BLU Gear questions

[Ultimagi]

But taking -3 Enmity and 30 MP over Rajas? That doesn't compute with me.

[WraithLakshmi]

if you have 8/8 sword merits and physical potency, you don't need much extra accuracy, you can stack on str/dex

[astura]

The reason for optical hat is yes 2 base dmg is nice but not at the cost of 5% more acc. The only time i would reliably want to used the relic hat or a str head piece as i indicated would be when your /thf with single hits where base dmg and str get the most returns. As for tp id say the relic body would pull out ahead slightly but both will still work fine for tping (allows a head slot and both have acc and auto refesh). Conisder looking at your total acc and the mobs acc levels before you judge wether you have enough acc or not. Mobs like Greater birds have a total evasion of 420 which you need to hit to cap out acc (maximizing your returns on dmg/mp because you maximized the chance to hit 4 and 5 hits) other mobs like mammols range from 430 (mages) to 490/500 (thf and ninja).

easy way to figure this out:
[(sword skill-200)*.9]+200+30(spell acc boos)+10(trait set)+(dex/2)+acc gear= X
if your using sushi take X*1.15= total acc

(example just droping to 92% acc makes you hit 4/5 hits 71% the time vrs 82% with 95% acc or all 5 hits 77% the time)

For non raja's users what i would recomend is acc+7>acc+5>thunder>flame rings the reason being that if you gained acc in the ring slot you could more easily swap another piece that was acc to a str/dex slot and get the same acc returns while minimizing your str/dex loss.

(As for your question I would suggest iota but only if you get more use then blu for it 3 acc+3 dex is probly the best you can get as you gained 2 acc over raja's at a cost of 2 dex and 5 str minimizing the lack of raja's ring stats)

[Dammerung]

If you really want acc on your head that bad use morrigan's coronal. Ohat is only if you don't have merits or better alternatives.

[astura]

I have both but on 5 hitters (disservement/hysteric barrage) you get better returns on optical hat then morrigan's corocal. 1 base dmg<2.5% hit rate. The accuracy you need to cap out on birds (the least evasive mob) is 420. Let us take your example assume with optical hat we have caped out acc on birds (420 with sushi so that a base of 365 pre sushi) now keeping all our gear the same we would use morrigan's coronal. we gained 4 str (1 base dmg) how ever we lost 5 acc so we now have 414 total acc. That would put us at a 92% hit rate. this would have us hit 4/5 hits 71% the time and 3/5 hits 77% the time. SO you want to say that droping from 77% on 5 hits to the same % on 3 hits with 1 more base dmg is better? Id have to say a reasonably smart person would have to say 5 is great then 3. Except in cases where you would have already been over the acc cap optical is better as it allows the most acc gain for minimal str/dex trade offs. Thus the only time alternative head pieces would be better would in situations you had a additional acc buff from another job would using a alternative head be better (or you would have had to been caped acc prior head alone with the rest of your gear)

[Karshe]

I thought it was found that using Mirage Keffiyah on multi-hit spells wasn't worth it unless it broke you into a higher tier (which it doesn't...). I've been using Voyager Sallet for multi-hits for quite a while now... do I remember wrong and Mirage Keffiyah > Voyager Sallet? Obviously Optical Hat is a good alternative, but with full merits and sushi I don't feel as though my accuracy is lacking.

[Suiram]

Unless I missed something about an error in the accepted calculation for base damage, 75BLU + 8/8 merits + AF body should be D69, and + AF2 hat should be D71.

Edit: This reminds me of another thing in the AF2 vs. Gnad question. Any base damage from D or fSTR increase should I think be on all hits of multihit, while WSC would only be on the first hit. So maybe that does make AF2 the winner, since you have (2 increase on all hits plus "attack" increase on all hits) vs. (1~3 increase on all first hit (1~5 with CA) and 1~2 increase on subsequent hits). Again, assuming I didn't miss a mistake in the base damage calculation.

