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    To add to what BlacLanner said, -dmg% gear helps with Asuran, a lot, as I took two Asurans back to back in -physical dmg% gear and only took 200 damage total - I can't remember if I had phalanx up though, Stoneskin completely ate the first Asuran though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Demon Taoist View Post
    Personally, I'm tired of people having the, "I did it on the first try, therefore anyone who doesn't, sucks" attitude of the typical forum jackasses.

    Shit happens. Luck is an enormous factor in all Maat fights. You can have a Plutos, capped Enfeebling, Enfeebling torque and sleep can still get resisted. Your nukes can get resisted. He can decide to use Asuran Fists or Shoulder Tackle, etc, etc...

    None of this is controllable by the player, no matter how skilled they are.

    Thank god I fought him as bst. Now that's actually some easy shit.. . lol
    You can take him down in a single chainspell, bring the meds and luck will be less of a factor than you seem to think.

    Sure, he can fuck you over and resist everything, but so can any other mob in the goddamn game, that doesn't mean you should do it in another way next time.
    Spells land decently if your gear is up-to-date.

    If you know what you're doing, a few resists on Sleep won't kill you anyway. Have a Physical damage down set ready when you're about to get hit and don't panic when shit hits the fan. He really isn't as hard as people try to make him out to be, there's is a LOT of horrible RDMs out there.

    Rush it for the easiest/fastest kill, less chance of resists fucking you over that way, too.

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    Hmmm, well to be honest, I think you're better off with your gear than most who beat Maat on RDM, so I don't think that's what you should worry about. You should worry about strategy, not your gear.

    And yeah... Don't chainspell nuke spam. You can win that way, sure, but it's a pointless, as it's easier to just be quick with your fingers and nuke twice, sleep, rebuff, run out of range, and repeat. I say run out of range because he's likely to chainspell himself in the process, so you don't really want to bind him. Keep in mind that Chainspell lasts a full 60 seconds. There's a lot you can do in that time, and I know for a fact that you can actually take out all of his HP in the 60 seconds if you sleep and rebuff after every other nuke. Just keep Paralyze, Blind, and Gravity on him. Don't silence or he'll be far more prone to asuran firsts spamming (back-to-back). Don't bother with Slow, as it doesn't do jack for him. Blind will help cut down DMG on asuran fists (especially since you're mithra). Also, spam Blind and Stone at the start of the fight in quick succession to strip Blink.

    If you do that stuff, as long as you play with some sense (and skill, I guess), you shouldn't have much trouble. The biggest mistake most people make is that they just go in and chainspell nuke spam after a few minutes, which leaves you vulnerable. No matter how much HP you and Maat have, he can finish it at any time if you let him. That's the trick. lol

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    highest defense gear you can get. i went with behemoth's mantle +1, SH+1, those Defense Bangles from that Beetle etc. Eat a taco and be sure to protect 4. Maat should have difficulty hitting you for more than 10-15 with phalanx on.

    This was as a Level 66 Tarutaru.

    If you are level 70 more gear will open up to you and you could actually just do a full RDM melee.

    Sleep him when he chainspells.

    It's one of the easiest Maat fights if you don't try to be lolBLM and remember that you are a RDM.

    LV70 (or 70+ for Beyond the Sun) can also sleep TP and icarus wing for double weapnskills to beat him time. Not really worth it if you don't have Savage Blade.

    Otherwise just melee him and drink potions for HP til he 2hrs

    Sleep him when he 2hrs (macro in gear for this). Try sleep 1 and then put sleep 2 on it about 15 seconds later. Run away.

    Use any meds you wanna use and wait for him to come in range (he'll start casting a random spell so make sure you rebuffed and put blink up to). open up chainspell and spam stone3.

    When your MP is about to be around 125, start spamming sleep2 til it sticks.

    Cure, convert cure. and start casting more stone3s. should be able to do this before chainspell wears.

    meleeing him til he does his 2hr makes him significantly easier and his asuran fists shouldnt break double digits if he uses it (if not then you are doing something wrong your defense should be like 450+ and you have phalanx on)

    Damage Reduction Gear is also pretty decent.

    If you don't have sword skilled you have to do it the gimp way that many people die on even at 75 which is trying to fight him as a gimp black mage. I beat him on RDM66 Tarutaru, with absolutely no problems using this method. The fight wasn't even close. His best Asuran Fists (he did it twice) was something in the 70s. He would have to hit me for a minute or weaponskill just to break stoneskin because he'd normally hit me for only around 10ish. A good stoneskin will last a while.

    Running up and sleeping Maat before you buff can prevent him from buffing. I did this and it worked great. Was able to buff and I started casting enfeebles til he woke up.

    The people here who say Asuran Fists do 200-300 damage were most likely tryign to beat Maat in mage gear. Some people report damage up to 400+. Some people take as much as 100 damage for a regular hit. This kind of thing is fine for a black mage. but if you want to be a red mage, start acting like one and and buff yourself up.

