Blogger attacking Apathy for PW kill?

[LD]

Granted, I didn't come right out and say it, because I thought it was obvious; my point was that the retard QQer should not try and get SE to enforce the spirit of the ToS, but rather, he should get them to change the game mechanics.

That's the same fucking thing. -_-
Enforcing the spirit of the rules would immediately lead to changing game mechanics; you couldn't stop people from logging hate without retaining hate when logging. You can't expect GMs to be posted at every single HNM fight, or were you just limiting the scope to PW? Now that I think about it, I don't remember this being an issue until PW was killed. How interesting...no, wait, that other thing, stupid. Also, GJ identifying yourself as the group you're looking down on. You wouldn't suggest an alternative if you didn't believe logging hate was wrong, in which case the 'this is just arguing spirit v letter' post was just lip-service.



In my opinion, while it's very obvious SE intended us to fight every monster without having the log hate, their intentions are neither relevant or practical. Since it doesn't directly speed up the fight or change the way any particular job is played, and since it doesn't circumvent the normal limitations of the game, the question is mostly whether it's right or wrong. That's a useless argument. Even if it was 'wrong' (against the game's battle framework), that doesn't necessarily make it unacceptable (unfair), since it doesn't affect anyone other than your group. Even if it were 'right', that doesn't change the fact that most fights are usually fought all the way through, but it's not our fault SE forces us into this position.

[Zeb]

Also, GJ identifying yourself as the group you're looking down on. You wouldn't suggest an alternative if you didn't believe logging hate was wrong, in which case the 'this is just arguing spirit v letter' post was just lip-service.

Christ, you're just looking for an online argument. I never said I agreed with the guy, I just think he's wasting his time by focusing his rage at the wrong issue. Why wouldn't I suggest an alternative? This is the internet, people spout off about whatever they want.

If you read the guys post, he said he wanted SE to investigate the logs from the fight and to punish Apathy for logging out. My stance is that he's beating his head against a rock and will never get to see Apathy punished, not do I think they should be.

BUT, if he were to focus on getting a petition going for SE to change the game mechanics, he might get it changed(granted it's probably only like a 1% chance of getting it changed) in the future. An impossible fight vs a very improbable fight. Once again, I am NOT agreeing with him. I'm just saying he's fighting the wrong fight.

[Day]

your username and avatar are meant to be ironic, right?

I thought this too shue, but I was incorrect. He's pretty serious.

[LD]

Christ, you're just looking for an online argument. I never said I agreed with the guy, I just think he's wasting his time by focusing his rage at the wrong issue. Why wouldn't I suggest an alternative? This is the internet, people spout off about whatever they want.

If you read the guys post, he said he wanted SE to investigate the logs from the fight and to punish Apathy for logging out. My stance is that he's beating his head against a rock and will never get to see Apathy punished, not do I think they should be.

BUT, if he were to focus on getting a petition going for SE to change the game mechanics, he might get it changed(granted it's probably only like a 1% chance of getting it changed) in the future. An impossible fight vs a very improbable fight. Once again, I am NOT agreeing with him. I'm just saying he's fighting the wrong fight.

Why would you suggest anything if you don't care about the topic one way or another? People only say they do things for no reason when they have poor self-perspective or when they want to squirm out of something.

At any rate, by suggesting an improved way of doing something, you're advocating the action itself. If you were truly apathetic, you would have simply said his approach was wrong and left it a that, but you said essentially the same thing. "Logging hate isn't a problem, Apathy logging hate on PW is a problem." Why didn't I think that's what you meant? Oh wait, I did. It's the same shit; you're both going after Apathy instead of the 'problem' of logging hate. It's a biased mindset and you are the bigger moron for not realizing it. Worse yet, you attempt the old 'I'm better than internet conversations, so I'll make a smug remark about everyone in this topic being an idiot. I'll then explain at length my opinion on the matter, simultaneously revealing my inauthenticity and poor sense of dramatic irony.'

'Least I have the balls to assert my opinion without being a massive hypocrite by attempting to separate myself from the people I disagree with (or in this case, agree with) by calling them names then completely agreeing with them.

[Zeb]

Why would you suggest anything if you don't care about the topic one way or another? People only say they do things for no reason when they have poor self-perspective or when they want to squirm out of something.

At any rate, by suggesting an improved way of doing something, you're advocating the action itself. If you were truly apathetic, you would have simply said his approach was wrong and left it a that, but you said essentially the same thing. "Logging hate isn't a problem, Apathy logging hate on PW is a problem." Why didn't I think that's what you meant? Oh wait, I did. It's the same shit; you're both going after Apathy instead of the 'problem' of logging hate. It's a biased mindset and you are the bigger moron for not realizing it. Worse yet, you attempt the old 'I'm better than internet conversations, so I'll make a smug remark about everyone in this topic being an idiot. I'll then explain at length my opinion on the matter, simultaneously revealing my inauthenticity and poor sense of dramatic irony.'

'Least I have the balls to assert my opinion without being a massive hypocrite by attempting to separate myself from the people I disagree with (or in this case, agree with) by calling them names then completely agreeing with them.

