Dancer - 1 year after WotG

[urat]

enmity- setup is pointless /nin, if you pull hate you help tank, wivre mask is crap because you're wearing a DD setup and there are a bunch of better heads for DD setups.. hell, emp pin is free and arguably better for both DD and evasion

Ah yes missed this one too...

So your saying a dancer getting hate from colibri is cool? You know, getting blasted from ws THAT REMOVES MY FUCKING TP is totally fine and all. ESPECIALLY if I'm main healing, right right?

ugh... >_>

[Thorny]

So not bothering to dump 50-60K on an extra 2 dmg is gimp? oh boy..

Yes.

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Ignoring something that makes you gimp doesn't make you no longer gimp.

Ok, see what you mean now. so 3 acc is > 3dex and 3 agi?

Yes.

... So so far you seen I'm wearing eva 10 head, eva 10 body, did you stop to consider was using the 5 eva on my feet? As opposed to 3 eva on hq tabins?

You specifically said you were doing walls, last I checked they don't do a whole lot of evadable attacks.

9 tp store for 5k is > 2 acc for couple million

it costs that per use, assuming you make 10k exp/hr constantly then from 60-75(442,800 exp) you're using 88 carbonara or 440k at your prices. Using 88 meat mithkabobs or crab sushi at 3k/stack costs 22k. When you hit 75, you'll have thrown out 418k on negligible increase when your gear is absolute shit anyway.

Not much better but maybe valk mask. but I was, once again, wearing the mask for... evasion. 10 of it. Only other piece with that much is emp pin. Yeah its free if you wanna sit around bored waiting for mob to pop... Or I could just spend the 100K on a much higher level better def mask with 2 vit...

def/vit vs agi when eva tanking, you tell me which is better.. again, eva for walls?

Once again, the only way i'll blow anythign over 500K on a piece of gear is if I intend to be wearing it at level 75. And there's only a select few pieces that fit that description. Honestly, I'm losing about 2-3 acc, couple points of agi, and gaining some other stats anyways, and saving a few million gil.

Yet you'll waste almost 500k in carbonara to get 75 that results in absolutely no increase once you're there.

Gimp? not really, more like sub par pimp. Cost of gear versus pimpness is generally exponential. Once piece, second best, could be like 200K, but the best piece, which has like an extra 1 or 2 points on it will be several million.

I ask myself if it's worth it. the answer is generally no.

Unless its a really spiffy looking hat. <3 my spiffy hats

Your carbonara is one of the worst cost->rewards ratio you could be using at the moment. If you buy a white box piece of gear for 2-3 acc and later need the gil, you can resell it. Good luck getting the gil for your carbonara back.

Ah yes missed this one too...

So your saying a dancer getting hate from colibri is cool? You know, getting blasted from ws THAT REMOVES MY FUCKING TP is totally fine and all. ESPECIALLY if I'm main healing, right right?

ugh... >_>

If you're main healing, that implies a 4-5 DD party. If you're pulling hate main healing, then you're in a party with 4-5 BAD DD. Besides, if you're spamming waltz enough to get any noticable amount of hate, then you're not going to have too much tp leftover anyway.

Nobody likes you, nobody believes any of your crutch arguments, go back to alla and leave us alone.

[urat]

Seems to me we got an elitist who thinks there is no such thing as sub par, only exceedingly gimp and perfectly pimped out D:

The difference of course being whether or not your willing to spend your entire life sitting and farming gil for that extra 2 dmg...

*sigh*

[Bluefire]

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[Yugl]

You specifically said you were doing walls, last I checked they don't do a whole lot of evadable attacks.

In Lebros Cavern, walls evade you!

So not bothering to dump 50-60K on an extra 2 dmg is gimp? oh boy..

Actually it is.

[urat]

Actually it is.

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Fine, i'm officially gimp -.-

Still would rather spend the money leveling a craft >_>

[Thorny]

Seems to me we got an elitist who thinks there is no such thing as sub par, only exceedingly gimp and perfectly pimped out D:

The difference of course being whether or not your willing to spend your entire life sitting and farming gil for that extra 2 dmg...

*sigh*

I've made enough gil to equip your DNC properly in less than 6 hours many many times. You're a whiny noob who wants to think they're better than everyone else(cue the mention of your carbonara being better food than we use in dynamis somewhere.. too bad you don't realize nobody cares what people use in dyna) and spouts bullshit all over BG.

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Fine, i'm officially gimp -.-

Still would rather spend the money leveling a craft >_>

Too bad getting anything out of crafting requires basic economic knowledge. Since you bash your tiny upgrades that won't lose resale value(protip: your NQs do) and use carbonara all the time which has no resale value, I'd assume you're incapable of making profit with crafts anyway. Even the best crafters don't make all that much nowadays unless they're lucky with T1s or T0s, market is pretty cutthroat with so many people at 100 on each craft.