    Also, enspell on Maat. I went with day of the week enspell which I think was earth's day so it was enstone

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    After looking at your gearsets I would advise you to use a staff while casting/nuking.

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    Red Mage gear for Maat fight? A gkt for when you fight him as Samurai instead. You're welcome ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaea View Post
    highest defense gear you can get. i went with behemoth's mantle +1, SH+1, those Defense Bangles from that Beetle etc. Eat a taco and be sure to protect 4. Maat should have difficulty hitting you for more than 10-15 with phalanx on.

    This was as a Level 66 Tarutaru.

    If you are level 70 more gear will open up to you and you could actually just do a full RDM melee.

    Sleep him when he chainspells.

    It's one of the easiest Maat fights if you don't try to be lolBLM and remember that you are a RDM.

    LV70 (or 70+ for Beyond the Sun) can also sleep TP and icarus wing for double weapnskills to beat him time. Not really worth it if you don't have Savage Blade.

    Otherwise just melee him and drink potions for HP til he 2hrs

    Sleep him when he 2hrs (macro in gear for this). Try sleep 1 and then put sleep 2 on it about 15 seconds later. Run away.

    Use any meds you wanna use and wait for him to come in range (he'll start casting a random spell so make sure you rebuffed and put blink up to). open up chainspell and spam stone3.

    When your MP is about to be around 125, start spamming sleep2 til it sticks.

    Cure, convert cure. and start casting more stone3s. should be able to do this before chainspell wears.

    meleeing him til he does his 2hr makes him significantly easier and his asuran fists shouldnt break double digits if he uses it (if not then you are doing something wrong your defense should be like 450+ and you have phalanx on)

    Damage Reduction Gear is also pretty decent.

    If you don't have sword skilled you have to do it the gimp way that many people die on even at 75 which is trying to fight him as a gimp black mage. I beat him on RDM66 Tarutaru, with absolutely no problems using this method. The fight wasn't even close. His best Asuran Fists (he did it twice) was something in the 70s. He would have to hit me for a minute or weaponskill just to break stoneskin because he'd normally hit me for only around 10ish. A good stoneskin will last a while.

    Running up and sleeping Maat before you buff can prevent him from buffing. I did this and it worked great. Was able to buff and I started casting enfeebles til he woke up.

    The people here who say Asuran Fists do 200-300 damage were most likely tryign to beat Maat in mage gear. Some people report damage up to 400+. Some people take as much as 100 damage for a regular hit. This kind of thing is fine for a black mage. but if you want to be a red mage, start acting like one and and buff yourself up.

    Also, enspell on Maat. I went with day of the week enspell which I think was earth's day so it was enstone
    Ignore everything poof says, the information in the other posts is far more useful and accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Ignore everything poof says, the information in the other posts is far more useful and accurate.
    rofl xD What he said.

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    Your gear is already great, I agree you are maybe overthinking this. It's good to be prepared but even with the best gear and strategy, it's possible to be unlucky and lose. If you do lose, don't feel bad, analyse what went wrong and keep trying, there aren't that many people who got him on the first try really.

    Still, if you wanted to perfect your gear even more, you could consider Magic Cuisses (INT+3 MND+3 and fairly cheap), Druid's slops for nukes, and an Enfeebling torque if you can get someone to lend it to you if it's too much.
    You could also bring some MP for starting the fight and converting, such as Mithra RSE legs or Ether/Electrum rings.

    Don't hesitate to rely on using items -- vile elixirs, hi-potions, ethers, Walahra waters, etc. Macro them for more efficiency, and check which will make you Medicated. For food you could try either a pie or a Cream puff. Bring a Remedy also, you never know if he may paralyze you.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Ignore everything poof says, the information in the other posts is far more useful and accurate.
    Ignore everything Thorny says, the information in my post and other posts are equally useful, depending on how you play Red Mage. He was obviously too busy parading around in his sister's panties to realize that I've long since changed my character's name to Gaea and he's trying to confuse people into thinking that Gaea and Poof are two different people.

    Why is it bad advice to fight Maat as a Red Mage than a Black Mage? This is by far one of the top three easiest fights to beat Maat with. Paladin and Bard are the other two. The problem with it is Red mages wrapped up in mage gear with 150 defense taking 600 damage from Asuran Fists. Maat shouldn't hit for more than 15 and most of the time for single digits at level 66. Asuran Fists shouldn't do more than and most of the time less than 50.

    Playing nuke/sleep lottery is just poor advice for a Red Mage who's prepared to fight Maat as a Red Mage. As I said, if your skills aren't leveled, my way wouldn't work anyways, but if you do have your skills capped (or within 5 points of cap), you can easily and safely beat Maat without relying on any form of luck. Red Mage Maat was the 15th battle I did for Beyond the Sun, and it was so easy I actually farmed another test and did it again to make sure it wasn't a fluke because all I heard was how difficult it is. I'm Tarutaru and my Red Mage is level 66.

