I haven't got a pen so...

[Septimus]

I dooon't think i got that memo no! :D

edit: (it's not insane if you know what you're doing, and it doesn't leave permanent scars!)

I was talking about the original story. It wasn't consensual, it wasn't safe, and it most certainly was not sane. It's one thing to have fantasy role play, but it is a whole different story to be victimized by a crazy person.

[Hellfury]

Ah, I misinterpreted your statement to apply to in general.
When it comes to the case in question; I suspect wether consent was given or not will be one of the disputed points in the case. I still think he might've agreed (but that it might have gotten out of hand).

[Elvis]

Clearly this guy is overreacting. All he had to do was put on a full suit of body armor after he banged her. I'd still hit it.

[MrW]

I'd still hit it.

^This. Minus the drugs and alcohol. She's probably a beast in bed.

[Septimus]

Ah, I misinterpreted your statement to apply to in general.
When it comes to the case in question; I suspect wether consent was given or not will be one of the disputed points in the case. I still think he might've agreed (but that it might have gotten out of hand).

If he was drunk off his ass and on Valium, he could not properly consent. A man could face rape charges if he had sex with a woman under those circumstances since massive inebriation would impair judgement, this is no different.

[Hellfury]

If he was drunk off his ass and on Valium, he could not properly consent. A man could face rape charges if he had sex with a woman under those circumstances since massive inebriation would impair judgement, this is no different.

I can not argue against the logic of your position, I surrender.
(But just because I'm stubborn, he COULD have agreed in advance and the valium was to kill the pain! but we'll never know!)

[Komm Suesser Tod]

I can not argue against the logic of your position, I surrender.
(But just because I'm stubborn, he COULD have agreed in advance and the valium was to kill the pain! but we'll never know!)

Even drunk, if he consented to some light knife play, I doubt he consented to being fucking branded. There is a difference between saying "Ok, a few light cuts, I guess I'll try anything once." and "Oh holy hell did Edward Scissor hands feel me the fuck up?"

One of these things is not like the other.