AV video solved? - Torque Theory Only

[Sylvrdragon]

Astura, it isn't matched up by stats, but by the jobs on the corresponding weapons.

Justice = RDM, PLD, THF = Chainspell, Invincible, Perfect Dodge
Prudence = WHM, BLM = Benediction, Manafont
Hope = BRD, SMN, PUP = Soul Voice, Astral Flow, Whatever
Faith = MNK, NIN = Hundred Fists, Mijin Gakure
Fortitude = WAR, DRK = Mighty Strikes, Blood Weapon
Temperance = BST, RNG = Charm, Eagle Eye Shot
Love = DRG, SAM = Call Wyvern, Meikyo Shisui

[Psion]

Actually, the theory of pups overdrive removing bracelets mode isn't as farfetched as it might sound. Bracelets give an aern a large boots to att and attack speed, and Overdrive gives an automaton a large boost to attack, 25% haste, as well as defensive things like parrying chance.

[Shadowhusky]

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Wasn't it already proven that the video SE gave was filmed during several hours of gameplay or such? I remember people talking about the in game clock and day during the various AV videos.

[astura]

Well i kinda went a step further looked at the main stat of each torque and further associated those with the jobs/2hours to see if a pattern existed.

[Neosutra]

I dont think you have to match the 2 hour, just 2 hour when he does. Imagine having to match manafont meteor, or lock bene by watching him bene at 20%.

[Ramses]

You say that like Prudence torque does nothing for a blm...

It's just doubtful in that situation. Add to the fact that most blms don't even have the torque and the fact that this rare blm wearing the torque while manafonting to match AV was part of a group that kept fighting AV long enough to realize manafont was locked. This may all turn out to not work anyway, it's just nice to be talking actual game stuff again after reading nothing but ban posts the past week.

[Sho]

Actually from a certain standpoint based on SE and their love for winking and nodding to mythical stories, doing all that torque/weapon/2hr song and dance would match up with Dante's Divina Commedia. Is basically an epic tale of Dante traveling through Hell, Purgatory, then Heaven.

AV would definately be based on "Paradiso" (Paradise/Heaven) of the epic. By the time of the end of the story, it becomes in a "stage" format of 9 Rings of Heaven, showing as if Dante (you) are getting closer to God (which is also known as "Absolute Virtue") and the requirements. The closest one could get to God is by totally imbuing all virtues (which could explain why you'd have to "lock" AVs two hours by 2hring with a Torque/Weapon on).

Check it out here if you want the wiki shortened version:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Comedy#Paradiso

[Kenji]

So, after all this time, when we thought the secret was jailor weapons... we were half right?

[D44kpunk]

I like how people are posting accepting that this idea is right, could have just been chance in his tests. If this is how you kill it that's retarded.

[Airenn]

In that video, they either didn't lock Chainspell or it doesn't show it getting locked because AV does AeroV>AergoIV>AeroV

Just as a note to myself, really. Watching the vid.

Elso, someone said "just have to two hour when he does"

In the video, note he Invis and nearly everyone pops off two hour after that. Then he Chainspells, among other things. Those obviously did not get locked?

[Genosync]

It's sad, but this actually seems possible and is the best of any AV theorycraft to come about.

[cdgreg]

Man it'd be great if when they nerfed it to a 2 hour kill they also changed it so if you equip torque and 2 hour it, it locks his 2 hour without him ever using it. A boy can dream...

[Drex]

Surprised so many people are jumping to conclusions off of one failed attempt to prevent call wyvern...

[Ramses]

I like how people are posting accepting that this idea is right, could have just been chance in his tests. If this is how you kill it that's retarded.

I don't think anybody is accepting anything. It is the rare AV theory that we don't know is wrong immediately and it is a very nice change of topic. And you're wrong, if this is how you kill it, WE are retarded.

[astura]

Ok another insight possibly looking again the 2 hours you can group them this way

panic>enduring>defensive>clam<defensive<enduring< panic
int>agi>str>dex<vit<mnd<chr

int (benidiction/manafont)
agi (soul voice/astral flow)
str(chainspell/perfect dodge /invicible)
dex (call wyvern/meikyo shisui)
vit (Mighty strikes/blood weapon)
mnd (mijin gaukre/hundred first)
chr (eagle eye shot/familar or charm)

SO it seems there is a balance to them or a grouping

[Neosutra]

In that video, they either didn't lock Chainspell or it doesn't show it getting locked because AV does AeroV>AergoIV>AeroV

Just as a note to myself, really. Watching the vid.

Elso, someone said "just have to two hour when he does"

In the video, note he Invis and nearly everyone pops off two hour after that. Then he Chainspells, among other things. Those obviously did not get locked?

Based on the times in the log, and the fact that they used their 2 hours multiple times, once could suggest that it was multiple attempts patched together and not draw conclusions from their locking/not locking of previous 2hours (i.e. how that rdm used CS when AV 2houred, but then it CSd later in the clip still).

This should be pretty easy to test, no reason to debate it here until it is.

[Kaylia]

It's sad, but this actually seems possible and is the best of any AV theorycraft to come about.

Eh? it's the same good old "jailer weapons" theory with a small twist. I'm pretty sure it was posted a few times already.

Tried? Probably not. Only a fraction of those are actually tested.

[Sho]

Surprised so many people are jumping to conclusions off of one failed attempt to prevent call wyvern...

Like Genosync said, it's probably the best theorycraft to come around for a damn long time. I'd rather believe this than the troves of idiots believing KClubbing him is the only way to defeat him.

[Guitarman]

The thought of giving a justice torque to a rdm hurts.

[Shuemue]

Surprised so many people are jumping to conclusions off of one failed attempt to glitch call wyvern...

FTFY

Oh and guys, don't forget to equip your Ix'Aern capes too! BEG FOR HIS MERCY, PRAY FOR HIS ASTUTENESS, WORSHIP HIS ALTRUISM!