    Equipment:
    Armais's Rapier
    Spartan Hoplon
    Scp. Harness +1
    Behemoth Mantle +1
    Steppe Belt
    Darksteel Cap +1 (I'd go with Wivre Mask now, though)
    Darksteel Subligar +1
    Protecting Bangles
    Creek F Clomps
    Cassie Earring
    Intruder Earring
    Phalanx Ring x2

    My RDM is still 66. Maybe if I have time I'll grab a test and post some screenshots. You'd be surprised how weak Maat can be. I don't have the Dark Steel stuff anymore, I'll see if I can scrounge some stuff up. The fight is ridiculously easy anyways. I'd like to FRAPS it. It baffles me how a Red Mage can lose one of the easiest battles against Maat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaea
    He was obviously too busy parading around in his sister's panties
    Your mother.

    trying to confuse people into thinking that Gaea and Poof are two different people.
    not really, just calling you poof because you have enough of a rep that your original name alone is an insult

    Paladin and Bard are the other two.
    SMN, SAM, NIN, WHM, blahblahblahblahblah

    some terrible gear setup that makes RDM maat omgeasy, asuran fists shouldn't ever break 50
    Armais's Rapier - For the parrying skill? WAT? there are a half dozen better swords for the same price or cheaper
    Spartan Hoplon - RDM's phalanx is more potent, as a plain shield it's garbage
    Scp. Harness +1 - First job RDM, clearly a good idea to drop 600k on that when they don't even have full HQ staffs
    Behemoth Mantle +1 - what the fuck is an amemet+1?
    Steppe Belt - HP? why if asuran never breaks 50?
    Darksteel Cap +1 (I'd go with Wivre Mask now, though) - cap is good for solo(not worth the gil on a first job though!), eva gear on RDM is an unholy wat
    Darksteel Subligar +1 - also good for solo but not worth it for first job
    Protecting Bangles - totally worth 4 hours camping to use for one fight, sorry i missed the memo
    Creek F Clomps - -35 more mp for some hp and str, wheeeeeeee
    Cassie Earring - -50 mp for more hp? you don't need hp, asuran is entirely harmless with your uber setup!
    Intruder Earring - same thing as cassie
    Phalanx Ring x2 - lol

    Your setup totals like 4m in gear that will have no use besides maat fight, a lot of which is hard to resell.. while I'm sure you can win like that, it's still fucking stupid advice to give to someone who doesn't even have all 4 useful HQ staves yet.. they have better things to spend gil on. The mage way is guaranteed if you're smart about it anyway, and doesn't require buying a bunch of garbage gear. Now go away poof

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaea View Post
    The problem with it is Red mages wrapped up in mage gear with 150 defense taking 600 damage from Asuran Fists. Maat shouldn't hit for more than 15 and most of the time for single digits at level 66. Asuran Fists shouldn't do more than and most of the time less than 50.

    Armais's Rapier
    Spartan Hoplon
    Scp. Harness +1
    Behemoth Mantle +1
    Steppe Belt
    Darksteel Cap +1 (I'd go with Wivre Mask now, though)
    Darksteel Subligar +1
    Protecting Bangles
    Creek F Clomps
    Cassie Earring
    Intruder Earring
    Phalanx Ring x2
    I'm not sure what you're aiming for with that kind of gear, but I have a hard time believing this could reduce Maat's damage anywhere close to the amounts you describe.

    As far as I know, melee RDM Maat is done with gear focusing on STR+ and Attack+, and heavily relyiong on food and medicines. Damage reduction may help, but trying to pile pure defense isn't going to do much of a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashreen View Post
    I'm not sure what you're aiming for with that kind of gear, but I have a hard time believing this could reduce Maat's damage anywhere close to the amounts you describe.

    As far as I know, melee RDM Maat is done with gear focusing on STR+ and Attack+, and heavily relyiong on food and medicines. Damage reduction may help, but trying to pile pure defense isn't going to do much of a difference.
    it's poof, nothing it says has any credibility, just keep at it and it'll go away hopefully

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaea View Post
    If you are level 70 more gear will open up to you and you could actually just do a full RDM melee.

    Sleep him when he chainspells.

    It's one of the easiest Maat fights if you don't try to be lolBLM and remember that you are a RDM.

    LV70 (or 70+ for Beyond the Sun) can also sleep TP and icarus wing for double weapnskills to beat him time. Not really worth it if you don't have Savage Blade.
    We're talking about a rdm trying to beat Maat here, remember? How the hell is he supposed to be 71+ to unlock Savage Blade?

    Anyway, listen to what these other people said. When I did this fight I went on darksday and borrowed hq staves (pluto's/austere's) to help with resists. Honestly I think people are lucky to win on the first try, but by losing my first attempt I learned a lot of things to do differently. Don't get discouraged or panic if something starts to go wrong and you'll be ok.

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    Newsflash poof is a retard, get int/ele gear and a vile and vile +1, ???, win.

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