[astura]

considering the highest evasion mob for merits is thf mammol ja at 490ish you wouldnt relly notice it a lot but if i were to change that set up around i would go optical>Gnadbhod's Helm, PCC>ancient torque, flame>sipers+1/toragers so id have a 0 net acc change and gained 8 dex 1 str over the previous set up. if you considered that 450 acc is you average merit mob (melee mammol ja less for birds) then you wouldnt need as much acc to see yourself caped out (450/1.15=391 base before sushi applied) SO yes it's not the best that i posted earlier but it's the most reasonably best one could get. If you noticed though almost every piece upped dmg with both stats and acc except for the head/neck/perdu. I'd probably want to use the ideal set up (with those 3 changes) for vorpal blade as it has high dex amounts and str with enough acc to back it up.

[el_tio]

Unless I missed something about an error in the accepted calculation for base damage, 75BLU + 8/8 merits + AF body should be D69, and + AF2 hat should be D71.

Edit: This reminds me of another thing in the AF2 vs. Gnad question. Any base damage from D or fSTR increase should I think be on all hits of multihit, while WSC would only be on the first hit. So maybe that does make AF2 the winner, since you have (2 increase on all hits plus "attack" increase on all hits) vs. (1~3 increase on all first hit (1~5 with CA) and 1~2 increase on subsequent hits). Again, assuming I didn't miss a mistake in the base damage calculation.

This has been bugging me for a while, cuz I hear different reports, but isn't WSC on all hits? I know FTP is first hit only.

At least in my experience with raging rush I don't think my max raging rush could be accounted for without WSC on all hits.

Also, wouldn't morrigan's head be 2 base damage, 1 from fstr 1 from wsc?

[VZX]

WSC applies for all hits. only fTP applies on the first hit.

Speaking of multi-hit spell gear, this is my current set, minus Cuchulain's Mantle and Denali Gamashes.
My certain amount of STR and DEX used in merit PT makes Enkidu's Cap and Kubira Bead Necklace STR and DEX bonus raise 2 points WSC, so that's the same having the base damage raised by Mirage Keffiyeh.

[Suiram]

I'm not sure why I thought it was only on the first hit, but if VZX says it's on all hits then I would go with that. Sorry.

[Yugl]

WSC applies for all hits. only fTP applies on the first hit.

Speaking of multi-hit spell gear, this is my current set, minus Cuchulain's Mantle and Denali Gamashes.
My certain amount of STR and DEX used in merit PT makes Enkidu's Cap and Kubira Bead Necklace STR and DEX bonus raise 2 points WSC, so that's the same having the base damage raised by Mirage Keffiyeh.

This is pretty much what I have aside from the Enkidu Cap and Koggelmander.

[Belgaer]

Head: Mirage Keffiyeh
Neck: Kubira Bead Necklace/Chivalrous Chain/Peacock Charm
Ear1: STR+2 Earring/Hollow Earring
Ear2: STR+2 Earring/Suppanomimi
Body: Magus Jubbah+1
Hands: Alkyeonus's Bracelets/Enkidu's Mittens
Ring1: Rajas Ring
Ring2: Flame Ring/Blood Ring
Back: Cuchman's Mantle
Waist: Warwolf Belt/Potent Belt
Legs: Enkidu's Subligar/Mirage Shalwar
Feet: Denali Gamashes


The items are on a scale going left to right. Left is maximum potency, right is a good accuracy build. Keep in mind that Frenetic Rip needs a bit less accuracy than Hysteric or Disseverment. Also, if you have 8/8 sword and Physical Potency (SE has said Physical Potency is actually Physical spell accuracy.), then you'll benefit from maxing out your STR than increasing your accuracy, even if you are missing a hit often (you need accuracy bonus as well).

Of course, hysteric barrage has a DEX build so just focus on blue magic skill, DEX, and accuracy (in that order) and you're set. But you won't use hysteric much. Maybe on mobs that are weak to blunt DMG.