Kraken RNG?

[VZX]

335 roughly equals ~59% accuracy on bird camp. You definitely want sushi

[Unstable]

Not with a COR doing ACC/Attack Rolls ^^

Also you get like an extra 35 acc from Base Dex as well.

[Howard Roark]

had this one dude in LS member's meripo at north mamools, no idea what the guy was doing wrong but he was busting out 450-550 ws's as K club RNG

dude had speed belt, K club, some blue box rings/earrings, looked good in town but he sure was doing SOMEthing wrong (can't remember if it was +1 gun or ebow, may have even been relic, as LS member's disbelief at how awful he was doing compared to his 'good gear' was pretty high)

tl:dr K club RNG got owned on the parse

[Unstable]

400? Dam i am doing 1k Sidewiders at lv 64 at 1.0 distance let alone slugshots ._. He most of sucked

[Selim]

only one person in the last 3 years! has ever tied/come close to me eve, and that was a LS amano sam, and he was sam/war with red curry on mamools, i didn't even /war and used sushi, so there's still a whole world of potential to unleash there, provided i have some sort of healing mule(or use namas spammage technique which isnt bad at all, just not as fun :E) lol.

You're still in denial, I beat you fair and square! Stop stealing my 15 minutes of fame!

As for doing 450-550 damage WS's, I can only imagine the guy didn't have proper support/wrong food for the situation or it was some odd WS here and there. Can't imagine a solid Ranger having an average WS damage like that, so maybe you were just eyeballing some flukes? I can dig up the parse of the party Matix brought up to give some data for comparison when I get home later.

[cdgreg]

Thanks for all the replies and information. One thing I'm curious about is the helpfulness of 8/8 club merits. I know the skill will still be incredibly low and most accuracywill come from gear/ food so are most kraken rngs using full club merits? I don't mind being 8/8 club and marks and then just using hellfire for normal shooting evnts if that is best. My only other jobs are blm and rdm which don't require weapon merits. I imagine club merits would help if I eventually levelled drk also?

[Unstable]

ya thats my plan 8 club 8 mark 4 shield and club will help drk zerg alot to

[Wulfgang]

ya thats my plan 8 club 8 mark 4 shield and club will help drk zerg alot to

I hope you have 75 PLD otherwise those Shield merits are a total waste. Right now I have 8 GAXE, 8 Archery, 4 Scythe; hopefully, SE will raise the combat skill cap in the next update. If not, it would probably look like 8 GAXE, 8 Club, 4 Marks; I love my WAR too much to lose the GAXE merits.

had this one dude in LS member's meripo at north mamools, no idea what the guy was doing wrong but he was busting out 450-550 ws's as K club RNG

Is this even possible? I feel like without food and NQ HF + SBs and no buff I could still break 600 every time. Someone light the VZX symbol to run the numbers!

[Unstable]

I hope you have 75 PLD otherwise those Shield merits are a total waste. Right now I have 8 GAXE, 8 Archery, 4 Scythe; hopefully, SE will raise the combat skill cap in the next update. If not, it would probably look like 8 GAXE, 8 Club, 4 Marks; I love my WAR too much to lose the GAXE merits.

Stage4 Shield atm ^_^

[Wulfgang]

What the hell? Is that avatar real?

[Tsuko_Asura]

Not with a COR doing ACC/Attack Rolls ^^

Also you get like an extra 35 acc from Base Dex as well.

Corsair's Roll, what?

[Unstable]

Corsair's Roll, what?

COR COR RNG RNG RNG RDM
You get STP Acc Attack and Exp.

Also yes its a real avatar

[Tsuko_Asura]

That's an awful setup anyone trying to use a Kraken Club. If you're having the Corsairs do any damage, its hardly ideal for them either.

[test123]

Velocity Shot WS dmg up beats the KC delay?

[cdgreg]

Lsmate is posing the argument that in dynamis a kraken rng/nin would do about the same dmg as a non KC, E-bow rng/war over the course of the run. Mainly saying the constant RA dmg building upto WS will equal the weak kraken dmg used for TP. Does anyone have parse SSs, or even parse experience with this? I know kraken rng will kick ass in merit pt, but that's not really what I'm worried about, I solo most of my merits on blm.

