooth fight.

[Nameless]

Did this two nights ago and I was the super tank so I did not see Gulool Ja Ja the whole fight. For those who mentioned that it can be supertanked with one rdm as support, you might need some pretty good gears for that.

I have decent stuff as pld/blu (went /blu for cocoon) with pretty standard gears, Ares, homam etc. I have 0 merit in shield skill due to having drg and drk lvled, and am missing koenig helm, so my shield skill is about 13-15 level lower than the max possible if you include af+1 feet which I don't have. And I was getting torned apart pretty badly and needed a rdm + a whm for cure and occasionally another rdm when both are out of MP. The rdm only had lvl 1 phalanx 2 and that probably had some thing to do with it. But keep in mind that the adds are thf x 2 and whm x 2, so they hit pretty fast, which pretty much prevented me from healing myself most of the time. The whm adds constantly cast dia so your defense will be lowered due to that.

In addition to that, make sure you line them all up. For some reason it is hard to keep them all lined up for shield block, 1 will always want to stay on your side, and the knockback kick WS doesn't help the matter as they will be moving around as you get pushed back and have to line them up again. Firespit is also a pain as you will be idling in shield block gears instead of MDT.

Not the easiest thing to supertank. Perhaps it is the shield skill but the thfs hit so fast and frequent that by the time Gulool Ja Ja died, which is about 40 mins, the thfs were at 45% HP, taking damage only from repraisal. Would be funny if they died on their own and respawn and kill the tank party. Good luck.

[savagebst]

Ah thank you for your insights. So repraisal doesnt count as hate? I always avoided using reprasial supertanking because I thought it would cause hate and would transfer to mages curing me. Guess I can put that marco back in now if it dosen't generate hate. thanks

[Tarmo]

I supertanked the adds for my LS as RDM/WAR(I'm gimp and /blu is only 8 ) with -44%(-50% @ night) phys dmg. Defender, taco, and Phal, and the brd would come over and give Minne @ times too. At night with Minne, I was seeing all hits under 30, most under 10, except for TP moves.

[Rakshaka]

Can Gulool Ja be widescanned from map 1 or map3? Currently it's right after a lvl 8 beseiged (which he wasnt killed in), and i cant find him on widescan from either map
Edit: nvm found him

Gulool Ja Ja Win! I'm sure Indalecia can appreciate this. Had an add alliance for adds. The main alliance consisted of a tank party and 2 smn parties filled with 10 smn. Took him down in around 30 mins. Lvl 5 heavenly strike was doing great @ ~550 dmg. Thanks to everyone that helped with the win!

Note: Elegy did trigger vorpal. As far as other debuffs, our rdm was getting resisted. I think flash also triggers vorpal. I think I saw a couple wheels go off on the PLDs.