[urat]

I've made enough gil to equip your DNC properly in less than 6 hours many many times. You're a whiny noob who wants to think they're better than everyone else(cue the mention of your carbonara being better food than we use in dynamis somewhere.. too bad you don't realize nobody cares what people use in dyna) and spouts bullshit all over BG.

Cept if I was whinny I'd be complaining that Reverse flourish should be lv 37, or that puppets are weak, or that mythic weapons are gimp, or that the final ultimate bosses SE gave us are too hard, or that the economy sucks, or that my accuracy sucks.

Cept, they dont, they're not, and I'm not.

I don't think i'm better. I just don't think my armor sucks. And I also believe there is a difference between "meh my gear works" and sporting brass harness and bone knives at level 66.

If you seriosuly think I'm gimp, then either your one of the people that assumes a set is gimp because one part is off, or you assume everythign is gimp but the perfect all HQ ultimate set of armor. Woe betide if someone may decide to save a bit of cash and go for something 10x cheaper and only slightly less stat wise.

You're the kind of person that refuses to by nq ele staves or nq sh.

I'm the kind of guy that would wear something cheap and slightly less than perfect just so I'm not another scoprion harness walmart turban carbon copy. Sorry if I'm trampling on your perfected idea of the ultimate set of armor dude, but honestly, so what?

So my gear is off by 2 dmg? You honestly saying I'm not gonna get invited to parties or end game because I'm not sporting full HQ and the best of the best of the best ultimate leats cost efficient armor?

Guess that means every paladin wearing a piece of adaman armor instead of gem is fuckin gimp to.

Edit:

Well, heading to bed now, school and whatnot. cue the 10-12 people walking in posting their oh so witty pics now that i'm not here. you know the drill, make fun of misread points.

Bonus if you never leveled the job to 37, let alone have af to know what your talking about. ciao~

[Yugl]

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Fine, i'm officially gimp -.-

Still would rather spend the money leveling a craft >_>

You're equating the sum of the whole with the individual component. Just because one piece of gear is gimp, it doesn't mean the player is gimp overall. Then again, I don't know much about DNC to make that call in this case.

[Thorny]

If you seriosuly think I'm gimp, then either your one of the people that assumes a set is gimp because one part is off, or you assume everythign is gimp but the perfect all HQ ultimate set of armor. Woe betide if someone may decide to save a bit of cash and go for something 10x cheaper and only slightly less stat wise.

I think you're gimp because you're making poor choices with what you have available to you.. I would not consider someone gimp for having NQ gear alone.

You're the kind of person that refuses to by nq ele staves or nq sh.

HQ staves are some of the biggest increase HQs available, upgrading to a HQ staff increases your magic accuracy by ~15 and your damage by 5% in the case of nukes.. I owned a NQ SH for ages though.

I'm not another scoprion harness walmart turban carbon copy. Sorry if I'm trampling on your perfected idea of the ultimate set of armor dude, but honestly, so what?

So nothing, you're willingly being less efficient than you could be with what's available to you. That's great, just take it back to allakhazam.

So my gear is off by 2 dmg? You honestly saying I'm not gonna get invited to parties or end game because I'm not sporting full HQ and the best of the best of the best ultimate leats cost efficient armor?

Madawc has an apocalypse and has done everything in the game pretty much, Roundhouse got excal and aegis and also did most things in the game. You can do almost anything in the game in garbage gear, this does not make it any better viewed by the community here.

Guess that means every paladin wearing a piece of adaman armor instead of gem is fuckin gimp to.

Yes, they are. This is because adaman is garbage besides the body, not because it needs to be HQ.

Well, heading to bed now, school and whatnot. cue the 10-12 people walking in posting their oh so witty pics now that i'm not here. you know the drill, make fun of misread points.

Bonus if you never leveled the job to 37, let alone have af to know what your talking about. ciao~

Apparently, you need to level a job to understand the basic mechanics behind it. Why bother going to school, you're not the one developing the newest formulas or theorems, defining the english language, present at historical events, or actually doing scientific tests to confirm new ideas so you won't know what you're talking about after you finish anyway.

[Silenka]

you know the drill, make fun of misread retarded points.

I fixed it for you.

Bonus if you never leveled the job to 37, let alone have af to know what your talking about. ciao~

Because you have AF and therefore you do know what you're talking about?

[Gaea]

why is Gaea posting again ? was he unbanned from advanced or did he got banned on alla ?

DNC is good in lowman stuff and thats about it unfortunatly.. most of the time you can fill the spot with something more usefull than a dancer

Didn't take long for this topic to get derailed. It seems it started right around the time this guy started posting. I guess this is what happens when siblings make children. By the way, Gaea wasn't banned and Gaea is a woman.