[Wulfgang]

One thing I'm curious about is the helpfulness of 8/8 club merits. I know the skill will still be incredibly low and most accuracywill come from gear/ food so are most kraken rngs using full club merits?

Correct me if I am wrong with my ghetto math: RNG has 200 club skill at 75, the 48 innate accuracy from traits is effectively (48 / 0.9) ~ 53 skill levels of accuracy making your accuracy roughly equivalent to the mid-250's? Still low, but looks better. Adding 16 club skill would put you close to what an A- weapon caps at: 200 + 53 + 16 = 269. So the merits would probably enable you to eat meat with a Madrigal on birds, hypothetically?

COR COR RNG RNG RNG RDM
You get STP Acc Attack and Exp.

Marches are too valuable, especially if you have a legit equip haste setup.

Lsmate is posing the argument that in dynamis a kraken rng/nin would do about the same dmg as a rng/war over the course of the run. Mainly saying the constant RA dmg building upto WS will equal the weak kraken dmg used for TP.

Argument doesn't make sense to me; comparing RNG/WAR to RNG/NIN is like comparing WAR/SAM to WAR/NIN, isolate as many variables as possible to get a true comparison; I don't have a parse but I doubt he is right.

[matix]

had this one dude in LS member's meripo at north mamools, no idea what the guy was doing wrong but he was busting out 450-550 ws's as K club RNG

dude had speed belt, K club, some blue box rings/earrings, looked good in town but he sure was doing SOMEthing wrong (can't remember if it was +1 gun or ebow, may have even been relic, as LS member's disbelief at how awful he was doing compared to his 'good gear' was pretty high)

tl:dr K club RNG got owned on the parse

that guy really must be off his rocker or something to do that.. i don't think my lowest ws even did that much, maybe if i used a namas arrow on a skoffin when all the buffs were off it'd do something like that, but side, pssh

i also got data from that pt selim was talking about, my ws avg was 1235.09 using sushi, believe we had chaos, minx2 for atk buffs

Lsmate is posing the argument that in dynamis a kraken rng/nin would do about the same dmg as a rng/war over the course of the run. Mainly saying the constant RA dmg building upto WS will equal the weak kraken dmg used for TP. Does anyone have parse SSs, or even parse experience with this? I know kraken rng will kick ass in merit pt, but that's not really what I'm worried about, I solo most of my merits on blm.

so go KC rng/war to dynamis? the end? and if ure getting haste/march, rng/war shotting is gunna have a hard time comparing at all ;e, especially in dynamis where you will often start shooting, but the mob die before the shot fires, losing dmg

[rog]

Velocity Shot WS dmg up beats the KC delay?

VS-> ws -> cancel VS.

[Selim]

Data is all over the place in the html, but hope you can find some useful infos there anyways. I didn't filter anything in the party so the data should be complete and accurate - only counters seem to be missing for some reason, not sure if that's a directparse issue or not, but it's not really relevant anyways:
http://66.221.121.71/selim/parses/MatixSel.html

I killed a couple of mobs before we started so the overall damage isn't 100% accurate, was probably even. Songs were March/March/Min/Min - we started off with Drk/War Rolls, but since it slows down Kraken we switched to Drk/Sam and eventually Drk/Cor Rolls.

Lowest Rng WS in the parse was 817 - given we were buffed through the roof I still don't see a solid ranger doing anywhere near 500 damage on a regular basis.

Hope it helps!

[Jakson]

I really can't see a better setup than this, though obviously until PW is regularly killable, the haramaki isn't really a viable option.

Spoiler: show

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...nty/rngdrg.jpg

This puts you at like 367 acc. if you're elvaan and no dex merits but with 8/8 club. Replace Haramaki with Skadi's and Annihilator with Culverin +1 if you're never going to Barrage, Anni+Silver otherwise, right? I don't know how to get this much or more haste in gear while /WAR, and I don't really know the math to see if Berserk is going to outweigh 6% haste and jumps, not to mention that DA from /WAR supposedly lowers KCs dps.