Emergency Maintenance Zhayolm Remnants

[Genosync]

hahaha, ban people for exploiting their bugs and then make the same zones even harder to piss people off

good fucking job SE, continue killing your game

[Zoot]

So we just did a Z remnants and floor 6 didn't pop. Killed floor 2, popped jakko, floor 3, 4 and 5. I'm thinking they changed it so that you actually have to kill jakko now. Either that or set a time limit for floor 6 ;_;

[cdgreg]

So we just did a Z remnants and floor 6 didn't pop. Killed floor 2, popped jakko, floor 3, 4 and 5. I'm thinking they changed it so that you actually have to kill jakko now.

I'm hoping this is the case, it'd be much better than jakko not counting towards 6th PM

[Arximiro]

So we just did a Z remnants and floor 6 didn't pop. Killed floor 2, popped jakko, floor 3, 4 and 5. I'm thinking they changed it so that you actually have to kill jakko now. Either that or set a time limit for floor 6 ;_;

Regardless of if you killed Jakko you still killed 4 frogs so 6 should have popped. According to your post you killed 2, 3, 4, and 5. Maybe they made 6f req. higher?

[Zoot]

Mistake, didn't kill floor four. We killed the others and popped jakko. So basically in the past what would have been the minimum for floor 6.

[Aihree]

Just to be sure, the popper did claim Jakko? I'm sure you've done this many times, just wanting to make sure this isn't the one time the popper didn't claim him.

[Arximiro]

Mistake, didn't kill floor four. We killed the others and popped jakko. So basically in the past what would have been the minimum for floor 6.

Ah ok, I wonder if they quit counting Jakko as a frog or if you simply have to kill him. If he doesn't count at all now though that will be shitty since a few posts up someone said the 1f frog isn't working now either.

Edit: The logout trick for the 1f frog that is.

[Zoot]

Just to be sure, the popper did claim Jakko? I'm sure you've done this many times, just wanting to make sure this isn't the one time the popper didn't claim him.

I was the porter so I wasn't in the room. It is a possibility, although this is the first time I've heard of jakko not being claimed making the pop invalid before. Will this happen if it's aggroed and not red?

[Aihree]

I've been told that if he's not claimed, he doesn't count. BUT I've always been the popper and guaranteed that he's claimed before going up. I have not tested it otherwise.

[Arximiro]

I've been told that if he's not claimed, he doesn't count. BUT I've always been the popper and guaranteed that he's claimed before going up. I have not tested it otherwise.

I've popped him before and never claimed and we were fine.

[mdkuser]

I think people should check if 4FN is up after they warp to 4th floor. They might have increased the time to 45 minutes like 4FS.

[Velecic]

Did Zhayolm Remnants tonight, unfortunately we all forgot to bring a card (plan was 5F+6F) so we decided to do 5F+Boss instead. Didn't pop 2F (dupe) or kill 3F frogs, but I did check for 4FN frog and it was NOT up when we ported to that floor (49mins in, so 45min is possible). We would have gotten there sooner but we spent extra time getting gear cells since we knew we wouldn't be doing 6F. Didn't get to check Jakko sadly, we were going to kill him since we heard from a friend's group that just popping him didn't work for 6F (2f + Jakko + 3F + 5F).

[hedcc]

So we just did a Z remnants and floor 6 didn't pop. Killed floor 2, popped jakko, floor 3, 4 and 5. I'm thinking they changed it so that you actually have to kill jakko now. Either that or set a time limit for floor 6 ;_;

oh my :\ as if the stupid fixed frog chorus wasnt a pain to deal with now another 2 mins waste on silly imp were starting a week of zhaylom on sunday guess wel see for ousrelves

[rithridan]

Jakko not counting towards the total (frog)NM killcounter thus forcing you to either do 5FN/boss or 2F/3FS/4FS/5FS/6F(/boss) really would be in lieu with SE's whole idea of making you waste the most possible time on events.

I think it's the banned people their turn to laugh at our expenses again.

I know for sure some people in my LS are gonna be pissed off as hell by this. Especially since we (unlike a lot of other groups) have never been that fortunate with frog drops.

[Zumi]

Since can't logout anymore could bring more monks do F1, F2, F3S, F5N, F6. Most likely will run out of time for boss though. If you want to do boss that means probably no F6.

[rithridan]

Ever since the Chorus fix we haven't been as consistent on killing 5FN/6F/boss because of the time sink thats called Frog Chorus and our inability to reliably stun it. If we have to kill even more frog NMs I doubt my group would be able to even kill (2F, 3FS, 4FS, 5FS, 6F +) boss unless we get real lucky on (lack of) Chorus spam or stuns.

[Velecic]

Ever since the Chorus fix we haven't been as consistent on killing 5FN/6F/boss because of the time sink thats called Frog Chorus and our inability to reliably stun it. If we have to kill even more frog NMs I doubt my group would be able to even kill (2F, 3FS, 4FS, 5FS, 6F +) boss unless we get real lucky on (lack of) Chorus spam or stuns.

Seconded. I really hate Zhayolm Remnants because my group has high demand on both 6F 35s and Boss 25s, and I just can't reliably fit both into a run, so doing boss means skipping 6F or doing 6F means no time for boss unless we're really fast and lucky. And this was before today's patch, now it's even worse

[Kaia]

Light at the end of the tunnel: YAY @ not needing 15 SSR cards clogging up my inventory.

[Cyprias]

One of my LS member's did ZR 5+6F farm today, said killing Jakko does work for 6F. I'm not sure on this though, would need more confirmation since I wasn't there to see this happen.

[Uzor]

The problem with 4N is not that it takes too long to pop it... it's that it takes too long to pop 5N if you're intending to kill 4N as well.

3N's pop condition = Clear ~30-40 mobs that drop NOTHING.

4N's pop condition = Reach Floor 4 in ~30 minutes.

5N's pop condition = Fully Unlock Three Members.

That said... if you Pop 3N, you will also need to clear AT LEAST half of the mobs in 3S if you intend to pop 5N... in popping 3N, you hereby make it impossible to kill 4N and very unlikely to pop 6F as well.

If you pop 4N, you are not killing 3N, nor are you killing 5N because you have no time to farm cells. You might get away with Jakko and 2F, but you won't get away with 1F. That's three NMs, so you aren't killing 6F either.

5F doesn't take too long if you intend to kill 4F as well. It takes about the same time as 2F > 3S > 5N > 6F, since generally the time lost farming 4F for stat cells is saved by reaching 4F in under 30 min.

Either way, if they changed it so you have to kill Jakko, I don't see it having much of an impact. Killing Jakko takes no more then like 30 sec at the most anyway. We usually have to redo 4F 3 times anyway due to VIT or MND not dropping on 3F (as the last room drops both of them, and we usually don't have time to clear all of last room on 4F)