If this could get back on track, though, has anyone done low-man limbus with a Dancer? Or even just plain Limbus with a Dancer along, for that matter? Our Limbus, sadly, doesn't have one, and I still need to level mine.

One of my issues with this in Salvage is the abilities cell, specifically in Arrapago Remnants. Dancer (if skilled correctly) can do so well with it's H2H on the first and second floor, and Haste +10% (if max merited) is awesome on any salvage run and can buy an extra 7+ minutes if used throughout the entire run. But sometimes abilities cells just don't want to drop, here

[The Stig]

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This is WHY you're mentioned, you dumb fuck.

We knew you'll come in here and argue to the max. We knew you'll make stupid assumptions. We knew your DNC is not 75 to participate in any discussion in which we'll take you seriously. We knew you're retarded from before.

Also, my information tells me you're trying to buy a speed belt:

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[eva00r]

please just stop flaming each other, both of you look dumb enough already.

>>back to topic

How much damage a saber dance dancer can do, assuming there is already a rdm main cure? ... in case of meriting or basic nyzul/limbus runs

[Toth]

please just stop flaming each other, both of you look dumb enough already.

>>back to topic

How much damage a saber dance dancer can do, assuming there is already a rdm main cure? ... in case of meriting or basic nyzul/limbus runs

Well, the double attack rate is insane at the beginning, and with good attack, you can really put out respectable damage. Do a WS early in SD's life and its even better. Give a DNC haste and bard songs like other DDs and you really will not see drops in total damage (especially since any 'lost' damage for not having a premier DD will be made up by samba effects and steps decreasing a mob's stats).

[gamez]

Well, I can't say the OP didn't provoke urat into posting, I will say that he sure spams a lot of nonsense for his postcount and crapped up the entirety of the thread to be unreadable within one post.

[Alleya]

I pretty much agree with wafik (I'm a 75dnc). I think dancer is best in limbus/dynamis/small man sea. Their biggest strength is in lowman, or in a 2-hander melee party on prolonged fights. It's much easier to heal now without using the Spellcast plugin with the new <stpt> (but I still prefer spellcast).

You really can't underestimate the power of insta-cures. When people die who are not one shotted, it's usually because of the casting time on cure spells. Having a dnc there to heal them instantly saves many lives.

Honestly, though, the best use for dnc is to duo with one in campaign if you are a paladin or blue mage. A dancer will make them indestructible.

Spoiler: show

Also, they're mother fucking sexy.

http://www.bluegartr.com/gallery/alleya/1233513167.png

[Gaea]

I pretty much agree with wafik (I'm a 75dnc). I think dancer is best in limbus/dynamis/small man sea. Their biggest strength is in lowman, or in a 2-hander melee party on prolonged fights. It's much easier to heal now without using the Spellcast plugin with the new <stpt> (but I still prefer spellcast).

You really can't underestimate the power of insta-cures. When people die who are not one shotted, it's usually because of the casting time on cure spells. Having a dnc there to heal them instantly saves many lives.

Honestly, though, the best use for dnc is to duo with one in campaign if you are a paladin or blue mage. A dancer will make them indestructible.

Spoiler: show

Also, they're mother fucking sexy.

http://www.bluegartr.com/gallery/alleya/1233513167.png

I've duoed with them in campaign on PUP. We held two ninja yagudos while killing a third about 5 grid squares south of the outpost. Made buckets of points. I can hold a second on my own but only with whm automaton which means no awesome elemental magic for another damage-type to cap.

Low-man limbus is what I was wondering about and what zones they could do for PUP & DNC items >.>;

[Keyln]

I've duoed with them in campaign on PUP. We held two ninja yagudos while killing a third about 5 grid squares south of the outpost. Made buckets of points. I can hold a second on my own but only with whm automaton which means no awesome elemental magic for another damage-type to cap.

I'm surprised that you don't use the RDM puppet more when in Campaign. With the RDM puppet, you can use elemental magic AND have healing at the same time. The WHM puppet is great for healing, and the BLM puppet is great for nuking, but the RDM puppet provides both, although not as good as the other two in their respective areas. You really can have your cake and eat it too! (As opposed to eating your cake and having it too...)

[Gaea]

That's the one I use lol. I said I can only hold a second with the WHM puppet With the RDM puppet I can easy solo 1 and yeah, the Elemental Magic is nice. With a Dancer we were able to hold 2 ninjas on top of the third we were fighting and I used RDM puppet. So it was pretty nice to duo with a dancer because I can't hold them like that without my whm puppet. I could probably hold a second ninja with rdm puppet with one of the Body Boost Drinks, though.

Anyways, I don't wanna derail talking about pup