AV video solved? - Torque Theory Only

[Sho]

Also a potential wow in Wafik's new Blog Post, if no one has read it yet. I think he's still typing it as I read.

[Lordwafik]

Also a potential wow in Wafik's new Blog Post, if no one has read it yet. I think he's still typing it as I read.

Finished now

[Sho]

Finished now

Haha, sorry for ironically stealing sum thunder. >.>

[Zoot]

One of the biggest reasons why people say AV theories are a load of shit is because they're theories and god doesn't love you. Also because go try it out always ends up with the bail out but I'm only level 50 or my LS is too whack excuse.

Also because I can't edit

[Lordwafik]

Haha, sorry for ironically stealing sum thunder. >.>

Not at all, I wasn't going to link it to this thread untill the torque theory plays out first as I don't want to intrude something that possibly works.

[Sho]

Not at all, I wasn't going to link it to this thread untill the torque theory plays out first as I don't want to intrude something that possibly works.

Ahh cool cool. Hell of a read if dude is really from SE, I'll tell you that. If not, someone really had ALOT of free time to want to fuck with you over AV. ><

[Ramses]

Not at all, I wasn't going to link it to this thread untill the torque theory plays out first as I don't want to intrude something that possibly works.

Well all enfeebles log as resisted and even in the video they never "stun" spells, they all get hit with aeroga IV. AV doesn't choose 2 hours from who is present, even in the french video he hundred fists and no mnk is present. There is no evidence of anything being dispelled, every time AV 2 hours in the video, he carries out that two hour. I'd lean towards troll on this one.

[JigglyJam]

Haven't heard of torques, might as well try it.

[Virtuous Saint]

I like this theory slightly more than mine.

[gamez]

I'm willing to give this a shot, anyone else on Asura wishing to try it, I'll gladly visit sea with you to gather torques for my jobs and sacrifice a couple exp to trying AV.

[Ramses]

I'm willing to give this a shot, anyone else on Asura wishing to try it, I'll gladly visit sea with you to gather torques for my jobs and sacrifice a couple exp to trying AV.

Lol that is so generous of you to sacrifice some exp for some measly sea torques.

[Kirin]

Surprised so many people are jumping to conclusions off of one failed attempt to prevent call wyvern...

Well, more often than not the exception to the rule proves the rule...this is really the first sensical idea that isnt either too "out there" or so simple it was overlooked...

The 2 "biggie" 2 hours are off jobs that wouldnt normally use their torque and jailer weapon (whm/blm) and then pup being in the mixed is explained as a result IF everything pans out to be true...

We might be experiencing one of those "oh shit..." historic moments.

[urat]

Makes sense. not gonna bother saying anything else and digging a hole other than:

If it works, this has SE's pattern written all over it. Easy to do by accident, nigh impossible to replicate on purpose. And a definite "wtf why didnt we think of it sooner?"

[Durden]

For reference, this is the timeline:

Timeline:
This is the time line of SE's fight with Absolute Virtue, it is very short and concise. Credit goes to Atreides of Fairy.

1. Iceday 12:10, Call Wyvern (from English Video, part 3)
player 2hrs used: blm, pld, smn, drg (call wyvern), rdm, brd, blm

2. Iceday 14:42, Soul Voice (from Japanese Video, part 1 and German Video, part 2)
player 2hrs used: blm, smn, blm, drg, brd, brd, sam, whm, blm, drk, blm, rdm

3. Iceday 16:14, 100 Fists (from French Video, part 2)
player 2hrs used: blm, brd, blm, brd, smn, rdm

4. Iceday 16:55, Meikyo Shisui (from Japanese Video, part 2 and German Video, Part 3)
player 2hrs used: blm, brd, blm, sam, drg, brd, smn, rdm, drk, brd

5. Lightningsday 5:07 Chainspell (from English Video, part 2 and French Video, part 3)
player 2hrs used: blm, brd, rdm, brd

6. Lightningsday 6:50 Soul Voice (from English Video part 1)
player 2hrs used: pld, blm, whm, blm, sam, drg, whm, smn, blm, blm, brd, drk, rdm, brd, brd

7. Lightningsday 8:55 Astral Flow (from French Video, part 1 and German Video, part 1)
player 2hrs used: blm, blm, blm, brd, rdm, brd, blm, drg, smn, whm, rdm, drk

8. Lightningsday 13:55 Astral Flow (from Japanese Video, part 3)
player 2hrs used: pld, blm, smn, brd, drg, blm, blm, pld, blm, rdm, brd, rdm


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http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/ffxi-...xperience.html

This timeline really doesn't help support this theory as AV uses two hours that players used earlier, but there it is.

No mnk 2hr for Hundred Fists seem to result in AV using another 2hr quicker compared to the other 2hrs where it was matched, just thought I'd point out

[Skjie]

Nice, this got weird pretty fast. How about that Linkshell that said they had things locked?

[Sylvrdragon]

I think people are just welcoming a change of the subject on BG. If this were posted during update speculation/.dat mining/exploring, it would be summarily flamed and ignored, but since it came at such a down time, it doesn't look so bad. Not to mention, we now have a true and legitimate PW kill, so there is literally nothing else left (unless you count Almighty Apkallu). Not to mention, Elmer's name was linked with it in the OP, so it automatically got bumped up a couple levels on the credibility scale (and rightfully so).

[Suiram]

When I saw Elmer's blog earlier this afternoon, I think my sentiments were the same as a lot of people here who've seen years of AV theories. It feels pretty Ebon Panely, but I can't help but want it to be true.

Anyway, what I am curious about is the "success" they've had with Call Wyvern. How much evidence do they have that it has worked (with torque), and how exactly does it manifest itself. Does it stun him from using the 2h when you use it at the same time? Does it prevent him from using it if you used it earlier? Do you have to eat each 2H once, but if you 2H with torque then he won't use it again? Maybe someone can find out from him, unless Rocl's birdie wasn't lying and someone was able to replicate it.

[Sonomaa]

focus on AV, not on alla

[Ramses]

When I saw Elmer's blog earlier this afternoon, I think my sentiments were the same as a lot of people here who've seen years of AV theories. It feels pretty Ebon Panely, but I can't help but want it to be true.

Anyway, what I am curious about is the "success" they've had with Call Wyvern. How much evidence do they have that it has worked (with torque), and how exactly does it manifest itself. Does it stun him from using the 2h when you use it at the same time? Does it prevent him from using it if you used it earlier? Do you have to eat each 2H once, but if you 2H with torque then he won't use it again? Maybe someone can find out from him, unless Rocl's birdie wasn't lying and someone was able to replicate it.

Yep, my first thought was, how did he know it was locked? You have to survive quite awhile and watch him use all sorts of other two hours and repeat this on a few different attempts to start coming to this conclusion. He may just have not used call wyvern, though it is very common for him to use often.

[Tarage]

Just wow.