Low manning Omega

[Aro]

Setup/strat/tips. Much appreciated

[Pergo]

nin/drk
nin/drk
brd
rdm
blm
blm

wouldn't be too hard to solo tank, except he'd probably get a hate reset off sometime and then things would go crazy. but 2 tanks wouldn't need more healing than a rdm. 2 blms should be able to take on pods and deal enough damage to kill him in 30min, just add more blms from there. kaeko has a good writeup of a 6man setup on his blog

[tsola]

Tank (RDM/NIN NIN/DRK PLD/NIN, whatever)
BRD/WHM
RDM/WHM
BLM/NIN
BLM/NIN

Have BLMs bring some haste gear for when they get hate. Make sure you keep it slowed/paralyzed and elegy. Omega doesn't double attack at all, pre 25% it doesn't have any kind of TP regen, making it VERY simple to tank.

First gunpod pops when it goes into 2 leged form for the first time; have a blm claim with stun then both tier 4 it. Keep dots on.

Once it goes back to 4legs, have your blms spam it. I generally use all my mp. If they get hate, it's fine; it's so easy to keep utsu up as long as it's enfeebled. Once it's back to 2 legs, rest up. Repeat once it's back to 4legs, etc...

Once it's at 25%, it will go into it's final mode. It will always pop a gunpod at this time, kill it like the first one. Then we typically just have everyone 2hour and zerg it.

Assuming people are decently geared(don't need anything too crazy) and intelligent at their jobs, you should have no problems.

[Aro]

kaeko has a good writeup of a 6man setup on his blog

Wow, I remember reading all of Kaeko's posts but don't remember coming across this one. Thanks a lot for the reply. Once again Kaeko helps us through the grave .

[Senji]

Solo Nin/Drk tanking;

If you keep a souleater or last resort in your pocket, after hate reset you can stun and use it and you'll have hate back before it gets to within 10 ft of the mages easily.

[stewie]

You could've just asked me Aro.

Since we're probably going to need Ultima lowman setup also~

NIN/RDM(DRK)
RDM/DRK
BRD/WHM
SCH/RDM
BLM/RDM
BLM/RDM

One thing to note, Ultima has pitiful stun resistance.

Make sure to keep it DoT/Paralyzed/Elegy/Slowed at all times, BLM should nuke in full elemental skill gear to minimize resists. Ultima has around 50,000 HP. and has 50% magic resistance. A unresisted T4 nuke will take off about 1%. When Ultima petrifies the tank, SCH should Stona ASAP.

Hold Ultima at 21% and all mages should rest MP to full, or close to full. When ready, everyone should let off their strongest nuke without using manafont. After that, everyone except the mage who you think got the highest amount of hate should run away. The Mage that stays should continue nuking to try and grab hate, and stun for extra hate. Citadel Buster will go off and kill the 1 BLM, the BLM should reraise and all BLM should Manafont while the RDM chainspell stuns. If chainspell runs out it should start another Citadel Buster to get a few extra seconds to kill it.

[Valyana]

RDM/DRK stunning the 19% Dissipation?

What does chainstun do for you here? Does it really prevent Ultima from starting the CB countdown? Does it prevent Mana Screen?

[stewie]

It prevents Ultima from hitting the BLMs so that they can damage it and not worry about hate. It does require luck in it not using Mana Screen anytime during the 2 minutes it should take to take it from 21% to 0%.

[Thorny]

It prevents Ultima from hitting the BLMs so that they can damage it and not worry about hate. It does require luck in it not using Mana Screen anytime during the 2 minutes it should take to take it from 21% to 0%.

it only uses one screen at a time in final phase, right after a CB.. get a tank that doesn't suck and can live through CB and wait for a physical shield if you're using this strat and the luck aspect goes away for the most part(it still loves to spam whichever screen you don't want, seen 18 straight physicals before with a melee setup)

[JetEnduro]

The setup I personally use is

NIN/DRK
NIN/DRK
RDM/DRK
BRD/WHM
BLM/WHM
BLM/WHM

PT2
SAM/WAR
BLM/WHM(If he showed)

Sam helps lower kill time a lot and also we use the same to voke third eye tank the pod while blms take care of it.

