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    AV video solved? - Torque Theory Only

    I hate to quote something from one of the site's staff, but how has this not been posted yet?

    Locking Absolute Virtue’s Abilities

    Elmer the Pointy

    The Relationship Between Equipment and Sealing Abilities

    Hello, I’m Suteki, a staff member at Vanatsu. This time we’re wrapped up in another mystery as I consider ways to seal those special abilities! First, it’s generally thought that when AV performs a 2-hour, you perform the 2-hour as well, and this will seal that same ability. I don’t think this assumption is wrong, but even if you execute this perfectly, there are times where the sealing is a success, and times where it fails. If there are some special circumstances involved here, I have no idea.

    I’ve fought AV dozens of times, and the only ability I’ve seen sealed with any consistency is Call Wyvern. However, there was one day where, for the first time, sealing Call Wyvern failed. At that time, we happened to be using a different Dragoon than we usually do, so thinking there was a hidden clue behind this slip-up, I compared the two and noticed a big difference.

    One had the Love Torque equipped and the other did not.

    It was the thing that had the strongest connection to AV. From this clue, I had my hypothesis: Wearing a Sea Torque would make your attempt to seal 2-hours a success!


    Now that we’ve established the theory of Sea Torques being the key to sealing AV’s abilities, we still have the issue of which jobs will equip the 7 different torques. This brings me to the connection with Jailer Weapons. Each job can only equip one of the available weapons. Furthermore, many of the combinations are not very practical and seem strange. In actuality, couldn’t this really be meant to correspond with the aforementioned torques? This would explain why Dragoon, which can equip Love Halbred, is able to succeed at sealing Call Wyvern while wearing the torque of the same name!

    What would happen if a Black Mage wearing Prudence Torque attempts to seal Manafont?
    Mystery of the Hope Torque


    Why is Puppetmaster able to equip Hope Staff? Out of all the jobs added after Rise of the Zilart, it is the only one able to equip one of the Jailer Weapons. What would happen if a Puppetmaster wearing Hope Torque attempted to seal AV? Could it be a weak point against “Bracelet Mode” … ?
    JPButton � AV を倒す! Locking Absolute Virtue’s Abilities

    For Reference:

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ove_Torque.jpg
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ve_Halberd.png

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ith_Torque.png
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1..._Baghnakhs.png

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ude_Torque.png
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...rtitudeAxe.jpg

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ope_Torque.jpg
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../HopeStaff.png

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ticetorque.png
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...tice_Sword.png

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nce_Torque.png
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...udence_Rod.png

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ancetorque.png
    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...erance_Axe.png
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    PUP is the secret to AV. Close down BG. We're done here.
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    Who wants to test it first!
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    Same Suteki from Siren? zomg
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    But i thought players had already tried EVERYTHING! (judging from the usual responses of every new AV thread).
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    So...using the two hour against the same two hour gives a chance to lock it...and maybe equipping a sea torque gives a greater chance to lock it...?

    I'd swear it was tried already before.
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    I don't want to believe it yet, but it's worth testing.
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    Actually I don't think I ever read people making sure people have the Torques, only weapons. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    So we have to wait until it uses that specific 2 hour to lock it?

    And while I am always hopeful, this seems like more speculation without validity or evidence to back them up.
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    Please test this ASAP. Any trolling will be removed.
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    And most torques have poor drop rates? :d
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    Let's call Apathy LS to the rescue to try this out and see if it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyred View Post
    And most torques have poor drop rates? :d
    Lies, I've seen 7 justice torques drop in the 60+ JoJs I've done!
    While all of them have quit or been banned, I know mine will drop soon!


    (I do not do sea anymore)
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    Great, we just got done with our second and last JoL for the day literally two minutes ago and then I see this.
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    wait.

    so in all this time did nobody think "hay , maybe the sea torques have something to do with AV?"

    well. Speculations aside I'd like to see someone bring this mystery of how SE wants you to kill AV specifically. because apparently theres only one way to do it that is less than 2 hours from JoL's pop, and if you find another way, its totallypatched
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nattack View Post
    wait.

    so in all this time did nobody think "hay , maybe the sea torques have something to do with AV?"
    Strangely, though it has surely been said, I do not think I've seen it tested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    So we have to wait until it uses that specific 2 hour to lock it?

    And while I am always hopeful, this seems like more speculation without validity or evidence to back them up.
    I wouldn't say no evidence. He says they regularly locked call wyvern and then one day they didn't with only difference being the absence of torque drg. Might not work at all, but it's the first info on AV in a long time and it actually completely fits into the realm of possibility. My ls has a fair amount of torques, but won't be doing JoL again until next Tuesday.
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