So let me get this straight; I'm not allowed to post unless I am for or against this guy's position. Is that what you're saying? I can't just ride the middle ground and post observations? That's a shame, because I liked being impartial in a lot of debates. I'm sorry, I'll leave these topics to posters who like putting words in people's mouths and read too deeply into posts looking for motives that aren't there.

I also haven't insulted anyone or called anyone any names.

[Yugl]

So let me get this straight; I'm not allowed to post unless I am for or against this guy's position. Is that what you're saying? I can't just ride the middle ground and post observations? That's a shame, because I liked being impartial in a lot of debates. I'm sorry, I'll leave these topics to posters who like putting words in people's mouths and read too deeply into posts looking for motives that aren't there.

I also haven't insulted anyone or called anyone any names.

Haven't you heard? LD is an E-bully! Just look at his post history and you'll see that at least (1/3) posts are an attack on someone or uncalled for profanity. It's obvious he has self-perspective problems. He believes everyone is inferior and no one knows more than him. In other words, ignore the troll.

[altwight]

This guy was obviously banned from salvage dupe and he's butthurt and is trying to cause others grief. Even though he's a dumbfuck who duped in the first place.

[fusionx]

lol this guy made another post today:

And this gets us to logging hate and Pandemonium Warden. I've already addressed this in numerous comments and in several posts. It's illegal, but one of the roundtable basically put it like this: Astral Flow is a one-hit kill, and logging off is the only way possible to circumvent it.

What, you can't run like Hell at that point? Get out of its radius or bite the big one??

You see, if this is true, shut down ZNM's. All of them. Now.

[Correction]

lol this guy made another post today:

Running out of range! Now why didn't anybody else think of that?

[The Stig]

Coming soon:

A phalanx of PLDs all Ramparting.

[Septimus]

Running out of range! Now why didn't anybody else think of that?

Holy shit! Running out of range? Damn, we are all so stupid for not thinking of that ourselves! I bet he has a lot of other great advice for us.

"After people die from the Astral Flow, try to cast Raise on them so that they can fight again. I have also heard that Raise II and Raise III exist, but have never seen them in action since my highest job is 26 and I never made it past the dunes."

"If you are on an elevator that is falling, try to jump right before impact. I have heard that can save your life!"

"Ovens can be hot! Only use asbestos lined mitts when handling trays and other cookery from them."

[TheBlazed]

Serious Question.


Out of all this shit that has happened does ANYONE know of any videos to study from?
P.Warden duh

[Melios]

The amount of emorage in his blog is like watching a trainwreck.

[Xanthu]

The amount of emorage in his blog is like watching a trainwreck.

Again this is a fourty year old man emoraging.

Asura is glad he left, even though no one noticed.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjF93...eature=related

[Lordender]

all i read was "QQ, QQ, QQ, QQ, QQ,QQ, someone killed one of SE's super mobs".

Logging hate is old school, its nothing new.

[TybudX]

lol @ SE needing to shut down the game by Feb 28th for being 'unethical' and a 'sham'.

Lets see, what was the very first thing I did when I started playing way back at NA release? Oh, yeah, I took a little tour of Rabao... a place that had lag so bad from all the bot fishers that you would occasionally d/c just from trying to get near the beach. SE knew about that little problem for at least 6 months after the American release, yet did nothing about it. Nobody got banned, nobody was forced to give up their 'earnings'.

So FFXI is 'little by little' becoming a sham? Try again. SE came out the gates swinging with that shit. They never ban players in Aery. They won't touch any ground HNM, actually. They took 3 years to even start token measures against RMT... much later than the 'too little, too late' point.

Here's another one... 8 months to even attempt to stop rampant account theft. In the end, it was measures the players themselves took (hi2u firefox) that helped quell the problem. Great job thar.

I'm hinking maybe this blogger needs to step back and realize that the majority of the playerbase wouldn't give a shit about his views if they ever did hear about him, and those of us who actually respond only do so because we care enough to tell him he's an idiot.

Keep railing against the great evil's we do in this virtual world. I'm sure I'll find the time to feel guilty the next time I log out during a fight.

[Sonomaa]

lol this guy made another post today:

And this gets us to logging hate and Pandemonium Warden. I've already addressed this in numerous comments and in several posts. It's illegal, but one of the roundtable basically put it like this: Astral Flow is a one-hit kill, and logging off is the only way possible to circumvent it.

What, you can't run like Hell at that point? Get out of its radius or bite the big one??

You see, if this is true, shut down ZNM's. All of them. Now.

as far as I know, the only way to run out of range of an instant ability is to POS hack, it sounds like this guy is telling us we should use fleetool

[ghanima]

If logging out is only to leave the game why can you make multiple characters on the same account? how are you supposed to switch between them if the only reason you can log out is to leave the game?

it hurts my brain so bad thinking about this. why is anyone even reading his crappy blog?

maybe he's unhappy because he lives in riverside, CA. That place is such a hellhole. Or maybe because he has to go bst/dnc to dynamis.

[Virtuous Saint]

as far as I know, the only way to run out of range of an instant ability is to POS hack, it sounds like this guy is telling us we should use fleetool

That or he could read my post about it.

[Devek]

"If you are on an elevator that is falling, try to jump right before impact. I have heard that can save your life!"

Has anyone simply tried praying to God?