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    So..it can't be because I'm Elvaan..

    - FFXIAH.com

    3/8 GKT merits so far..(I hate meriting, but I'm working on it slowly)

    As far as gear goes this is the best I can afford/access atm. I'm going to get askar gloves to replace dusk because I'm poor and bad at making money, and I've had the worst luck getting a swift belt / hagun. But ANYWAYS..my main concern is actually my accuracy. I know 95% acc cap and 1 hit ws i'm going to miss from time to time, but i tend to miss a lot more on sam than on blu with just melee swings too.

    Should I be TPing in OHat until I get 8/8GKT? I know this sounds noobish, but I'm really confused on why I'm whiffing so often.

    I tend to whiff the MOST on Aura Statues in sky, Mamool Ja (obviously), and most evasive mobs (obviously) however I even tend to whiff WS semi-frequently in Dynamis too.

    My WS set is a large chunk of STR gear..as would be expected.

    So..ya..OHat til 8/8GKT or just suck it up and whiff? ; ; (I eat meat btw)

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    Brainfart..I mostly am complaining about higher evasive mobs..so I guess maybe a better question is..should I eat sushi/use ohat vs these mobs or..?

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    Any other merits we should know like stp merits etc? This could help determine more appropriate gear suggestions based on things like 6 hit or not.
    (To 6 hit sam you need 46 stp total -25 traits -10 merits you need 11 in gear. With raja's your just left with 6 needed in gear. )
    Otherwise a small tidbit is that if you don't have more then 8% haste in gear you won't parse any noticeable difference then if you didn't have them equipped.

    Case 1: you can't 6 hit then lose all stp gear and focus on acc/haste. You'll automatically get a 7 hit with just traits alone on GK.

    Case 2: You can 6 hit. You need to get 6 stp in gear. Best case suggestion (given the low end upgrades) Lose chain on tp for Spectacles (+2 acc) . Try to NI up Askar Dirs (4 dex 5 acc so 8 acc gain) use Hachiman Kote and keep fuma's. Also suggest you use a +5 acc ring. Suggestions i gave give you +10 acc gain over what you currently have with minimal cost to you and easily achievable for anyone.

    Anyways back to your question. Use sushi (acc+15%) if your concerned on acc. Use pizza anywhere else (10% acc 50 atk). With access to sea you can try to get a sea gorget as well (supposed +10 acc boost on ws +.1 pdif)

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    Quote Originally Posted by astura View Post
    Any other merits we should know like stp merits etc? This could help determine more appropriate gear suggestions based on things like 6 hit or not.
    (To 6 hit sam you need 46 stp total -25 traits -10 merits you need 11 in gear. With raja's your just left with 6 needed in gear. )
    Otherwise a small tidbit is that if you don't have more then 8% haste in gear you won't parse any noticeable difference then if you didn't have them equipped.

    Case 1: you can't 6 hit then lose all stp gear and focus on acc/haste. You'll automatically get a 7 hit with just traits alone on GK.

    Case 2: You can 6 hit. You need to get 6 stp in gear. Best case suggestion (given the low end upgrades) Lose chain on tp for Spectacles (+2 acc) . Try to NI up Askar Dirs (4 dex 5 acc so 8 acc gain) use Hachiman Kote and keep fuma's. Also suggest you use a +5 acc ring. Suggestions i gave give you +10 acc gain over what you currently have with minimal cost to you and easily achievable for anyone.

    Anyways back to your question. Use sushi (acc+15%) if your concerned on acc. Use pizza anywhere else (10% acc 50 atk). With access to sea you can try to get a sea gorget as well (supposed +10 acc boost on ws +.1 pdif)
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    If I get rid of Dusk Gloves in place of Hachiman for STP purposes will my haste be too low to matter? (8%) Also I was under the impression that Askar legs were only worn by lolsam's? =X

    One thing, as a side question that I've constantly been confused on..is sacrificing Haste for a 6 hit build worth it? Obviously it will be different when I cap STP merits and only need +6 (chiv, brutal, ecphoria take that to +3)..but I've heard both sides are good, but never which was more superior.