Basically using Kaeko's strat but added the sam for better gunpod control. (IMO anyways)

[Uris]

Hmmm.

I understand that Ultima can double attack and have low acc comparetively so a NIN/X can tank pretty well.

Just wonder, how well will a RDM/NIN hold up instead? The evasion is laughable and some TP attacks will go through 2 shadows.

Will it be considerably more difficult? However, it will be easier for a RDM/NIN to survive CB though.

Does it also follow up CB/Shield with Holy II?

Thanks!

[orson]

Pld is probably a better bet as tank given that atonement damage is insane. On that note, I'm not actually 100% that atonement works well on him so I'd get some confirmation on that.

[SubzeroDiabolos]

It does when it's on four leg did that yesterday.

[The Stig]

Does Atonement work on Ultima too?

SubzeroDiabolos: Any resist (I know it can't be resisted but i.e. damage reduction) on Omega with Atonement?

[Yugl]

Our PLD's Atonement are ~700 DMG (This one was early so they didn't have all the enmity they needed), so it appears to be unresisted when Omega is using four leg mode.

[Thorny]

Hmmm.

I understand that Ultima can double attack and have low acc comparetively so a NIN/X can tank pretty well.

Just wonder, how well will a RDM/NIN hold up instead? The evasion is laughable and some TP attacks will go through 2 shadows.

Will it be considerably more difficult? However, it will be easier for a RDM/NIN to survive CB though.

Does it also follow up CB/Shield with Holy II?

Thanks!

Having tanked Ultima on both RDM and NIN, I much prefer NIN/DRK. This is not because of the evasion so much as that citadel buster appears to remove a large portion of your CE.. NIN/DRK can get hate back much quicker than RDM/NIN can after it. The evasion is rather moot, I didn't tank it in evasion gear on ninja anyway.. I only use evasion for soloing for the most part. Both jobs can survive CB and all TP moves with good reliability, keep in mind that CB does not strip shadows and does wipe Ultima's TP so as long as a double light proc CB doesn't one shot you, mages have ample time to cure you to full. I know as an elvaan w/ shellra 5(only one merit iirc), my setup allowed me to live through light weather x2 + lightsday procs all on the same CB, though I guess tarus probably have trouble w/ just living through the weather x2 proc since I had about everything but d.ring and minerva's.

[Uris]

Hmm. Alright noted with thanks, although I thought RDM is better at building CE? Both Dispel and Stun gives same amount of VE (although Stun is more useful)
NIN/DRK have Sleep I/II Absorb TP that gives >300CE while RDM have more spells to get CE back after the CB.

[Valyana]

Hmm? Dispel is 320 VE, Stun is 1280. /DRK also gives Last Resort and Souleater for 1300 VE each. This is why /DRK is nice for things with hate reset; /RDM gives lots of good tools for building up hate over time, but doesn't have the hate spikes for grabbing it back fast.

[Yugl]

Hmm. Alright noted with thanks, although I thought RDM is better at building CE? Both Dispel and Stun gives same amount of VE (although Stun is more useful)
NIN/DRK have Sleep I/II Absorb TP that gives >300CE while RDM have more spells to get CE back after the CB.

RDM relies on a combination of CE and VE. NIN mostly relies on VE. Between the two, RDM generates faster CE, but NIN generates faster VE. CB removes a truck of CE, which takes a lot of time to restore. So when CB occurs, you a tank able to quickly recover enmity of any sort. That is why NIN turns out to be the better tank in this case.

[evilpaul]

How did this go from Lowman Omega to Lowman Ultima and /DRK or /RDM on your NIN tank randomly in one post? O.o