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    Merit STR or DEX!?

    I am kinda new to the game so I do not know what to put my merits into. I am 75mnk and 75thf. Should I merit STR or DEX?

    I was thinking 5/5 on DEX would be nice cause the ACC and Crits.
    ... but then again the 5/5 STR might be nice for weapons skills.

    What rings should I be using when I weapon skill on MNK. Right now I'm just using accuracy...

    I see some MNK's using Thunder Ring while they are gaining TP, is this a good idea?

    I am a Hume btw

    Any helpful reply would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devia View Post
    STR
    and acc rings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devia View Post
    STR
    qft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_T View Post
    I see some MNK's using Thunder Ring while they are gaining TP, is this a good idea?
    no

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    STR STR STR.

    Strength directly ups all damage you do. Base Damage - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

    Base damage is the sum of these following things:
    ...
    * STR - VIT Difference Function (fSTR or fSTR2)
    ...
    for THF Main, SATA + Normal hit is calculated as Base Damage = floor(D + fSTR) + Total AGI + Total DEX.
    Dex *may* put you in a new crit tier, it will add 2 or 3 acc for one-hand/dual wield, depending on current Dex.

    Sneak Attack - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

    If this ability is used by a Thief, the next strike will also receive a large boost in damage based on user's DEX. Weapon base damage will increase by 1 for every point of DEX the player has.
    So for SATA it's the exact same effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthu View Post
    STR STR STR.

    Strength directly ups all damage you do. Base Damage - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki



    Dex *may* put you in a new crit tier, it will add 2 or 3 acc for one-hand/dual wield, depending on current Dex.

    Sneak Attack - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki



    So for SATA it's the exact same effect.
    So if a THF has 100 DEX and is using a DMG 30 Dagger, SATA is like delivering a critical hit with a DMG: 130 weapon? Holy shit...

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    Yep.

    (D + fSTR + WSC) + DEX * Pdif

    Improvement in 1 DEX = improvement in 1 D.

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    STR is useful on all situations
    DEX only in merit situation with situational gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    So if a THF has 100 DEX and is using a DMG 30 Dagger, SATA is like delivering a critical hit with a DMG: 130 weapon? Holy shit...
    However if that THF has 50 STR 70 AGI and 100 DEX...

    * STR - VIT Difference Function (fSTR or fSTR2)
    ...
    for THF Main, SATA + Normal hit is calculated as Base Damage = floor(D + fSTR)Total AGI + Total DEX.
    It's like that THF has 250 DMG weapon. It's where SATA gets it's power. Regardless adding STR or adding DEX does the exact same thing here.

    100 STR 70 AGI 50 DEX 30 weapon is still 250, except that STR helps all the rest of your damage, not just a swing every 60 seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthu View Post
    However if that THF has 50 STR 70 AGI and 100 DEX...


    It's like that THF has 250 DMG weapon. It's where SATA gets it's power. Regardless adding STR or adding DEX does the exact same thing here.

    100 STR 70 AGI 50 DEX 30 weapon is still 250, except that STR helps all the rest of your damage, not just a swing every 60 seconds
    Incorrect. "When STR-VIT value is high, fSTR can be approximated by (your STR - monster VIT+4)/4"

    4 str = 1 dex on a SA. Also, who SATAs past 60?

    Edit: str is still way better, in general.

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    Also note that 1 DEX/AGI does not necessarily add as much damage as 1 D on SA/TAWS since we're talking about SA/TA :D

    The whole increase in 1 dex = increase in 1 D property is universally true in SOLO SA/TA only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Incorrect. "When STR-VIT value is high, fSTR can be approximated by (your STR - monster VIT+4)/4"

    4 str = 1 dex on a SA. Also, who SATAs past 60?

    Edit: str is still way better, in general.
    Ah-hah, yea I totally took the wiki bullet at face value, shows what I get for not clicking through.

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    merit dex, tp in acc+5/7 rings, wheeeeeeeeeeee

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    Merit Str, TP in Ulth/Rajas CAUSE FUCK THE HATAS, THIS SHIT WAS FREE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    So if a THF has 100 DEX and is using a DMG 30 Dagger, SATA is like delivering a critical hit with a DMG: 130 weapon? Holy shit...

    No, SA is like a critical hit with a DMG: 130 weapon. SATA, with 100 DEX/AGI, is more like a critical hit with a DMG: 230 weapon.

    OP: I would say merit STR. It will help your MNK a lot more than DEX will, and it will help your THF about the same either way.

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    DEX, free 2% hitrate for twohanders and a nice toy for merits if you're a mithra.

    Oh and STR does nigh nothing for MNK <_<

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    I'd go with STR just for all-around melee usefulness, but I wouldn't even consider starting in on stat merits until I'd maxed out job specific and tasty things like Crit.

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    Str merits

    I have mnk/thf/rng 75 and Ive done full str merits. Needless to say Im very happy with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    DEX, free 2% hitrate for twohanders and a nice toy for merits if you're a mithra.

    Oh and STR does nigh nothing for MNK <_<
    fStr and it's effects are exaggerated the more often you attack.

    You wanna rethink your statement?

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