currency cost speculation.

[Kyarutaru]

Yeah, I know you've spoken with Xorn. It doesn't really sit well with anybody in the shell, but at least there are several people in line ahead of ya.

[Cream Soda]

What's that based on? Last I heard, it was based on length of time in the shell and current progress on the relic. Looking at the list of those interested, only would one ahead of me definitely and one more that would be debatable. Not sure where you're getting several from.

[azagarth]

meh if i had the gil like veg does id buy a resell for profit too on dyna currency. Really who cares? It only affect the 1% of people who actually go after a relic, and benefits the 20%+ that do dyna and sell the currency win-win imo since most relic upgraders have enough to fully fund 2 usually lol.

It is a free market, any1 who is rich has abused some tactic in this game whether it be a bot, selling r/e or buying large mass of dyna currency and rolanmarting it.

if a shell didnt want to let me sponsor because im selling currency i pay out of my pocket for then f them lol.... Now if veg goes and sell is currency from sponsor then that be kinda underhanded, but from what i gather he is doing this to make the 50m needed to sponsor a relic to full ya?

[Cream Soda]

Now if veg goes and sell is currency from sponsor then that be kinda underhanded, but from what i gather he is doing this to make the 50m needed to sponsor a relic to full ya?

Wouldn't do that, its strictly against ls rules and as for the gil, it is mainly towards relic, but also polishing off the last of buyables I can use to improve mnk.

[Hwang]

So you're going to fund your relic by making the coins more expensive in the first place? that doesn't sound like very good logic. As I said before.

And the only reason people are complaning about it is because he is actively shouting to buy the pieces for a lower price, to then go and sell them for an upper price, I honestly have never seen anyone on fairy doing this with any other item, if they do it through the AH they don't stand much of a chance, where as Dyna coins are always wanted.

[Cream Soda]

So you're going to fund your relic by making the coins more expensive in the first place? that doesn't sound like very good logic.

I know I'm playing a chance game here, but coins are kinda high atm. Once I get a good enough amount of gil stockpiled I plan to step back and let the coins do what they do. If the price doesn't go down, then I'll at least have a good enough amount stockpiled to fund via sponsor, when a space opens up for sponsoring that is.

[Hwang]

I am upgrading Bravura atm, and before you even touched the market the coin prices were going up, so my relic is going to be funded by me buying coins from my shell and sponsoring when I can, I don't see them falling soon, espically with you helping them rise up.

[Yugl]

It would probably turn out to be the same as Shihei and other 99 stack items. Mass purchasing of 99 set/100 coins, but little regard for the singles. I can't imagine someone sitting there bidding on 60 single coins one by one. On the other hand, since coins are more accessible, LSs would bot the AH.

[Cream Soda]

I am upgrading Bravura atm, and before you even touched the market the coin prices were going up, so my relic is going to be funded by me buying coins from my shell and sponsoring when I can, I don't see them falling soon, espically with you helping them rise up.

Well if you ever decide to purchase rolanmart, I'll be the cheapest one out there.

[Hwang]

Well if you ever decide to purchase rolanmart, I'll be the cheapest one out there.

I won't, I buy all my coins for 5k/500k for singles and 100's, I will never buy with the prices in rolanmart

[Kyarutaru]

What's that based on? Last I heard, it was based on length of time in the shell and current progress on the relic. Looking at the list of those interested, only would one ahead of me definitely and one more that would be debatable. Not sure where you're getting several from.

Rewt was a sponsor then chose to step back for awhile. He's next up. Rafa has THE highest attendance in the shell, regardless of his current null progress. Gipi posted before you and has good progress.

So you're looking at quite a long wait to sit on all that money.

[Cream Soda]

Oh well, all the more reason for me to make my gil then, huh?

[Kyarutaru]

Yeah I suppose. Glad I have the benefit of sponsoring to not have to pay your high prices.

[frodnonnag]

Yeah I suppose. Glad I have the benefit of sponsoring to not have to pay your high prices.

unlike dynamis, i can't sponsor a "free" event like salvage...

[Cream Soda]

You can find people who wants gear and do farming runs for their gear and make it clear that you want the alex and no gear.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Has the past two pages of this thread really been bitching about someone selling things at a higher price than they bought them for?

Really?

[Silenka]

Has the past two pages of this thread really been bitching about someone selling things at a higher price than they bought them for?

Really?

1. Go to BG forums
2. Post bitching and QQing
3. ???
4. Profit?

[Max™]

Mythics announced: Coins drop.
Mythic 30k requirement solidified: Coins rise.
Mythics completed and found disappointing to many: Coins rise.

Why is this shocking to anyone?

[frodnonnag]

Has the past two pages of this thread really been bitching about someone selling things at a higher price than they bought them for?

Really?

it was originally intended to be about non centralized versus centralized selling of currency, but was derailed by the first reply.

[Fiye]

To be honest, I don't know what references to bring on for a free market, as far as a MMO goes. At least, in relation to FFXI.

I remember SWG had both Player Controlled Merchants and an Auction (Can't remember if it was universal, or only worked on the planet/city it was placed in). In any case, sometimes for the best item at the best price, you had to do a lot of hunting/searching around. Which is what the Rolanmart is similar to. Though, with less running around.

What Cream is doing is a slight abuse of the Free Market. Though, I'd prefer not to use that term. Rather negitive in my opinion, but for now I can't describe it another way. He's basically buying the product, and reselling at a profit, which people are willing to pay for.

Supply/Demand. Apparently the demand is there to buy Cream's overpriced currency.

At the moment, we have 5 non-gil currencies. [S]Sandy, [S]Windy, [S]Bastok, Ancient Beastman, and Alexandrite.

Right now, I can see Dynamis coins being AH able. As there's a good market for them, and you have various denominations. And there's enough collect singles into 100's, and sell 100's right off the bat.

Though, I couldn't see many people selling singles.

Ancient Beastcoins can be stacked into groups of 99, or single. While selling them single. The one slot-item can be rather harsh. I do believe shouts on these would continue.

And then you have Alexandrite's, which current can only be made into 2 groups. Single and 99. Though, with the rarity found in salvage, versus the 30k requirement, (Barely any -> Up to around 400 [From what I've heard. Nothing to be had verified]) I think these would make a good sell in denominations of 99.

However, to the OP. I don't know if your goal is to have the currency drop down in price (Which a lot of dynamis people would welcome with open, failing, arms), I think you'd be playing with fire. A centralized system would establish a set price for the server, but that set price could be higher than what you might have been able to get. And not very many people would be willing to rolanmart then, unless they were anal about the AH fees.

But, in all honestly, Dynamis currency will never drop down. Relics are the end all be all weapon, and have been for the last 4 years. They're a worthwhile investment that has been proven, and stated by the devs, that you will never regret.

So, I really doubt undercutting would happen often. Or else you'll have people buying the holy shit out of them.

In the end, I'd say bring on the centralization!

Edit: When I say the relic-currency may drop down in price, I mean in relation to the current buying power of the FF Community on the server (Think back to 2006 Inflation versus now.) Not in how the prices of a Scorpion Harness or a Haubergeon have dropped.