    And as far as ACC goes I may start eating pizza..not sure about the askar pants, but I am in sky working on Shura and Byakko too..so..we'll see how that goes..

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    Sacing a 6hit set up for a haste build is about the dumbest thing a SAM could do. As for your acc issue, do you parse? I mean parse with a parser not with your eyes. If you are at 88%+ then I think you are pretty well off.

    If you acc is lower than put on the Ohat or invest in noritsune kotes or maybe even a life belt. SAM will miss WS on just about anything under the sun however you melée acc should be near flawless. So cap out Gk skill ASAP.

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    I'm too tired to do this justice, but from a quick calc you are most at ~370 in acc, so yes you will be whiffing from time to time. I am guessing you could be as low as 60-65% in melee accuracy. (Just guessing, but seems like it would be pretty low.)

    If it were me and I had to make 1 change it would be to change to marinara pizza over meat. That will boost the melee accuracy to around 80-85% with maybe only a 5% reduction in attack. (Assuming what I last heard on the stats on the pizza.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishida View Post
    Also I was under the impression that Askar legs were only worn by lolsam's? =X
    Only if a lolsam is any sam who doesn't have Usukane or Byakkos. After those there isn't much (excluding STP options) that will beat 8Acc and 5Att outside of Barbarossa's.
    What else could you wear on your legs?

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    aces helm! (idc how bad your acc is, ohat just looks so bad lol)

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    Mamool is not particularly evasive, except NIN and THF mamool (and probably BLU too, in some extent).
    Aura Statue is considerably hard to hit for 1 hander.
    Your WS whiff is only your eyeballed result, get a parser and check it your real accuracy.

    If your WS gear is decent, you shouldn't be afraid using sushi on those camps. Attack food only accounts for melee damage and your WS have little to no improvement when you eat attack food.

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    Level-adjusted eva:

    Mamool WHM, BLM: up to 361
    Greater Colibri: Up to 367
    Mamool DRG, BST, BLU: up to 390
    Mamool NIN: up to 408
    Mamool THF: up to 466

    Warm-Up adds another +40.

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    I never actually thought to parse..I'll start doing that and see how things go.

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    Turban vs ohat depends on your current haste. Basically if your acc without ohat is greater than your haste level with turban then turban is the choice. I.e. haste spell (15% haste) turban better than ohat when ohatless acc is greater than 80%.

    Sushi should generally be avoided on 2handers for merit mobs etc since it's easy enough to get the acc to make meat work. Especially with pizza now.

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    I'm elvaan, and your gear is near identical to mine acc-wise with the following exceptions

    Tiphia -> Smart grenade (-2)
    Chiv chain -> PCA (+5)
    Life belt -> Swift belt (-7)
    Shinimusha -> Byakko's (~+12)

    So I'm sitting around only 8 more acc than you, and I never had as bad of a hit rate as you're seeming to imply, even while I was working on GKT merits. I try to sit around ~90%, and everywhere I've looked it's give or take 5% on that. I don't see you mentioned any parse results, everything you're saying is "seems", so without some actual recorded data you might just be doing better than you think. People tend to notice a whiff a lot more.

    Anyways, for high-evasion mobs (or after an evasion TP move) I just hit a macro that trades off haste for acc usually. Some changes from normal haste TP gear like Ohat, Nkotes, Life belt, Cuc mantle, etc could be an instant +35 acc which should help close the gap in exchange for slower swings, but let you still focus on meat. I want usu feet but doubt I'll ever see them, I'm sure that would help too.

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    The fact of the matter is he needs to run a parser. You cannot eyeball your acc. Just because you "feel" like you're acc is terrible does not mean you're not at 85%+.
    Furthermore, your acc will vary in different situations and you're gear/food has to adjust per these situations. Merits only diminish how often these aspects need to be considered. A simple example would be: 8/8 GK will generally mean acc gear is not needed in dynamis. But this does not apply to xarc.

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    I am going to parse tonight during dynamis and see how things go. ^^

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    After parsing in Dynamis - Beaucedine last night I parsed at 85% acc w/o food, and 87% with a pizza. So I guess that's the minimum? Not that bad? @_@

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    Damn nish, thats not bad acc. I was parsing like 40% on PLD last night

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